How Bernie Sanders would transform the nation

Red1966

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People will vote for her because the other options are worse

I just read a poll recently that said 85% of republicans would vote for George W. Bush as president again if they could, so that leads me to believe the kinds of republicans who voted in this poll are incapable of objective reasoning. We saw the same thing last presidential election cycle here on RIU, conservatives straight up denied the polling data before the results were in.

Some did, most did not.
Same thing with climate change,
Climate change has been happening for 4.5 billion years, whether man has affected that has not been proven, but anyone not kowtowing to the pogrom is crucified.
same thing with racism, same thing with sexism and income inequality... you guys simply don't believe these things exist because of the media you consume and political ideology.

Nobody has claimed those things don't exist.

Then when the objective hand of reason comes in and proves you wrong a la Kim Davis, the Pope siding with climate change and against crony capitalism and income and wealth inequality, the expected new speaker of the house accidentally outing the republican party for politicizing the investigation into Benghazi,

He said dropping her poll numbers was an accomplishment, not that it was the reason it was done.
et al, you denounce judges on the Supreme Court as "activist" and say shit like "the Pope shouldn't talk about science" - even though he's perfectly qualified holding a degree in chemistry.
Haven't you repeatedly said the Pope, and all religious leaders are charlatans?
Sound familiar? You cherry pick what you want to accept and deny and discard what you don't like. None of it is objective, and that's why the republicans will lose another chance at the white house in 2016.
Familiar? Yes. See it all the time. All parties, all religions, all theologies. Things were no different before any election, yet somebody always gets elected. Lack of objectivity hasn't determined any election.

 

Red1966

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I thought they were trying to turn you into an intelligent and compassionate human being.
By repeatedly calling me a racist, bigot, murderer, child molester, etc.? I'm already an intelligent and compassionate human being. Their acts prove they aren't.
 
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Red1966

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Yet you haven't, and it clearly was a typo since I know what a pogrom is and pointed out how he misused it. Oh look, another Red logical failure.
Just because you refuse to acknowledge it doesn't mean it didn't happen. You thought you knew what a "progrom" was, but that term doesn't exist. Oh look, another pnwmystery denial of reality.
 

pnwmystery

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Same thing with climate change,
Climate change has been happening for 4.5 billion years, whether man has affected that has not been proven, but anyone not kowtowing to the pogrom is crucified.
I think the word you're looking for is program, as a pogrom is an organized massacre of a certain ethnic group historically targeted against the jews in Russia and Eastern Europe.

Mwahahahaha.
 

Red1966

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as opposed to them taking it seriously on borrowed money? i'd rather give free tuition to those that want the education than watch a bunch of kids inflate another debt bubble that will really fuck the economy up
Giving them "free" education doesn't inflate the debt bubble? Let those who receive the benefit pay for it. Free tuition means much of it is wasted, just like any other commodity. But somebody still has to pay for that "free" education. As more government largess has flooded the education market, tuition costs have soared, while an ever greater number of students major in worthless studies like Looting as Political Activism 101.
If you want to give a "free" education, do so. But don't demand somebody else pay for it. Being generous with others money isn't a virtue.
 

Red1966

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questionable? delivering aids medication at no cost to sick children in 3rd world countries questionable?

stick to your austin-bubble platitudes afterall, texas is very lenient when it comes to growing and smoking pot:

It ain't ignorance that causes so much trouble; it's folks knowing so much that ain't so. ~uncle ben
The Haitians have been complaining the money the Foundation claims to have been donated to them has all ended up in the hands of Clinton supporters and has actually prevented them getting help. Hiring her political supporters as employees for the foundation where they still just support her political career and do nothing for charity does make one question that the Clinton Foundation is more of a slush fund than a charity.
 

Red1966

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the pentagon budget would be a great start. the next thing would be to take a look at the top heavy administrations as well as their fucked up tuition raises every fucking year.

how about a 10% tax on gross profits to every corp that offshores jobs or hides their corp presence offshore to avoid taxes.

how about a 10% tax on gross profits for all wall st firms. after all, they came within a cunthair of destroying the economy and got paid for it.
A 10% tax on gross profits may be more than the net profit. I doubt someone who doesn't know what "gross profit" is is qualified to determine tax structure.
 

ChesusRice

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The Haitians have been complaining the money the Foundation claims to have been donated to them has all ended up in the hands of Clinton supporters and has actually prevented them getting help. Hiring her political supporters as employees for the foundation where they still just support her political career and do nothing for charity does make one question that the Clinton Foundation is more of a slush fund than a charity.
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/
 

pnwmystery

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Giving them "free" education doesn't inflate the debt bubble? Let those who receive the benefit pay for it. Free tuition means much of it is wasted, just like any other commodity. But somebody still has to pay for that "free" education. As more government largess has flooded the education market, tuition costs have soared, while an ever greater number of students major in worthless studies like Looting as Political Activism 101.
If you want to give a "free" education, do so. But don't demand somebody else pay for it. Being generous with others money isn't a virtue.
Have any sources on this? Because tuition costs and "government largess flooding the education market," don't really coincide. Tuition costs would go lower because the government would be providing more grants and federal aid unless somehow "high tuition high aid" legislation got passed without anyone knowing about it. Then again could be just your state.

The Haitians have been complaining the money the Foundation claims to have been donated to them has all ended up in the hands of Clinton supporters and has actually prevented them getting help. Hiring her political supporters as employees for the foundation where they still just support her political career and do nothing for charity does make one question that the Clinton Foundation is more of a slush fund than a charity.
Any credible sources?
 

Red1966

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Red1966

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Have any sources on this? Because tuition costs and "government largess flooding the education market," don't really coincide. Tuition costs would go lower because the government would be providing more grants and federal aid unless somehow "high tuition high aid" legislation got passed without anyone knowing about it. Then again could be just your state.



Any credible sources?
Tuition costs have skyrocketed since education loans have increased. How can you claim giving more money to schools doesn't result in more money going to schools?
Just Google "rising tuition costs+ education grants/loans. Pick which sources you accept as creditable.
 

Red1966

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it's simple..really..and everyone knows this:

the wealthy need to pay taxes in proportion to wealth and we will have plenty of tax dollars..shifting the burden on to the middle and lower class taxpayer doesn't work..there is no trickle down, the job creators suck in their wealth much like your balls when hitting cold water (you know the feeling:wink:) in an unstable economy that they themselves created.

oh! and boys? do we really need all that ammo? uh buh-bye, halliburton!

time to pay up suckers! - @nitro harley

:lol:
"the wealthy need to pay taxes in proportion to wealth" So you're now against the progressive tax structure we now have and want to reduce taxes on the wealthy and increase taxes on the poor? No trickle down? So you work for people that are poorer than you? (Oops, forgot that you don't work) Wealth is not taxed at the Federal level, just income. Wealth is taxed at the State level. But only some of it. Cash isn't taxed at all.
Do we really need all that ammo? Maybe, maybe not. But not having it if we do need it means death. Not having a performing arts center won't kill us.
Uh, what do you know about the feeling when your balls hit the cold water? I always suspected you were a dude pretending to be female.
 
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