peterstoke
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if it was me i would keep her going back under the light with no more trimming and let her grow some more
Will those survive
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Boatguy
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I would wait till those two new tops grow a couple nodes and then top again.
And they look good
giantcola
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they look really goooood do 
if they were mine, i'll just wait for these side branches to grow taller and start bending them to the sides, maybe as well as the main stem. you don't need FIMing, topping or mainlining to get a perfectly flat and horizontal canopy, you just need LST and supercropping. Of course if one top is dominant or gets too tall you can top it, but the girl will need couple days to recover from the shock, and with LST this doesn't happen. Instead, by manipulating you get WAAAAY thicker stems and knuckles on the branches. My biggest plant stock is like 6-7 centimeters ( 2.5") in DIAMETER and i can't touch my fingers when grabbing it
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if they were mine, i'll just wait for these side branches to grow taller and start bending them to the sides, maybe as well as the main stem. you don't need FIMing, topping or mainlining to get a perfectly flat and horizontal canopy, you just need LST and supercropping. Of course if one top is dominant or gets too tall you can top it, but the girl will need couple days to recover from the shock, and with LST this doesn't happen. Instead, by manipulating you get WAAAAY thicker stems and knuckles on the branches. My biggest plant stock is like 6-7 centimeters ( 2.5") in DIAMETER and i can't touch my fingers when grabbing it
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ilovereggae
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I know you are already making progress, but this kind of thing happens a lot in terms of new growers being too aggressive with training.
Fwiw, I think its good to try to grow one or two rounds without worrying about topping or training or defoliation. Those are all advanced techniques to maximize yield and I think it just adds to the complexity for someone just learning a new skill. Thats like step 50. Start with the basics.
I would suggest that you just grow the plant natural at least once so you see how it normally behaves, and you know how to properly care for ir. This will help inform you when you are ready to try more advanced stuff.
Personally I still grow a new strain out normal at least once so I know how I want to approach topping etc. What works for one strain might not work for another
Take your time.
Fwiw, I think its good to try to grow one or two rounds without worrying about topping or training or defoliation. Those are all advanced techniques to maximize yield and I think it just adds to the complexity for someone just learning a new skill. Thats like step 50. Start with the basics.
I would suggest that you just grow the plant natural at least once so you see how it normally behaves, and you know how to properly care for ir. This will help inform you when you are ready to try more advanced stuff.
Personally I still grow a new strain out normal at least once so I know how I want to approach topping etc. What works for one strain might not work for another
Take your time.
That is thick dude..wow..btw..thanks for pointing me to Pigeon420, I watched lots of his videos and subscribed and boy lots of good stuff and info.they look really goooood do
if they were mine, i'll just wait for these side branches to grow taller and start bending them to the sides, maybe as well as the main stem. you don't need FIMing, topping or mainlining to get a perfectly flat and horizontal canopy, you just need LST and supercropping. Of course if one top is dominant or gets too tall you can top it, but the girl will need couple days to recover from the shock, and with LST this doesn't happen. Instead, by manipulating you get WAAAAY thicker stems and knuckles on the branches. My biggest plant stock is like 6-7 centimeters ( 2.5") in DIAMETER and i can't touch my fingers when grabbing it
Thanks again for all the help @giantcola
@ilovereggae thank you for pointing this out. This is exactly what my wife says to me daily and I just cannot help stop fudging with the plants lol. But dully noted, i will couple untouched to see what comes out of em. Thanks for confirming my wife's tip man
Now I will grow more ears to her LOL.Hi again folks, I posted a question for those plants in another thread, probably i should have asked in this one and close the other one.
@giantcola @ilovereggae @Boatguy, I need your expert eyes one "hopefully" last time
My wife put those girls yesterday for the whole day outside to acclimate. I have putting them in the shade for couple of hours every day for the past couple of days (firstday 2hrs, second 3hrs). Yesterday was partly cloudy so sun wasn't that strong at all and we were debating and she insisted it is fine, so plants were left the whole day outside to harden them. I felt it was too much and i think I was right :/
Today am noticing yellowish baby leaves in all of them as you can see in the pic. is this the shock from yesterday? will they be fine? should i keep put them outside again to continue hardening or back off and put them back in the shade for couple of hours instead rather than sunny spot?
Thanks again everyone.
@giantcola @ilovereggae @Boatguy, I need your expert eyes one "hopefully" last time
My wife put those girls yesterday for the whole day outside to acclimate. I have putting them in the shade for couple of hours every day for the past couple of days (firstday 2hrs, second 3hrs). Yesterday was partly cloudy so sun wasn't that strong at all and we were debating and she insisted it is fine, so plants were left the whole day outside to harden them. I felt it was too much and i think I was right :/
Today am noticing yellowish baby leaves in all of them as you can see in the pic. is this the shock from yesterday? will they be fine? should i keep put them outside again to continue hardening or back off and put them back in the shade for couple of hours instead rather than sunny spot?
Thanks again everyone.
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giantcola
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HI bro, no problem feel free to ask whenever you want so.
I feel like all you are doing is right, this looks pretty much like a nutrient or ph issue.
Plant is deficient, it looks like iron/calcium deficiency.
Surely one or more immobile nutrient is not uptakin,you can tell that because tops are yellowing and bottom fan leaves remain green.
