USA - Probably the most ****ed up country on earth

two fences? wtf

skunkd0c said:

Fences, hmm, walls are stronger, the world needs more walls like the great wall of China !
The world would look like a maze from space with all those walls
as long as the walls come with free-wifi we good to go

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and magic tele port holes for the natives so that they can cross the wall. If you're mexican then you can't go through, but if you're American you can.

Highlowazupkush said:

Putting a border around a country is downright wrong, because the land on earth is everybodies inherently.

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From where did this bit of wishfulness come? It sounds ... arbitrary. cn

Well, even the idea that humans should roam free to, I don't know, to trod my grass without borders, sounds like humans have some right to the world. Humans have a slim hold on this world by force. Anyone that has been out of sight of land or hearing of man, knows what I mean. We carved it from the beasts. We are not entitled to any of it.

Boarders are nothing more that designations of areas of responsibly the Big WBear knows. All of us could understand and it would be better indeed., These lines are simply who shovels the shit. I am not kidding.

The Bridge. New show. I tried to watch it. Pretty gritty. But, to illustrate....

The opening scene is a dead woman, exactly on the LINE on the Bridge. Oh, who shovels? A body dump. From which side?

Who shovels and who gets to watch? Who can human wave and who's problems are what gangs?

Boarders are something that, at the very least, say, Mine | Yours

Keep the line and No wholesale blood. The Mexican border is a simple line with the USA. It can't be secured in the way anyone can imagine it.

Yet, it is secure. And it takes real experts to understand that, I guess. Do you notice, the Drug Lords don't roll into San Luis, AZ and just kill the Mayor and Chief of Police? They do on the other side, right? Why not? It is that line of Raw Power. That is a border.

The rest is posturing and doing nothing. Politic. A border is politics. Mine. And here, at this line WE will die, but mostly likely kill, to keep it. It could be a water hole or a shit hole. If someone will kill to keep it. That is conflict. A border conflict.

A border is war and war is God. (R rated. Not intended for immature audiences)

skunkd0c said:

Yep that's who it was, that bear is evil !

Are they not all hillbillies ?

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Lmao, idk!

cannabineer said:

From where did this bit of wishfulness come? It sounds ... arbitrary. cn

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That little short man with the hat on that one video said so, lols... Na but really, earth should be a peaceful place where there should be no fear of stepping on a land mine from 100 years ago. Preferably of course.
and if earth is peaceful, then how many reasons are there really to forbid people from travelling around the world? Why should I for example not be allowed to travel around the world?

cannabineer said:

~cannot resist~

I also note that karousing has abandoned this discussion. cn

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what discussion? you mean the staring eye contest discussion, oh that!

Strike 2. (and a few more.....)

All i know is that I'd rather be able to kick ass and defend myself, over being be rich, healthy, intelligent, good looking, well respected, or getting laid , if it came down to it. Sorta how the USA can make anyone do whatever they want, and stop anyone they want from doing what they want.

Highlowazupkush said:

People of the world (POW) hate what the politicians are making the US army do. pow hate the fact that the citizens of the USA are so dumb, blind, and NUMB that the vast majority of them (BUT NOT ALL) would go to war and fight their governments battles cold heartedly as they have done.
Although the actions of many politicians, people in power, soldiers, ect, have been very idiotic and moronic, that does not mean that every yank is a fucking moron.
If every yank was indeed a moron, then going to the USA would indeed not be worthwhile for anyone, but thankfully that is not the case, and the p.o.w have the right to visit the USA, more so than YANKS had any right to invade the usa and kill American Indians.

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First off, most of the countries the we are fighting in, we were reached out to by those nations for help and support. If were gonna help you, we might as well get something out of it. Oil, resources, military base, diplomacy, etc. It is easy to look at us getting involved and say oh there goes the usa again getting involved in other peoples affair. How do you even know how we got involved in the first place? Just because the news reports it one way, or the government releases a different reason doesn't mean that either of them are correct.

