woody333333
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a mexican shot a black dude..............happens every day
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a mexican shot a black dude..............happens every day
Doer
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It does. That fact that Zim turns out the be a Mulatto matters not. Trevon thought he was a "creepy ass cracker." So, the race stuff is white bread on dirt as far a Sanford is concerned.
Now to me, have been thigh deep in the pink black crack, and had the black bucks backing my play in Jr Hig,h in Panama City, FL; I know this mean he was worried about gay trolling on a dark night.
Creepy ass. There are all kinds of crackers but creepy ass means only one thing to black boys. Homosexual kidnap.
desert dude
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Well, nice to see the discussion is still on track! 
Buck, what do you think of Serino's treason to the cause? I just can't wrap my head around it.
Buck, what do you think of Serino's treason to the cause? I just can't wrap my head around it.
Antidisestablishmentarian
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At first he was very much in the Serino is a piece of shit crowd.
Then Serino was the man.
I think he is back to his first opinion.
Then Serino was the man.
I think he is back to his first opinion.
desert dude
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Prosecutor has his hands full trying to discredit his own witnesses, LOL.
"A prosecutor in George Zimmerman's murder trial on Tuesday tried to pick apart the statements of a Sanford Police detective who had been called as a prosecution witness a day before but gave testimony that seemed to benefit the defense.
Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda began by asking the judge to strike from the record a statement Detective Chris Serino made Monday in which he said he found credible Zimmerman's account of how he got into a fight with Trayvon Martin. De la Rionda argued the statement was improper because one witness isn't allowed to give an opinion on the credibility of another witness. Defense attorney Mark O'Mara argued it was proper because Serino was vetting Zimmerman's veracity in his probe.
Judge Debra Nelson told jurors to disregard the statement.
"This is an improper comment," the judge said."
http://news.yahoo.com/judge-strikes-detective-statements-zimmerman-133901090.html
"A prosecutor in George Zimmerman's murder trial on Tuesday tried to pick apart the statements of a Sanford Police detective who had been called as a prosecution witness a day before but gave testimony that seemed to benefit the defense.
Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda began by asking the judge to strike from the record a statement Detective Chris Serino made Monday in which he said he found credible Zimmerman's account of how he got into a fight with Trayvon Martin. De la Rionda argued the statement was improper because one witness isn't allowed to give an opinion on the credibility of another witness. Defense attorney Mark O'Mara argued it was proper because Serino was vetting Zimmerman's veracity in his probe.
Judge Debra Nelson told jurors to disregard the statement.
"This is an improper comment," the judge said."
http://news.yahoo.com/judge-strikes-detective-statements-zimmerman-133901090.html
Antidisestablishmentarian
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How the hell is the lead investigator a witness?
I thought part of his job would be to determine if the suspect is lying or not....
my opinion:
either the prosecution is playing the rope-a-dope and has something extra juicy we have not heard about, or the prosecution is trying to get the case dismissed.
I thought part of his job would be to determine if the suspect is lying or not....
my opinion:
either the prosecution is playing the rope-a-dope and has something extra juicy we have not heard about, or the prosecution is trying to get the case dismissed.
desert dude
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Yeah, I thought it was the investigator's job to form an opinion about the truthfulness of Zimmerman. What else is Serino supposed to testify to? To classify Serino as a witness seems absurd. He didn't witness anything, he investigated the supposed crime.
Impman
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http://www.wptv.com/generic/news/national/George-Zimmerman-trial-complete-coverage
for those just tuning in
for those just tuning in
Impman
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The prosecutor is trying to base everything on the struggle itself. he is going to tie inconsistencies together. Not that there really are any. Its the throw everything at the wall and see what sticks strategy.
Doer
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Yeah, now the prosecutor is smiling like the cat. Where is that canary, anyway? Is this not hearsay?
I don't get it. But, there is another descrepency. Zim changed the story again in his story to his friend. So what? Little details about grabbing the gun.
BUT> hands under the body?? That is how he was found by the paramedics, correct?
But, all thru Zim's story is the "consciousness of guilt" stuff like he is bolstering his story...(a technical term) about Z thought Trevon has a weapon of some kind.
"Hitting me with something in his hand..." Right after he shot him he said, "So I jump on his back and he was face down and I held his wrists out to the side."
And why do you keep smiling at your "hostile witness?" It is their county.
Is this not hearsay?I don't get it. But, there is another descrepency. Zim changed the story again in his story to his friend. So what? Little details about grabbing the gun.
BUT> hands under the body?? That is how he was found by the paramedics, correct?
But, all thru Zim's story is the "consciousness of guilt" stuff like he is bolstering his story...(a technical term) about Z thought Trevon has a weapon of some kind.
"Hitting me with something in his hand..." Right after he shot him he said, "So I jump on his back and he was face down and I held his wrists out to the side."
And why do you keep smiling at your "hostile witness?" It is their county.
Impman
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The jury is coming back with not guilty on this one in less than 2 hours. his arms were under his body because of muscle twitch reflex. I was a butcher for a few years, I have seen cows and pigs muscles twitch for up to 45 minutes. Pigs will actually flop around for a half hour before finally settling. Then there is rigamortis .
"Mr. Serino later told the F.B.I. that he had been pressured to make an arrest. He told the federal agents that he did not think there was enough evidence for a manslaughter charge. High-ranking officials in the Sanford Police Department and the original state attorney in the case agreed: they decided not to arrest or charge Mr. Zimmerman in February and March because they felt they lacked enough evidence to rebut self-defense."
If only it would have been a white person instead of mexican they would have had stronger case.
If only it would have been a white person instead of mexican they would have had stronger case.
desert dude
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It seems to me that the defense attorney could ask Serino on cross examination, "why was George Zimmerman not charged with murder 2 the day of the shooting". Serino's response would (presumably) be what is stated above, minus the FBI part...
SirGreenThumb
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I enjoyed Serino testifying at he very end. He was asked " with all the pathological lying stuff aside, do you believe that Zimmerman was telling the truth about that night?" Serino-Yes.
Not guilty!.
SirGreenThumb
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Oh, and what about the judge basically making it where the defense couldn't really make it sound as if he wasn't guilty yet. What the fuck is that about? Do they need to be in court for a certain amount of time before the not guilty verdict??
SirGreenThumb
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I know what you mean, I'm an avid hunter and rule of thumb is to wait at least a half hour before going and checking on your game. I mean, I have had deer drop within 5 feet dead, but I still wait. Be kinda funny if I didn't though, walk up to the deer, fucker twitches and I pull my sidearm and put one in its head.
Edit: 2 and half more months till bow season opens. Yippy!
I may even picture them wearing a hoodie.
desert dude
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Another very simple explanation about why Martin's arms were under his body that he was still alive when Z got off of him and he curled his arms under himself and then died.
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