UncleBuck
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are you clinically retarded?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2686644/
you have it completely wrong.
What level of gun control do you support?
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2686644/
you have it completely wrong.
OGEvilgenius
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They conflate sociopathy - which is not a mental illness and is simply a neurological way of being IMO with a lot of others. Most of these people go undiagnosed or get diagnosed in prison where they hope it will help them get out.
I do not consider folks on the APD spectrum to be suffering with a treatable mental illness and many mental health professionals will agree with that assessment.
I don't think violent criminals should have guns though, no.
UncleBuck
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i'm sorry that you are having such a difficult time coming to terms with your wrongness.
there's a reason why prisons are filled with mentally ill people: it's because mentally ill people way more likely to commit crimes, and especially violent crimes.
Padawanbater2
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People with mental health issues shouldn't be able to buy a gun because they're not mentally cognizant enough to own or operate one and most people would rather err on the side of caution, especially when it comes to matters of life and death.
Like I asked you before, how would you ensure those with legitimate mental health issues who shouldn't own a gun are screened from those without?
In any case, I think denying someone without legitimate mental health issues the sale of a gun is much better than approving someone with mental health issues the sale of a gun.
OGEvilgenius
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Sociopaths are. Yes. But they are not treatable. Nor are they suffering from an illness. They in fact have good reason to exist if you want to talk about our evolution. Most world leaders wouldn't be able to function if they weren't sociopaths.i'm sorry that you are having such a difficult time coming to terms with your wrongness.
there's a reason why prisons are filled with mentally ill people: it's because mentally ill people way more likely to commit crimes, and especially violent crimes.
You cannot treat it and most people never get diagnosed with it (until they hit prison).
It is in no way shape or form comparable to bipolar, schizophrenia, depression and many other mental health illnesses which are indeed quite treatable.
UncleBuck
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let's put your farting mouth blather aside, and focus on what falsehood of yours i am addressing.
people with mental health issues are far more likely to commit crimes and violent crimes. they are not less likely to do so, as you claim.
OGEvilgenius
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You cannot do that screening effectively so I wouldn't do it at all. The only policy you can have as a government that doesn't become totalitarian (and very dangerous) in nature is a reactionary one where you put people in prison who commit crimes and take their rights from them.
Note how I mentioned those in government wouldn't be able to function in their jobs without suffering from this "mental illness" (it's not) ? And you want to give them, and only them the guns eh? Your strive for utopia will only create hell.
I read your posts and it isn't surprising almost half of your generation wants to eliminate free speech in the name of peoples feelings.
UncleBuck
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i'd love to see you try to cite that non-existent poll.
I think wanting to own way more guns and ammo than you can actually use is a sign of mental illness.
Also thinking that all of those guns will defend you against the US Army when they come to take them away is another very clear sign of mental illness.
Using these two examples will eliminate many current guns owners from legal possession. Pretty cool huh?
Also thinking that all of those guns will defend you against the US Army when they come to take them away is another very clear sign of mental illness.
Using these two examples will eliminate many current guns owners from legal possession. Pretty cool huh?
OGEvilgenius
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People with depression, bipolar, schiozophrenia et al are much less likely. Sociopaths are much more likely. They are not mentally ill. Illness implies there is some kind of curative action that is possible. You cannot cure them. They are not ill. It is simply how they exist. They also tend to dominate the upper spheres of government too. But you're right, it's best to put ALL of the guns in the hands of "mentally ill" people (with none in the hands of the healthy to protect themselves from said "mentally ill"), eh UB?
UncleBuck
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mentally ill people are much more likely to commit crimes and violent crimes. this is a fact that can be demonstrated over and over and over again through scientific studies.
you are very wrong.
UncleBuck
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oh, i see the problem here.
you, being a racist rawn pawl fanboi, think that free speech and hate speech are the same thing.
why do you favor making hate speech legal, marshmallow?
Padawanbater2
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You're saying elected officials are mentally ill, they have to be to get there. Yet in another breath, you're saying the mentally ill should be allowed to own guns..
