WHO WROTE THE BIBLE AND IS IT TRUE

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ghostdriver

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Ceepea said:
Wrong. The new testament was written DECADES to CENTURIES after Jesus died. No one that wrote the bible ever met Jesus.



The option isn't there is god knows you will not choose him. If god knows you won't choose him, you have no option.
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No one ever met Jesus who wrote the HOLY BIBLE?
Two of the gospel biographies were written by the apostles Matthew and John, men who knew Jesus personally and traveled with him for over three years. The other two books were written by Mark and Luke, close associates of the apostles. These writers had direct access to the facts they were recording. The early church accepted the four gospels because they agreed with what was already common knowledge about Jesus' life.
 
Ceepea

Ceepea

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ghostdriver said:
No one ever met Jesus who wrote the HOLY BIBLE?
Two of the gospel biographies were written by the apostles Matthew and John, men who knew Jesus personally and traveled with him for over three years. The other two books were written by Mark and Luke, close associates of the apostles. These writers had direct access to the facts they were recording. The early church accepted the four gospels because they agreed with what was already common knowledge about Jesus' life.
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Most scholars believe that Mark was written around or shortly after the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Second Temple in year 70.

According to the majority viewpoint, this gospel is unlikely to have been written by an eyewitness.[68] While Papias reported that Matthew had written the "Logia," this can hardly be a reference to the Gospel of Matthew.[68] The author was probably a Jewish Christian writing for other Jewish Christians.[69]

Biblical scholars generally hold that Matthew was composed between the years c. 70 and 100.[70][71][72][73]

The Gospel of Luke and the Acts of the Apostles were both written by the same author.[80] The most direct evidence comes from the prefaces of each book. Both prefaces were addressed to Theophilus, and Acts of the Apostles (1:1-2) says in reference to the Gospel of Luke, "In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and teach until the day He was taken up to heaven, after giving instructions through the Holy Spirit to the apostles He had chosen." (NIV) Furthermore, there are linguistic and theological similarities between the two works, suggesting that they have a common author.[81][82] Both books also contain common interests.[83] The book of Acts has been most commonly dated to the second half of the 1st century. Given that, therefore, Luke was written by the same person who wrote Acts, and that Acts must have been written in the early 60s AD (the book ends before the death of Paul, which most probably occurred during the Persecution of the Christians under Nero between AD 64 and AD 68), it would seem that Luke was written around AD 60.


Most scholars date the Gospel of John to c. 80–95.
 
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ghostdriver

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LOL
Two of the gospel biographies were written by the apostles Matthew and John, men who knew Jesus personally and traveled with him for over three years. The other two books were written by Mark and Luke, close associates of the apostles. These writers had direct access to the facts they were recording. The early church accepted the four gospels because they agreed with what was already common knowledge about Jesus' life.
Lets see shall I believe the word of GOD who has shown me his glory and power and love in awesome fashion, who gives me everything I could ever need, and communicates with me personally or you and some other people. I CHOSE THE WORD OF GOD LOL The fact you think these people arn't who they say they are is complete ignorance.
 
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thump easy

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ghostdriver said:
I'm telling you from first hand experience what it is HEAR ME! Hear me over the noise and ramblings of the enemy and his followers!
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what are you talking about my god is from the bible i have no other god i usto think there was no god, i have had my own crazzy events thats why i have horns on my head my mission in life was to do harm.. i harm no one but myself... ghost river the flower might be a god it demands alot of time and energy it takes focus away and can keep you captive consumed in every thought.. the flower i will not serve it, i wont be a slave to the flower if it dont pan out i will let it go like everthing i have let go in the past,my god is Jesus son of om, all mighty light in everything every were all at the same time, our shells keep us from other galaxies other creatchures out of reach but once we make the Gerny to the other side this will have just been a dream..but then again I'm not all their..
 
