USA - Probably the most ****ed up country on earth

nitro harley

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IMO it's time the US had a real conversation on terrorism. Putting that picture on RS is a start.

Let's be honest, you cannot fight terrorists while supporting terrorism. It's not working. Afghanistan is failing and we are seeing a resurgence of jihadists as we prepare to pull out. Pakistan has been providing safe haven, arms, training and most importantly; command & control via the ISI to these groups.

I mean Pakistan for example is a supposed ally of the US, but time and time again we see the opposite. From a Paki general funding mohammed atta, to the pak army letting UBL escape tora bora and finally the icing on the cake, UBL found living in a military cantonment in a million dollar plus compound in what can only be described as a police state.

Supporting sunni takfirs, under the Obama administration, such as Jabhat al-Nusra, Free Syria Army, AQ, AQIM, Syrian Muslim Brotherhood and Palestinian Islamic Jihad in Syria and Libya cannot continue in its present state. Providing arms, funding, training and logistics has backfired, the most public of which since 9/11/01 was Benghazi.

Supporting them abroad is only one side of the coin; the other side is the ineptness of the FBI and the Homeland Security apparatus in general. With its massive budgets, federalisation of local and state law to serve as its eyes and ears, the fusion centres and PRISM; how is it conceivable that boston could happen?

Literally all major domestic terror incidents foiled in the US since 9/11 was a direct result of a concerned citizen/citizens, reporting something they thought was strange to either US embassies or domestic law enforcement.

I suppose the fundamental question is do you feel safer?
I agree with a lot of what you are saying......but the kid in your avatar is a punk....We have plenty of punks killing kids in schools and movie theaters, and federal buildings....I am just saying this so you would maybe consider looking for something different....It is hard to look at for me...
 

Doer

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It is all true. And Mr. E has a lot of details about the current situation. But, I know there are a lot more details than that, and we know who has them.

One thing I've learned in this culture, there are many times to practice, "going snake eyes," Little Big Man.

Just let it harden your aim.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
I suppose the fundamental question is do you feel safer?
Since I stipulate to all your details, I chopped them. I don't think that is the fundamental question. In fact I am pretty sure there is nothing in the Docs about how we are to feel. That is the 9th. Feel up your sister if you can get away with it. :)

We can Chase a feeing, but there is no guarantee. Only the Right to Life and Liberty to have the Chase is upheld with no warranty.

So, is this a system to make us feel safer? No it is not. Some can never feel safe, and then there is Old Lather, you know.

Doesn't know safety from shit, but still a Citizen in the force protection agreement between the States.

In fact there is no contract with an individual in the Constitution. It provides for the common defense and assigns a system of decision making, 3 really, in a strange unstable balance.

This was never for living people. That was only if they won. It was the butcher bill if they lost, their names for the noose. A lot of what is happening here means we need information. For WE are in the process, in that, we pick the decision makers. But, those Citizens make the decisions, not WE.

But, a lot of what happens is very confusing without deep special knowledge that takes a 1/2 a lifetime to understand. And even then 99.99% of what goes on in this world can be known and understood by only a very few. They know it and have the background to see if it is a dot that needs connecting.

"Why is that kid digging up that tree they just planted 2 days ago?"

That could be the beginning of Armageddon, very unlikely. But, 3 people won't know. The Kid, the Dad and the Neighbor.

Perhaps the tree doesn't care. But, that is a butterfly sneeze. We all know what that means in chaos theory. Digging that tree could actually mean anything. That is the problem.

So, I am quite sure we are not supposed to feel safe. But, we are safe and we spend big treasure to stay safe.

That would be zombie death for Americans to feel safe. WE put our guard down and that is just what the Anti-Cons want. So, let's not support them, Mr E. :)

WE never feel safe in self rule. We aren't safe from each other and that's a fact.
 
Obama, being totally against pouring water in a terrorist's face, has no issue with droning to death hundreds of people with an admitted 25% collateral loss rate.

We need to get out of all of those countries, start respecting sovereignty of countries, stop the drone war, etc.

Take all the money we save to improve border controls and security back in the USA and maybe pay back some of the MASSIVE debt we are racking up.

But that isnt as sexy...

Why do you need border controls?

If you arrested all of the corrupt people in the USA that are causing problems for everyone, let the public (and the Muslims) have their way with the corrupt cunts, then you would not need to have any fences around your country.
Putting a fence around the USA is very anti social and its pretty much the same thing as what North Korea has been doing.

North Korea has electric fences and gun men who can shoot you to death (I don't actually know from personal Experience, but this is what I imagine, lol) anyway, compare that to the idea of having drones flying around "guarding" the corrupt men inside the usa!

As I said, the solution is simple. Just round up all of the bad people and let justice be served, after that, no need for fences!!!


Let's be honest, you cannot fight terrorists while supporting terrorism. It's not working.
LMAO I think echelon would support terrorists...... IF IT DID WORK! lols!
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
We need borders the same way puppies need fences, and forts need walls.

