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UncleBuck

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Yeah Bucky, I DO have a problem with gays in PUBLIC life, being championed as heroes...but I'm fine with what they do in the privacy of their own homes and beds...that's none of my business, and I have no problem with them having the same insurance benefits as heterosexuals...

And I DO have a problem with radical Muslims in America...and after 9/11...I'm sure I'm not alone...

And I do think Obama is polarizing...I do...

And I don't apologize for any of that...
you also thought reagan won 90% of the popular vote.

conclusive evidence that you are a moron.
 

AlabamaRedneck

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So is anyone making a poll about what the results may be?Guilty/Not Guilty,Riot's?I don't get riot's out here in the woods.
We need a separate thread for that, so the replies don't get lost in mine and Buck's many rebuttal posts...why don't you start a new thread entitled "Zim Trial Verdict Predictions"?
 

AlabamaRedneck

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you also thought reagan won 90% of the popular vote.

conclusive evidence that you are a moron.
Yeah, well, I said my post was "Shooting from the Hip"...maybe I was wrong about the election numbers, but I was not wrong that Reagan was widely respected by both Dems and Reps...ask your parents...
 

spandy

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Yeah, well, I said my post was "Shooting from the Hip"...maybe I was wrong about the election numbers, but I was not wrong that Reagan was widely respected by both Dems and Reps...ask your parents...
iran/contra, amnesty to millions, tripled national debt, ......no, im gonna stop there cause there is just too much and im too tired to talk about another puppet president.
 

Padawanbater2

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iran/contra, amnesty to millions, tripled national debt, ......no, im gonna stop there cause there is just too much and im too tired to talk about another puppet president.
I have disagreed with 100% of your posts, this is the first post I will 'like', fuck the US presidency and anyone who holds the position
 

Doer

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I have disagreed with 100% of your posts, this is the first post I will 'like', fuck the US presidency and anyone who holds the position
Well that is what happens. Why don't you run for office and see how good the fucking gets, in every way? :)
 

Someacdude

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Poor George is really screwed , talk about jury tampering , add this to Barrys treason charges.

Im pretty sure with bo in in white house Zimmerman could have the whole thing on tape showing crayon trying to kill him and he would still get 10 years.
 

Doer

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Some good, big-money DA autoloaders, such as the Sig-Sauer P226 i once had, don't have external safeties either. cn
There are 4 safety features, and #1 is for all guns.

No round in the chamber and hammer down.
Next is hammer down on a live round.
Then cocked and locked with the safe switch engaged.

For my 1911 Colt Commander, there is the left side thumb safety, the hammer position, and the integral grip safety.

So, if he didn't have the hammer back, he didn't say so. And so the fool was carrying to shoot his ass off.

I imagine, but it was never questioned, that Zim had the hammer down on a round and cocked the weapon to shoot.

He just lied in omission there, again, I think. Of course, the facts show he is quite the fool....
 

desert dude

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There are 4 safety features, and #1 is for all guns.

No round in the chamber and hammer down.
Next is hammer down on a live round.
Then cocked and locked with the safe switch engaged.

For my 1911 Colt Commander, there is the left side thumb safety, the hammer position, and the integral grip safety.

So, if he didn't have the hammer back, he didn't say so. And so the fool was carrying to shoot his ass off.

I imagine, but it was never questioned, that Zim had the hammer down on a round and cocked the weapon to shoot.

He just lied in omission there, again, I think. Of course, the facts show he is quite the fool....
Me thinks the fool in this post is not Zimmerman. The Keltec has NO EXTERNAL HAMMER. Zim could not have had the hammer down, or up, or in between. The Keltec is a full double action. You pull the trigger, and as you do the internal hammer is lifted until it trips at its extreme extension and then the gun goes bang.

It's really very technical and complicated and probably requires 16 hours of training to fully understand the process, so don't feel bad that this is all going over your head.
 

Doer

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Me thinks the fool in this post is not Zimmerman. The Keltec has NO EXTERNAL HAMMER. Zim could not have had the hammer down, or up, or in between. The Keltec is a full double action. You pull the trigger, and as you do the internal hammer is lifted until it trips at its extreme extension and then the gun goes bang.

It's really very technical and complicated and probably requires 16 hours of training to fully understand the process, so don't feel bad that this is all going over your head.
Ah, a self serving, self sucker.....flexible back. Did I say the rinking dink had a hammer? HELL NO. But, Zim said Martin grabbed the gun behind the hammer.