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Ceepea

Ceepea

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ghostdriver said:
LOL
Two of the gospel biographies were written by the apostles Matthew and John, men who knew Jesus personally and traveled with him for over three years.
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No they weren't. You are wrong, and virtually every historian and theologian agrees with me. You have some knowledge that the experts don't possess?

Let me answer that for you since you suck at answering questions;

NO, you don't.

The other two books were written by Mark and Luke, close associates of the apostles. These writers had direct access to the facts they were recording.
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Direct access to a dead guy 70 years later? Wow that's impressive.


The early church accepted the four gospels because they agreed with what was already common knowledge about Jesus' life.
Lets see shall I believe the word of GOD who has shown me his glory and power and love in awesome fashion, who gives me everything I could ever need, and communicates with me personally or you and some other people. I CHOSE THE WORD OF GOD LOL The fact you think these people arn't who they say they are is complete ignorance.
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Take a look... it's in a book.....

This is from a Christian Apologetic site....

http://carm.org/when-were-gospels-written-and-by-whom

Mark
Mark was not an eyewitness to the events of Jesus' life. He was a disciple of Peter and undoubtedly it was Peter who informed Mark of the life of Christ and guided him in writing the Gospel known by his name. "Papias claimed that Mark, the Evangelist, who had never heard Christ, was the interpreter of Peter, and that he carefully gave an account of everything he remembered from the preaching of Peter."7 Generally, Mark is said to be the earliest gospel with an authorship of between A.D. 55 to A.D. 70.

25-35 years AFTER Jesus died. Can you remember exactly what you did 35 years ago? LOL

You're such a joke.

Please... continue.... :)
 
Ceepea

Ceepea

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Some more facts for your ignorant ass.

The earliest quotation of Matthew is found in Ignatius who died around A.D. 115 A.D. Therefore, Matthew was in circulation well before Ignatius came on the scene. The various dates most widely held as possible writing dates of the Gospel are between A.D. 40 - 140. But Ignatius died around A.D. 115, and he quoted Matthew. Therefore Matthew had to be written before he died. Nevertheless, it is generally believed that Matthew was written before A.D. 70 and as early as A.D. 50.

Keep in mind, this is from a Christian apologetic and research site, so of course they're going to date the gospels as early as possible. Even giving the apologetic's their suggested dates means they don't line up with what you're claiming.

You are wrong, simple.
 
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ghostdriver

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Ceepea said:
No they weren't. You are wrong, and virtually every historian and theologian agrees with me. You have some knowledge that the experts don't possess?

Let me answer that for you since you suck at answering questions;

NO, you don't.


Direct access to a dead guy 70 years later? Wow that's impressive.




Take a look... it's in a book.....

This is from a Christian Apologetic site....

http://carm.org/when-were-gospels-written-and-by-whom

Mark
Mark was not an eyewitness to the events of Jesus' life. He was a disciple of Peter and undoubtedly it was Peter who informed Mark of the life of Christ and guided him in writing the Gospel known by his name. "Papias claimed that Mark, the Evangelist, who had never heard Christ, was the interpreter of Peter, and that he carefully gave an account of everything he remembered from the preaching of Peter."7 Generally, Mark is said to be the earliest gospel with an authorship of between A.D. 55 to A.D. 70.

25-35 years AFTER Jesus died. Can you remember exactly what you did 35 years ago? LOL

You're such a joke.

Please... continue.... :)
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Yes, Mathew and John had direct influence on what was written in those chapters, mark and Luke were close associates of the apostles so when I said.