Secondly a yankee by definition is a person from the usa, so how can a person from the usa, invade the usa. Secondly, It was every country in the world but the USA that invaded the USA and killed all the American Indians, we didn't even exist yet lol

Situation420 said:

All i know is that I'd rather be able to kick ass and defend myself, over being be rich, healthy, intelligent, good looking, well respected, or getting laid , if it came down to it. Sorta how the USA can make anyone do whatever they want, and stop anyone they want from doing what they want.

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We don't have to choose. WE have it ALL in self rule.

I create my life, you create yours and still some losers will just bitch to their grave, while suckling the teat of self rule.

Situation420 said:

First off, most of the countries the we are fighting in, we were reached out to by those nations for help and support. If were gonna help you, we might as well get something out of it. Oil, resources, military base, diplomacy, etc. It is easy to look at us getting involved and say oh there goes the usa again getting involved in other peoples affair. How do you even know how we got involved in the first place? Just because the news reports it one way, or the government releases a different reason doesn't mean that either of them are correct.

Secondly a yankee by definition is a person from the usa, so how can a person from the usa, invade the usa. Secondly, It was every country in the world but the USA that invaded the USA and killed all the American Indians, we didn't even exist yet lol

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You don't understand entirely. People have a problem with the USA's conduct, lack of moral, ethics and everything else thats good, and there is too much of the bad, like SLAUGHTERING civilians just because some fellow yankies didn't make it in the gun battle; They died, Their lives got took! so the YANKS had to take back 10x as many with their war machines, regardless if its a man woman child, combatant, anyone that isn't there with the army gets a bullet to the neck.
They don't report that kind of thing on the news over where you live, do they? RT does though! (Russia today, news channel, check it out.)

And every US resident (even illegal immigrants) pays for the guns. That's the problem.

Doer said:

We don't have to choose. WE have it ALL in self rule.

I create my life, you create yours and still some losers will just bitch to their grave, while suckling the teat of self rule.

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what is this "SELF RULE" thing which you have repeated 100x now?

Highlowazupkush said:

You don't understand entirely. People have a problem with the USA's conduct, lack of moral, ethics and everything else thats good, and there is too much of the bad, like SLAUGHTERING civilians just because some fellow yankies didn't make it in the gun battle; They died, Their lives got took! so the YANKS had to take back 10x as many with their war machines, regardless if its a man woman child, combatant, anyone that isn't there with the army gets a bullet to the neck.
They don't report that kind of thing on the news over where you live, do they? RT does though! (Russia today, news channel, check it out.)

And every US resident (even illegal immigrants) pays for the guns. That's the problem.





what is this "SELF RULE" thing which you have repeated 100x now?

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So when Jews were getting roasted in Poland, was it the Polish civilian populations fault?

cannabineer said:

And yet. cn

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Okay, Canni, I will bow to that King, but don't step on my blue suede shoes.

Highlowazupkush said:

You don't understand entirely. People have a problem with the USA's conduct, lack of moral, ethics and everything else thats good, and there is too much of the bad, like SLAUGHTERING civilians just because some fellow yankies didn't make it in the gun battle; They died, Their lives got took! so the YANKS had to take back 10x as many with their war machines, regardless if its a man woman child, combatant, anyone that isn't there with the army gets a bullet to the neck.
They don't report that kind of thing on the news over where you live, do they? RT does though! (Russia today, news channel, check it out.)

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So only the US has been part of the war in the Iraq or Afghanistan?

Why bother? I am up for all conversation with adults. And even kids that can act like adults for conversation.

Do we think there is any use in trying the help the understanding of a butt troll? No. It just opening the pants. You see?

Vampire Butt Trolls have to be invited in.

Don't invite the Vampire Butt Trolls.

kpmarine said:

So only the US has been part of the war in the Iraq or Afghanistan?

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When your buddies throw in the odd kick/dig against the person you're fighting, they don't count as involved...

Either way, my nation wasn't there, so the moral high-ground goes to me I suppose...