Go back and read after your constipation has passed. I was taking about gun safety mechs. I said if he had a hammerless weapon with no safety and the rocket in the pocket, stuffed inside his pants he is indeed the bigger fool.

Who does that?

And why was he not questioned about it?

George, come clean. You racked a round and re-holstered before you went down there. Admit IT!

Goes to intent and 2nd degree.

This is a weird enough trial without the tarbabies.
 

desert dude

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Ah, a self serving, self sucker.....flexible back. Did I say the rinking dink had a hammer? HELL NO. But, Zim said Martin grabbed the gun behind the hammer.

Go back and read after your constipation has passed. I was taking about gun safety mechs. I said if he had a hammerless weapon with no safety and the rocket in the pocket, stuffed inside his pants he is indeed the bigger fool.

Who does that?

And why was he not questioned about it?

George, come clean. You racked a round and re-holstered before you went down there. Admit IT!

Goes to intent and 2nd degree.

This is a weird enough trial without the tarbabies.
I will take your word for it. I am never really sure what you just said. I suspect I am talking to spambot.
 

SirGreenThumb

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George, come clean. You racked a round and re-holstered before you went down there. Admit IT!
Even if he did this, it doesn't mean anything, except maybe he was concerned for his safety after he lost sight of a suspicious person. Hell, I would have done it to, if I didn't already have it racked and ready to fire.
 

desert dude

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Ah, a self serving, self sucker.....flexible back. Did I say the rinking dink had a hammer? HELL NO. But, Zim said Martin grabbed the gun behind the hammer.

Go back and read after your constipation has passed. I was taking about gun safety mechs. I said if he had a hammerless weapon with no safety and the rocket in the pocket, stuffed inside his pants he is indeed the bigger fool.

Who does that?

And why was he not questioned about it?

George, come clean. You racked a round and re-holstered before you went down there. Admit IT!

Goes to intent and 2nd degree.

This is a weird enough trial without the tarbabies.
A better question would be: what fool carries an unloaded gun, and for what purpose?

An unloaded gun is just a very poor club, you would be much better off just carrying a ball-peen hammer than an unloaded gun.
 

Doer

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I have to look this stuff up to get any facts. The PF-9 has 3 safes.

1) hammer block

[video=youtube_share;yIDoUu8lDGU]http://youtu.be/yIDoUu8lDGU[/video]

2) very long trigger pull

3) stock pull is 5#...wow

So, being a double action it lifts the hammer, (all guns have hammers,) and drops it with a single long hard, pull of the trigger.

It is like my double action S&W revolver but can't be hand cocked. I don't don't carry that with 6 rounds. I have only 5 in and the hammer down on an empty. It has a solid firing pin, unlike the 1911.

The PF-9 is not hammerless, it is without an external hammer spur. And it falls into a hammer block. Now this block is not enabled until the trigger is pulled.
 

Doer

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A better question would be: what fool carries an unloaded gun, and for what purpose?

An unloaded gun is just a very poor club, you would be much better off just carrying a ball-peen hammer than an unloaded gun.
I would never take you sailing.

Did I say turn the sail boat around? Did I say unload the weapon? Dong.
 

echelon1k1

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Ah, a self serving, self sucker.....flexible back. Did I say the rinking dink had a hammer? HELL NO. But, Zim said Martin grabbed the gun behind the hammer.

Go back and read after your constipation has passed. I was taking about gun safety mechs. I said if he had a hammerless weapon with no safety and the rocket in the pocket, stuffed inside his pants he is indeed the bigger fool.

Who does that?

And why was he not questioned about it?

George, come clean. You racked a round and re-holstered before you went down there. Admit IT!

Goes to intent and 2nd degree.

This is a weird enough trial without the tarbabies.
Mark Osterman, Zimmerman’s best friend and the author of a book defending him, testified Tuesday that Zimmerman told him on the night of the shooting that Trayvon briefly grabbed his gun as the two wrestled on the ground. Mr. Osterman said Zimmerman said to him, “somehow I broke his grip on the gun when guy grabbed between the grip and the hammer.”
IMO, It's consistent with how a layman would describe a pistol without an exposed hammer...

Even if he chambered a round, so what? it's works for either side, for the defence it serves in reinforcing he was scared, for the prosecution it serves to prove intent... Either way not damning in and of itself...
 
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