Two of the gospel biographies were written by the apostles Matthew and John, men who knew Jesus personally and traveled with him for over three years. The other two books were written by Mark and Luke, close associates of the apostles. These writers had direct access to the facts they were recording. The early church accepted the four gospels because they agreed with what was already common knowledge about Jesus' life.
I was right
 
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ghostdriver

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John of Patmos (also called John the Revelator, John the Divine, or John the Theologian) is the name given to the author of the Book of Revelation, the apocalyptic text forming the final chapter of the New Testament. The text of Revelation states that the author is called John and that he lives on the Greek island of Patmos, where by some, he is considered to be in exile as a result of anti-Christian persecution under the Roman emperor Domitian.[1][2]


The author of the Book of Revelation identifies himself as "John"[5] Traditionally, this named author is believed to be the same person as both John the apostle of Jesus and John the author of the Fourth Gospel.[5] The early 2nd century writer, Justin Martyr, was the first to equate the author of Revelation with John the Apostle.[6] However, some biblical scholars now contend that these were separate individuals.[7][8]--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Patmos
 
MonkeyChimp

MonkeyChimp

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thepenofareadywriter said:
I am going with the GREAT SPIRIT...I think the native Americans had something much better going for their selves
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The laws The Great Spirit gave the natives through a messenger (The Great PeaceMaker) influenced the U.S Constitution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Law_of_Peace

The same messenger also said the tribes need to unite to fight "the white snake" that is coming to deceive them, after famine affects the natives and the white snake, they will accept the white snake like a long lost brother.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Peacemaker
 
Ceepea

Ceepea

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ghostdriver said:
Fallen Angel activity.
Warning trumpets.
is it true?
YEAH IT'S TRUE
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Video one is a known fake. The fact that you haven't taken the 2 seconds to research this is mind boggling.

Video two is either fake (sounds really fake) or the real phenomenon of acoustic gravity waves. They're generated where the ionosphere meets the atmosphere. Again, take the 2 seconds to do a goggle search and educate yourself.

Video 3 is the same as video 2.

More about acoustic gravity waves;

STRANGE SOUNDS IN SKY EXPLAINED BY SCIENTISTS

Saturday, 28 January 2012 09:17
"Mr. Khalilov, what is the nature of the unusual very low-pitched sounds reported by a great number of people in different parts of the planet since the summer of 2011?"


"Many call them "The Sound of the Apocalypse".Information about that comes from all over the world: US, UK, Costa Rica,Russia, Czech Republic, Australia, etc. We have analyzed records of these sounds and found that most of their spectrum lies within the infrasound range, i.e. is not audible to humans. What people hear is only a small fraction of the actual power of these sounds. They are low-frequency acoustic emissions in the range between 20 and 100 Hz modulated by ultra-low infrasonic waves from 0.1 to 15 Hz. In geophysics, they are called acoustic-gravity waves; they are formed in the upper atmosphere, at the atmosphere-ionosphere boundary in particular. There can be quite a lot of causes why those waves are generated: earthquakes,volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, storms, tsunamis, etc. However, the scale ofthe observed humming sound in terms of both the area covered and its power far exceeds those that can be generated by the above-mentioned phenomena.


In that case, what could be causing this humming in the sky?

"In our opinion, the source of such powerful and immense manifestation of acoustic-gravity waves must be very large-scale energy processes. These processes include powerful solar flares and huge energy flows generated by them, rushing towards Earth's surface and destabilizing the magnetosphere,ionosphere and upper atmosphere. Thus, the effects of powerful solar flares:the impact of shock waves in the solar wind, streams of corpuscles and bursts of electromagnetic radiation are the main causes of generation of acoustic-gravitation waves following increased solar activity."
 
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ghostdriver

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Ceepea said:
Video one is a known fake. The fact that you haven't taken the 2 seconds to research this is mind boggling.

Video two is either fake (sounds really fake) or the real phenomenon of acoustic gravity waves. They're generated where the ionosphere meets the atmosphere. Again, take the 2 seconds to do a goggle search and educate yourself.

Video 3 is the same as video 2.

More about acoustic gravity waves;

STRANGE SOUNDS IN SKY EXPLAINED BY SCIENTISTS

Saturday, 28 January 2012 09:17
"Mr. Khalilov, what is the nature of the unusual very low-pitched sounds reported by a great number of people in different parts of the planet since the summer of 2011?"