I saw a Javelin shot yesterday that was Prideful for me. Last day for the 2/5 Marine Company on their valley harassment mission.

1653 meters, three guys that they had patiently tracked, across 3 Platoons reporting, and the afternoon attack was in full swing. These 3 seemed to be hunkered down a mile off, planning something.

BOOM. Landed in middle of the 3 guy's battle conference. I love that thing. I wish I could own one.

Harrekin said:

When your buddies throw in the odd kick/dig against the person you're fighting, they don't count as involved...

Either way, my nation wasn't there, so the moral high-ground goes to me I suppose...

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High, low or middle, you are in self rule, same as us. I respect that.

Of course, #3 is simply wrong. No where in our Constitution does it say we must declare war to fight on foreign soils or water.
Professor Lindell explores the role of judicial review in the conduct of foreign affairs. He canvasses five kinds of cases in the UK, Ireland and the USA which have concerned or arisen out of the recent military actions in Iraq and Afghanistan:

1. The legality according to the rules of public international law of the Coalition invasion of Iraq in 2003, whether raised directly in civil pro*ceedings or indirectly, in criminal pro*ceedings where demonstrators against the war are prosecuted for damaging military installations used in the war in an attempt to rely on the international illegality of the war as a justification for their own illegal conduct.
2. The legality according to the rules of public international law of a neutral country (Ireland) participating in the Iraq war in 2003 to the limited extent of allowing US aircraft carrying military personnel and munitions en route to Iraq to fly over and land in the neutral country, contrary to the rules of public international law that deal with the duties of a neutral country.
3. The constitutional legality of the US invading Iraq in 2003 allegedly without obtaining the Congressional approval required un the US Constitution; and the legality of the Irish Government participating the same war to the limited extent already mentioned, allegedly without obtaining the approval of the Dail (lower House of the Irish Parliament) required under the Irish Constitution. the focus here is on the breach of domestic constitutional requirements designed to require legislative approval for the executive to engage in military hostilities.
4. The legal responsibility of the UK Government for its failure to make diplomatic representations to seek the release of one of its citizens from arbitrary detention in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba by the US miliarty authorities which resulted from those authorities treating the citizen as an 'enemy combatant' after capture in Afghanistan.
5. The legal validity of two decrees. The first was issued by the Iraqi Govern*ment and purported to expropriate civilian aircraft which belonged to a public authority of Kuwait. The decree was issued following the invasion of Kuwait by Iraq in 1990-1991. The second decree may have been hypothetical in character. It is assumed that it was issued by the Coalition Allies and attempted to expropriate oil in Iraq following the invasion of Iraq by the Coalition Allies in 2003. It is also assumed that the validity of both decrees is raised in civil proceedings which are commenced in the courts of the United Kingdom where the ownership of the aircraft and oil is in dispute between private parties. The focus here is on the application of the rules of private international law.

Harrekin said:

When your buddies throw in the odd kick/dig against the person you're fighting, they don't count as involved...

Either way, my nation wasn't there, so the moral high-ground goes to me I suppose...

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http://www.irishtimes.com/news/refuelling-and-rendition-ireland-s-role-in-the-war-on-terror-1.1251071

Ireland has helped with the transfer of "guests" to the CIA's 5 star hotels...

Apparently you have about 5 troops deployed in advisory roles to ISAF/NATO HQ in Kabul.

echelon1k1 said:

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/refuelling-and-rendition-ireland-s-role-in-the-war-on-terror-1.1251071

Ireland has helped with the transfer of "guests" to the CIA's 5 star hotels...

Apparently you have about 5 troops deployed in advisory roles to ISAF/NATO HQ in Kabul.

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We perform peacekeeping operations around the world, this is widely known.

Listen, the US Govt clearly paid a shitload of cash to one/some/all of the pieces of shit that was in Govt at the time in exchange for that.

There were protests here, people freaked the fuck out when that news broke.

US soldiers arnt even allowed wear sidearms when on Irish soil in an "unofficial" capacity now.