Look in the mirror. That is why. The need for borders is human greed.
 
Puppies need fences because they generally don't look both ways when they cross the street. It would be a shame for that cute little puppy to run after a cat he saw on the other side of the road, and then get run over!

Is that the reason USA needs borders? Oh OKAY! I didn't know that, thank you for educating me Doer, today has been very inspiring for me, so much new information. I now know that yanks are stupid like puppies and need fences to stop them from being run over when they cross a street. You learn something new everyday! THANKS DOER! :) :) :)


Forts you say? Do you even know what a fort is? saying a fort needs walls is KIND of like saying a gun needs bullets.

Gee maybe you aren't as smart as I thought, after all!
 

NoDrama

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I suppose the fundamental question is do you feel safer?
That is the crux of it isn't it? Are we safer?

The statistical chance of anyone in the USA being the subject of or chance meeting with a terrorist, terrorist plot, bomb, hijacking etc etc is Half that of the chance that when you walk out your front door today, lightning will strike you 4 times in a row.

Do you feel safe walking out your front door knowing that?

Terrorism, its whats for lunch.
 
Just when I think you can't say anything stupider...you go and say this.

I'm sorry. I will never underestimate you again.
Yes, because for you, underestimating someone means that they are able to be more stupid than you thought! [/sarcasm]

I guess you have a high regard for being stupid!!!! Doesn't surprise me!



That is the crux of it isn't it? Are we safer?

The statistical chance of anyone in the USA being the subject of or chance meeting with a terrorist, terrorist plot, bomb, hijacking etc etc is Half that of the chance that when you walk out your front door today, lightning will strike you 4 times in a row.

Do you feel safe walking out your front door knowing that?

Terrorism, its whats for lunch.




Q: How many US soldiers have died in the Middle East War since 9-11?

A: In nearly a decade of war in Afghanistan and Iraq, 5620 Americans have died. It is estimated that over 750,000 Iraqi citizens have been killed since the outset of the U.S. led war in Iraq.

Wow, nearly a million people in IRAQ alone have been killed.. genocide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.chacha.com/question/how-many-us-soldiers-have-died-in-the-middle-east-war-since-9-11






How many died in 9/11?


According to this site, the answer is around 3000

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_died_in_the_September_11_attacks
 

Harrekin

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Puppies need fences because they generally don't look both ways when they cross the street. It would be a shame for that cute little puppy to run after a cat he saw on the other side of the road, and then get run over!

Is that the reason USA needs borders? Oh OKAY! I didn't know that, thank you for educating me Doer, today has been very inspiring for me, so much new information. I now know that yanks are stupid like puppies and need fences to stop them from being run over when they cross a street. You learn something new everyday! THANKS DOER! :) :) :)


Forts you say? Do you even know what a fort is? saying a fort needs walls is KIND of like saying a gun needs bullets.[/b]

Gee maybe you aren't as smart as I thought, after all![/QUOTE]
So that's why your shithole country was walked over by the Nazis...yous only just figured out guns NEED bullets?

You are dumb as FUCK.
 

nitro harley

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Puppies need fences because they generally don't look both ways when they cross the street. It would be a shame for that cute little puppy to run after a cat he saw on the other side of the road, and then get run over!

Is that the reason USA needs borders? Oh OKAY! I didn't know that, thank you for educating me Doer, today has been very inspiring for me, so much new information. I now know that yanks are stupid like puppies and need fences to stop them from being run over when they cross a street. You learn something new everyday! THANKS DOER! :) :)


Forts you say? Do you even know what a fort is? saying a fort needs walls is KIND of like saying a gun needs bullets.

Gee maybe you aren't as smart as I thought, after all!

If the world hates america so much why would they care if we build a fence....If you don't like america just stay the hell out of here it's that simple...
 

Mindmelted

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Yes, because for you, underestimating someone means that they are able to be more stupid than you thought! [/sarcasm]

I guess you have a high regard for being stupid!!!! Doesn't surprise me!









Q: How many US soldiers have died in the Middle East War since 9-11?

A: In nearly a decade of war in Afghanistan and Iraq, 5620 Americans have died. It is estimated that over 750,000 Iraqi citizens have been killed since the outset of the U.S. led war in Iraq.

Wow, nearly a million people in IRAQ alone have been killed.. genocide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.chacha.com/question/how-many-us-soldiers-have-died-in-the-middle-east-war-since-9-11






How many died in 9/11?


According to this site, the answer is around 3000

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_died_in_the_September_11_attacks
With the large majority of those being killed by their own people.....
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
With the large majority of those being killed by their own people.....
Don't bother, that Russian wannabe and all his people are just naturally dumb as fuck.

I think he has me on ignore anyways, so will you quote this so the retard can try read it?
 

Mindmelted

Well-Known Member
Don't bother, that Russian wannabe and all his people are just naturally dumb as fuck.

I think he has me on ignore anyways, so will you quote this so the retard can try read it?
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