"Many call them "The Sound of the Apocalypse".Information about that comes from all over the world: US, UK, Costa Rica,Russia, Czech Republic, Australia, etc. We have analyzed records of these sounds and found that most of their spectrum lies within the infrasound range, i.e. is not audible to humans. What people hear is only a small fraction of the actual power of these sounds. They are low-frequency acoustic emissions in the range between 20 and 100 Hz modulated by ultra-low infrasonic waves from 0.1 to 15 Hz. In geophysics, they are called acoustic-gravity waves; they are formed in the upper atmosphere, at the atmosphere-ionosphere boundary in particular. There can be quite a lot of causes why those waves are generated: earthquakes,volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, storms, tsunamis, etc. However, the scale ofthe observed humming sound in terms of both the area covered and its power far exceeds those that can be generated by the above-mentioned phenomena.


In that case, what could be causing this humming in the sky?

"In our opinion, the source of such powerful and immense manifestation of acoustic-gravity waves must be very large-scale energy processes. These processes include powerful solar flares and huge energy flows generated by them, rushing towards Earth's surface and destabilizing the magnetosphere,ionosphere and upper atmosphere. Thus, the effects of powerful solar flares:the impact of shock waves in the solar wind, streams of corpuscles and bursts of electromagnetic radiation are the main causes of generation of acoustic-gravitation waves following increased solar activity."
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There can be quite a lot of causes why those waves are generated: earthquakes,volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, storms, tsunamis, etc. However, the scale ofthe observed humming sound in terms of both the area covered and its power far exceeds those that can be generated by the above-mentioned phenomena.


So first you state you think it's all a hoax to trick you to stop doing sexual immoral things or something? Then you think these things happen all the time?
LOL did you even read what you posted?
" There can be quite a lot of causes why those waves are generated: earthquakes,volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, storms, tsunamis, etc. However, the scale ofthe observed humming sound in terms of both the area covered and its power far exceeds those that can be generated by the above-mentioned phenomena."
 
Ceepea

Ceepea

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ghostdriver said:
There can be quite a lot of causes why those waves are generated: earthquakes,volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, storms, tsunamis, etc. However, the scale ofthe observed humming sound in terms of both the area covered and its power far exceeds those that can be generated by the above-mentioned phenomena.


So first you state you think it's all a hoax to trick you to stop doing sexual immoral things or something? Then you think these things happen all the time?
LOL did you even read what you posted?
" There can be quite a lot of causes why those waves are generated: earthquakes,volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, storms, tsunamis, etc. However, the scale ofthe observed humming sound in terms of both the area covered and its power far exceeds those that can be generated by the above-mentioned phenomena."
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Did you stop reading it to make this comment? It says;

In our opinion, the source of such powerful and immense manifestation of acoustic-gravity waves must be very large-scale energy processes. These processes include powerful solar flares and huge energy flows generated by them, rushing towards Earth's surface and destabilizing the magnetosphere,ionosphere and upper atmosphere. Thus, the effects of powerful solar flares:the impact of shock waves in the solar wind, streams of corpuscles and bursts of electromagnetic radiation are the main causes of generation of acoustic-gravitation waves following increased solar activity."

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
 
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ghostdriver

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Ceepea said:
Did you stop reading it to make this comment? It says;

In our opinion, the source of such powerful and immense manifestation of acoustic-gravity waves must be very large-scale energy processes. These processes include powerful solar flares and huge energy flows generated by them, rushing towards Earth's surface and destabilizing the magnetosphere,ionosphere and upper atmosphere. Thus, the effects of powerful solar flares:the impact of shock waves in the solar wind, streams of corpuscles and bursts of electromagnetic radiation are the main causes of generation of acoustic-gravitation waves following increased solar activity."

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
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DO YOU SEE THE WORD OPINION?
 
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ghostdriver

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Do you know what opinion means?

Opinion-
a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
 
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