Which event this week will have a longer term effect on the US, Republicans losing in Georgia or

Which has longer lasting effect on this country

  • Democrats won the senate

    Votes: 6 31.6%
  • Radicals who support Trump trashed the Capitol building

    Votes: 7 36.8%
  • Neither have a long lasting effect

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • Both have equal weight

    Votes: 4 21.1%

  • Total voters
    19
  • Poll closed .

mysunnyboy

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It is gonna take some time and the older people are the less likely to change. The average 20 to 40 year old Trumper does have much more of a capacity to evolve and change and some will. Old ideas (conditioning) die with the people that hold them and are replaced by new people with new conditioning.

Think of all those multiracial couples you see in advertising these days and the other kinds of "normalization" and tolerance you are seeing promoted. These people are professional advertisers, branding is creating biases remember, and these people know how to do it. Some people see this "pernicious" influence as a threat, but it is conditioning generations of Americans and normalizing biracial and gay relationships in many commercials. This is but one example of liberal culture eroding the world of shit these MAGATs live in.

It's not like we liberals are standing around play with our dicks, those that have them anyway! :lol:
I’ve got so much to say but I’m gonna take a different route.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I’ve got so much to say but I’m gonna take a different route.
Like it or not we are conditioned, today by media more than ever. I remember a time when a black woman kissing a white man on TV would have caused a major stir and millions of "complaints" in America. Societies evolve but someone also has to lead change. A kid watching Sesame street has less of a chance being impacted by the racism and intolerance than one who does not. One of the reasons the "Hollywood elites" are despised is because they generate cultural change by creating biases and deconditioning others. The point of the post is "liberals" are fighting back effectively against this proliferation of hatred.

Governments can also help with this social change and that has been something lacking in America up until now. Hate speech laws, regulation of social and other media, police reform and even teaching mindfulness in schools, are other means of addressing these issues and promoting change. Ultimately these changes in attitudes and social conditioning will be reflected in the polls and then in your lives.
 

mysunnyboy

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Like it or not we are conditioned, today by media more than ever. I remember a time when a black woman kissing a white man on TV would have caused a major stir and millions of "complaints" in America. Societies evolve but someone also has to lead change. A kid watching Sesame street has less of a chance being impacted by the racism and intolerance than one who does not. One of the reason the "Hollywood elites" are despised is because they generate cultural change by creating biases and deconditioning others. The point of the post is "liberals" are fighting back effectively against this proliferation of hatred.

Governments can also help with this social change and that has been something lacking in America up until now. Hate speech laws, regulation of social and other media, police reform and even teaching mindfulness in schools, are other means of addressing these issues and promoting change. Ultimately these changes in attitudes and social conditioning will be reflected in the polls and then in your lives.
What I don’t like has nothing to do with content.
I don’t like to be preached to.
 

Don't Bogart

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Governments can also help with this social change and that has been something lacking in America up until now. Hate speech laws, regulation of social and other media, police reform and even teaching mindfulness in schools, are other means of addressing these issues and promoting change. Ultimately these changes in attitudes and social conditioning will be reflected in the polls and then in your lives.
Social change is a tough nut to crack. Just like pot, to get the perfect strain you have to work out the poor qualities.
Changes in ideas, attitudes, among other things will take time. Basically if you want kinder, gentler people then you almost want kinder, gentler people to meet and have families which in turn are kinder and gentler.
You want your sons and daughters to grow up wholesome, kind, honorable, most of that process starts at home. That they see everyone around them as equal. They in turn do like wise, caring about what's inside not outside.

