White House Response to The New York Times Editorial Board's Call for Federal Marijuana Legalization

Addiction and a bad habit are not the same.

You switching nose thumbs is a bad habit.

When you flick boogers, that's a bad habit.

When you get traumatically sick when you try stop and that makes it very difficult to stop, that is addiction.

Nonsense, they are the same. One might argue they are degree of the same core concept. Habit continuing on to addiction as severity progresses. But it's a progression of the same.

We have all sorts of legal things that are addictive. Why are you guys so scared of the a word?

Facts:

Weed is,
A drug,
Addictive,
Harmful in its use,
Impedes the ability to operate machinery,


And it does all of this less than many legal substances, many of them are nominal in their severity.

But you guys got your head in the sand if you think this is some sort of magical plant that offers only great things and no dark cloud in that silver lining.

Doer said:

Isn't that the truth. Coffee withdrawal is weeks of headaches. Not even worth it.

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Weeks? Really? Mine lasted half a day. You must have drunk a LOT of coffee!

If you have something against weed you are not welcomed around here.

It isn't fear. It is standing up to Double-Think.

Read the sentence about addiction. That is a medical definition and yours is pop-punk bullshit.

I don't have anything against weed.

I'm just not blind by it.

I helped a guy do some premarital counseling one time as an internship in college.

Couples about to get married are often blinded by their love. Particularly ones that hasn't lived together. They are so in love with their soon to be spouse that they have roses colored glasses. They are unrealistic in their attitudes towards their significant other.

Some of you seem to have that same relationship with marijuana.

I simply realize it isn't perfect.

SmokeyDan said:

I don't have anything against weed.

I'm just not blind by it.

I helped a guy do some premarital counseling one time as an internship in college.

Couples about to get married are often blinded by their love. Particularly ones that hasn't lived together. They are so in love with their soon to be spouse that they have roses colored glasses. They are unrealistic in their attitudes towards their significant other.

Some of you seem to have that same relationship with marijuana.

I simply realize it isn't perfect.

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Wut??

His point is that it is not addictive and people can walk away from it without any physical withdrawal.

Your problem is that you are wrong but have argued so long you are afraid to admit it so you keep going in the face of absurdity.

I have had physical withdrawl from alcohol. DT's, sweating, nausea, vomiting, weakness, etc. Never had that with weed when I quit and I smoke multiple times a day. I can turn it off like a light switch when I want to.

Weed is fun to smoke, habit forming and psychologically addictive to certain people but nobody needs to go on CBD's to transition off the ganja....

SmokeyDan said:

Your definition precludes many things that are widely accepted as addictive.

But I would argue that weed does fit.

I have highlighted some compulsive uses earlier in this thread. People who continue to smoke despite an expressed wish to stop, who face unwanted consequences when they can't stop. And they keep smoking.

I've heard smokers discussing tolerance to weed here. Check number 2.

As for three, quiting weed has very minor but noticeable affects. People can't sleep, they're ass holes, they have attention problems.

Addiction specialists all agree that weed is addictive.

Weed users don't.

Users are not the group to trust as they can never be objective and honest about their symptoms.

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weed does NOT have any physiological compulsion, nor any withdrawal symptoms other than those created by the habituated's own psyche.

it builds a tolerance over time if you smoke out constantly, over a period of years, but even the most burnt out stoner has no physical reaction to stopping, only psychological ones.

if you insist on creating a whole new classification for addiction that includes weed youre gonna have to come up with a new word for it, cuz "Addiction" has already been taken, and it's meaning makes no room for exclusively psychological dependence.

going to church isnt an "addiction" either despite being compulsive, destructive to society, building up a tolerance over time which results in a downward spiral of lunacy, and causing irritability and annoying behaviour when the faithful are deprived of their habitual doses of crazy every sunday.

gambling isnt addictive either, even though pschologists have claimed it is, nor is sexual deviance, which psychology similarly calls "addiction"

thats why psychology is no more scientific than astrology, phrenology or crypto-zoology. they just make shit up and use sciency sounding words to create the illusion of rigorous methodology.

i dont give a rat's ass what "addiction specialists" believe, or what lies they tell.

if those dickheads get to re-define addiction to suit their psuedoscientific mummery, then they will include every "disorder" they can, to increase their profit margins and broaden their pool of dupes.

before long they'll develop new "technologies" to combat the "addiction" to whatever they want to suppress, like dissident ideas, counter-revolutionary thinking, lack of respect for authority, or support for the evils of freedom or capitalism, or if they are more conservative, the "disease" of homosexuality, lack of religious piety, belief in marxism, or marxist thought, voting democrat, etc etc etc.

once dumbasses like you let the genie out of it's bottle, youll be fucked in the ass by your own hubris.

SmokeyDan said:

I don't have anything against weed.

I'm just not blind by it.

I helped a guy do some premarital counseling one time as an internship in college.

Couples about to get married are often blinded by their love. Particularly ones that hasn't lived together. They are so in love with their soon to be spouse that they have roses colored glasses. They are unrealistic in their attitudes towards their significant other.

Some of you seem to have that same relationship with marijuana.

I simply realize it isn't perfect.

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Horse snot you drool.

He is just trolling. He sound like a little kid, naive.

SmokeyDan said:

I don't have anything against weed.

I'm just not blind by it.

I helped a guy do some premarital counseling one time as an internship in college.

Couples about to get married are often blinded by their love. Particularly ones that hasn't lived together. They are so in love with their soon to be spouse that they have roses colored glasses. They are unrealistic in their attitudes towards their significant other.

Some of you seem to have that same relationship with marijuana.

I simply realize it isn't perfect.

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lemme guess, a psychology major.

no wonder you have such idiotic ideas.

ask a physician if "weed addiction" is an addiction or a habiutation and youll learn some facts.

Like after 40 + years. I am just blindly in love with pot.

Fool. I'm madly in love with getting high.

Doer said:

That is the point of the Alcohol Lobby. Alcohol is not illicit, and should be. It surely contributed to the weed accidents by and large.

THIS ADMIN LIES.

All these that voted for him were sure he would just stoke the pen and make it all legal, the fools.

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They are government officials; therefore they act as the mouthpiece of the highest bidding constituency.

That's money as free speech in action... why isn't everyone happy?

But, I have to say, there is one thing that is associated and that is a chronic bronchial cough.

However, I know, for me that clears up completely in 2-3 weeks. Still it is annoying. I wish for better isolation and ingestion studies. And being ahead of the curve, I vape mostly.

I have no bronchial distress at all these days.

Red1966 said:

Weeks? Really? Mine lasted half a day. You must have drunk a LOT of coffee!

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Mine go a couple days, a lil aspirin and it's not noticeable.

ttystikk said:

They are government officials; therefore they act as the mouthpiece of the highest bidding constituency.

That's money as free speech in action... why isn't everyone happy?

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Truth. Let the high bids vote.

Caffeine is part of my carefully crafted daily pharmacopeia.

In other words. I like it and have no reason not to have it, like pot.

Doer said:

Truth. Let the high bids vote.

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Personally, I think the place runs better with a one real live non-corporate piece of paper kind of breathing human person, one vote kind of approach.

The uber class bought the right to vote with their dollars- and now they earn more dollars than the other 90% combined.

Well, on that article I can't wait for you to get the the punchline so here it is.

Medicinal use of marijuana is likely not harmful to lungs in low cumulative doses. Recreational use is not the same as medicinal use and should be discouraged based on current evidence, particularly in young individuals.