Your generation raised us, blame yourself
Brilliant solution
OGEvilgenius
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What on earth is your point in the first answer? Leaders are not mentally ill. They are sociopaths. You cannot help sociopaths. You cannot treat them. If you give them therapy it only gives them new strategies to fuck over other people with and help blend in. And you want to give them exclusive license to weaponry. That is demonstrated all through history to be a bad idea. Reference the hundreds of millions dead at the hands of government.
I certainly did not raise your generation. You guys are a product of the generation before mine. The government controlled education system is largely responsible for your generation. That and a lack of parents at home. Know what happened in communist countries where everyone is forced to work? The kids wound up in day cares. No big deal right? Well guess what, they grew up emotionally stunted in a major way. Criminality rampant. Sociopathy greatly increased. And they are still suffering as a result today. Same thing being reported in Quebec day cares which are supposedly some of the best in the world. The rate of criminality and sociopathy greatly increases as well as a lack of empathy.
You're far too ignorant and obtuse to see what your solution results in. You know very little about what has made society what it is today. You don't understand the role of the family in this process (hence your likely regressive positions on the subject) and you do not understand that if you set all the awful precedents you want to set, even if you're the group in power - you won't always be.
For the same reason anyone who defends government spying is a moron, you are also a moron. "If you don't do anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about."
But you don't get to decide what's right and wrong. Whoever is in power does. And it won't always be "your guy". Which is why it's best to limit the size of government in the first place.
As far as biggoted speech being not worth protecting because it is offensive, that is ridiculous. People can be offended by anything. Many people were very offended by the notion that the Earth wasn't the center of the Universe and that it was round. They even claimed the guy making the claim hated God and humanity itself. So they killed him. Maybe you've heard of him? But yeah, let's not protect speech.
More over, I'd much rather hear a biggot speak out loud than hide in the shadows. It's the best way to counterbalance their ideas which generally don't stand up anyway - all the more reason to let them spew. Maybe you can change their perspective. But nah, instead you'd rather label them criminals and hate them in the same way they hate minorities. Which only creates divide. Which only makes the problem worse. Look at the fucking bullshit happening on College Campuses. You can't even dress in many halloween costumes because of cultural appropriation whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean. It might offend someone. And you're not allowed to join black only groups anymore or hispanic or whatever.. it's becoming so so segregated again... it's so fucking stupid.
This cultural Marxist bullshit is going to destroy society. Probably already has but we're in death knell right now. Your generation is, frankly, extremely frightening. My generation is somewhat frightening, but not to the extent yours is... most the folks in my demographic are waking up the utter insanity being pushed by the extreme left.
Rob Roy
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Rob Roy
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i'm sorry that you are having such a difficult time coming to terms with your wrongness.
there's a reason why prisons are filled with mentally ill people: it's because mentally ill people way more likely to commit crimes, and especially violent crimes.
How much violence are you willing to threaten people that won't give up their guns?
Would you use guns to force them to comply?
Hasn't that Obama guy authorized using weapons on innocent people that caused their death ? Would you disarm him and his lackeys too?
Are you okay with political "leaders" having security forces that are armed, in places where serfs cannot legally be armed?
Do you consider shitting on somebody else floor, assault with a deadly weapon?
see4
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LOL. Stop watching Rush and Alex, they are warping your tiny brain.
OGEvilgenius
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I don't watch Rush or Alex Jones thanks. Cultural Marxism is something that dominates left wing thought. That's just a fact, objective fact. All the founding mothers (and fathers, in the background of course) of the feminist movement were Marxists. They didn't hide it either. They use deliberate division of groups to create conflict to install extreme totalitarian policy. All of this is OBVIOUSLY happening in real life. But you know, put your head in the sand if you prefer.
Wanna know the only variable that consistently is correlated and has been deduced to be causal for many of the issues members of the black community face? Single parent house holds.
In fact, 85% of people in jail come from single parent homes. But nah, the family isn't important. Just ignore all the sociological study that indicates otherwise.
If you want a thorough university level debunking of all things cultural marxist feel free to watch some Karen Straughan or read her work/research.