What I don’t like has nothing to do with content.
I don’t like to be preached to.
I'm sorry if I don't understand. Preaching here, out there, the media?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Social change is a tough nut to crack. Just like pot, to get the perfect strain you have to work out the poor qualities.
I too have considered a eugenics solution to the Trumpers, namely castration, but alas it is unconstitutional. :lol:

Perhaps one day there will be a human genetic technology treatment, CRISPR for STUPID!o_O
 

mysunnyboy

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Social change is a tough nut to crack. Just like pot, to get the perfect strain you have to work out the poor qualities.
Changes in ideas, attitudes, among other things will take time. Basically if you want kinder, gentler people then you almost want kinder, gentler people to meet and have families which in turn are kinder and gentler.
You want your sons and daughters to grow up wholesome, kind, honorable, most of that process starts at home. That they see everyone around them as equal. They in turn do like wise, caring about what's inside not outside.


I'm sorry if I don't understand. Preaching here, out there, the media?
It’s all good
 

Don't Bogart

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I too have considered a eugenics solution to the Trumpers, namely castration, but alas it is unconstitutional. :lol:

Perhaps one day there will be a human genetic technology treatment, CRISPR for STUPID!
I figured someone would catch that eugenics notion. Comical as it all sounds. We need to stay away from that idea. I don't care how benevolent anyone thinks their being. That's playing god. I'm already hearing of the rich wanting "a-la-cart kids".
 

Budley Doright

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Not sure who said it, heard it today while destroying my perfectly fine bathroom, girlfriend thought it needed a new shower stall :cuss:. So anyways, sorry for the off track thing. Ok the guy said.............”When you cut off the head off a snake, the snake wriggles and moves like it’s gone crazy”, “This is not because it’s alive, it’s because it’s dying”. (Not verbatim) I’ll keep that one in my mind till I die.
 

Don't Bogart

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Not sure who said it, heard it today while destroying my perfectly fine bathroom, girlfriend thought it needed a new shower stall :cuss:. So anyways, sorry for the off track thing. Ok the guy said.............”When you cut off the head off a snake, the snake wriggles and moves like it’s gone crazy”, “This is not because it’s alive, it’s because it’s dying”. (Not verbatim) I’ll keep that one in my mind till I die.
I have seen that and I've also seen a chicken run around without it's head. Actually it was still hanging on by a piece of skin being dragged on the ground.
 

Fogdog

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I have seen that and I've also seen a chicken run around without it's head. Actually it was still hanging on by a piece of skin being dragged on the ground.
Mike The Headless Chicken lived for 18 months without a noggin after a farmer, in a failed attempt at slaughter, axed off his head and missed the jugular vein. “Miracle Mike” was eye-droppered a milk and water mixture until he met his unexpected death over a year later when he choked on a kernel of corn.

Part of the reason that a chicken can live without its head has to do with its skeletal anatomy, according to Dr. Wayne J. Kuenzel a poultry physiologist and neurobiologist at the University of Arkansas. The skull of a chicken contains two massive openings for the eyes that allow the brain to be shoved upwards into the skull at an angle of around 45 degrees. This means that while some of the brain may be sliced away, a very important part remains.
 

hanimmal

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The last animal I killed that wasn't in pain was a huge snapping turtle when I was a kid 'hunting' (aka getting drunk and killing stuff in the woods) with my brother and his friends.

Shot it a couple times, and stabbed it and finally chopped off its head. The worst part was it kept acting like it had a head and was trying to snap at me for a long time.

I decided I rather watch nature than kill it at that point.

Sorry your chicken thing made me think of that.
 

Fogdog

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The last animal I killed that wasn't in pain was a huge snapping turtle when I was a kid 'hunting' (aka getting drunk and killing stuff in the woods) with my brother and his friends.

Shot it a couple times, and stabbed it and finally chopped off its head. The worst part was it kept acting like it had a head and was trying to snap at me for a long time.

I decided I rather watch nature than kill it at that point.

Sorry your chicken thing made me think of that.
I've never had turtle soup. Interested in trying it some day. From eco friendly source, of course.
 

CunningCanuk

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Interesting poll, too bad more didn’t participate. I wonder how many participants will have the same opinion in a couple of years.
 
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