Remember me what you are doing please, are you in soil?
Did the soil contain any nutrient by its own? Did you feed already?
Which ph is the water you are giving her and how ofter you water? Maybe it will be helpful to know the day and night temps in you area in this season
I feel like all you are doing is right, this looks pretty much like a nutrient or ph issue.
Plant is deficient, it looks like iron/calcium deficiency.
Surely one or more immobile nutrient is not uptakin,you can tell that because tops are yellowing and bottom fan leaves remain green.
Remember me what you are doing please, are you in soil?
Did the soil contain any nutrient by its own? Did you feed already?
Which ph is the water you are giving her and how ofter you water? Maybe it will be helpful to know the day and night temps in you area in this season
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OOOpss...did i fry them already
? @Boatguy you mean i lost them now for good? or there is still a chance and i just need to take it easy on them?
@giantcola 
i know bro..thank you so much for confirming this. I wll take it easy and slower.
Thanks again folks for helping the blind
i know bro..thank you so much for confirming this. I wll take it easy and slower.Thanks again folks for helping the blind
Boatguy
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It takes a few days for the damage to become apparent.OOOpss...did i fry them already
they will probably be fine aside from some damaged leaves. New growth will take over
JoeBlow5823
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They are getting big, going to have to get used to the sun sooner than later.
Hi again old hands @Boatguy @giantcola @ilovereggae @JoeBlow5823 ,
I've now moved the ladies outside in smart pots.
The Northern Lights with cupping/canoeing leaves, got this from the heat stress i incurred on it when i was putting outside. Should I rid of those tops and give chance to new branches to grow or just leave it and it new grow should get fixed on its own?
The Bluedream has been ever showing those yellow leaves since it was a sprout. I guessed it was a iron/cal/mag deficiency and started foliage feeding it last night and i can tell they are slowly getting tiny bit darker green? I also noticed a tiny purple in the heart of the new tiny top as you can see in the pic. I really dunno what should i do next? they are all now in smart pots outside in nature, treated with cal/mag foliage spray. I have also stopped feeding them this week since the new soil has sheep manure so i don't wanna give them an overdose of food or intoxicate them.
I always use 6 pH water or rain.
Thank you folks for your help again and again
@Boatguy @giantcola @ilovereggae @JoeBlow5823 ,I've now moved the ladies outside in smart pots.
The Northern Lights with cupping/canoeing leaves, got this from the heat stress i incurred on it when i was putting outside. Should I rid of those tops and give chance to new branches to grow or just leave it and it new grow should get fixed on its own?
The Bluedream has been ever showing those yellow leaves since it was a sprout. I guessed it was a iron/cal/mag deficiency and started foliage feeding it last night and i can tell they are slowly getting tiny bit darker green? I also noticed a tiny purple in the heart of the new tiny top as you can see in the pic. I really dunno what should i do next? they are all now in smart pots outside in nature, treated with cal/mag foliage spray. I have also stopped feeding them this week since the new soil has sheep manure so i don't wanna give them an overdose of food or intoxicate them.
I always use 6 pH water or rain.
Thank you folks for your help again and again
ilovereggae
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Oof those are looking a little rough. Definitely dont cut it off, something is just off with your nutrient uptake. Im not familiar with using sheep manure as food. Did you buy a soil that has that mixed in, or did you just add some to your base soil? Im thinking that it maybe just isnt available to the plant yet bc its not broken down enough? Not 100% sure though.Hi again old hands
I've now moved the ladies outside in smart pots.
The Northern Lights with cupping/canoeing leaves, got this from the heat stress i incurred on it when i was putting outside. Should I rid of those tops and give chance to new branches to grow or just leave it and it new grow should get fixed on its own?
The Bluedream has been ever showing those yellow leaves since it was a sprout. I guessed it was a iron/cal/mag deficiency and started foliage feeding it last night and i can tell they are slowly getting tiny bit darker green? I also noticed a tiny purple in the heart of the new tiny top as you can see in the pic. I really dunno what should i do next? they are all now in smart pots outside in nature, treated with cal/mag foliage spray. I have also stopped feeding them this week since the new soil has sheep manure so i don't wanna give them an overdose of food or intoxicate them.
I always use 6 pH water or rain.
Thank you folks for your help again and again
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Im gonna let someone else advise best way to green those back up. Ive used kelp foliar feed in the past to regreen stuff quick, but now I just try to ammend/top dress and then if i see light growth like that I use some liquid roots organics nutes to give a quick feed. But usually that isnt an issue in veg.
@ilovereggae
I use this Miracle Grow Moisture Control and I added Sheep manure myself to it, 5:1 ratio.
I also was feeding using proper pH and for food, i used fox farm Grow Big and Big Bloom.
This particular plant has been like this since day one, very pale green and slow growth, but I noticed when i moved it to the smart pot yesterday it had grown up over night noticably. I am just trying to do different things now and watch results. least something works.
I use this Miracle Grow Moisture Control and I added Sheep manure myself to it, 5:1 ratio.
I also was feeding using proper pH and for food, i used fox farm Grow Big and Big Bloom.
This particular plant has been like this since day one, very pale green and slow growth, but I noticed when i moved it to the smart pot yesterday it had grown up over night noticably. I am just trying to do different things now and watch results. least something works.