The mods are cracking down!

heckler73 said:

Is that so? I'd love to see how long it takes for you to beat the monkey. (oh boy, I see a pun in there somewhere).

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So far I can get perfect on 8. Once you get to 9, it's hard as fuck.

What you do is visualize a shape. At the intersections of the shape are the blocks. You use the numbers to form the shape and don't think about them as numbers.

I wish they would let you start out on 9. It took about 15 minutes to figure out how to make the shape for the first 8. Number 9 is a bitch.

What I think I'll do is make my own number board the same way they do it. Then I'll concentrate on how to make the shapes for 9.

UncleBuck said:

get caught stealing from walmart, or did your parents turn you in?

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If UncleBuck went to jail he'd have to change his name to UncleFucked!

berad4guvna said:

If UncleBuck went to jail he'd have to change his name to UncleFucked!

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It's funny cuz it almost rhymes AND you underlined it!

UncleBuck said:

ah, yes.

the "liberal plantation".

it's not the fact that you have horrible ideas that are abhorrent to minorities (like getting rid of civil rights because it's not a "good idea", or telling muslims they can't build a mosque under freedom of religion), it's just that black people are too stupid to think for themselves and too lazy to do anything but take handouts.

that racist assumption is what your entire "liberal plantation" nonsense depends on.



because it simply couldn't be your platform of horrible ideas and bigotry. no, nothing is EVER your fault. you are a member of the party of personal responsibility, yet refuse to acknowledge that your personal ideas are what is responsible for the fact that minorities simply do not want to vote for your candidates, by and large.

why don't you go send rawn pawl some more money so he can publish more of his infamous newsletters and then wonder to yourself why minorities abhor your party and refuse to vote for it.

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See that's why you remain on the plantation.
The subject matter was your racist comment not what you think you
thought I said about another issue.

So now I have a "black crutch" according to you.....which is.....wait for it.....
Pretty goddam racist.

Response to this was literallly " nu uh your racist" with slight sophistry filter.

Which resembles a form of opression....allbeit a silly internet forum type, still there though.
All you can come up with is piecemeal fragments with much adlib.

A REALLY FRESH example is in these last couple posts. Plainly stated the plantation engulfs any culture.
Same as back in the day....the plantation targeted Republican Culture.

If you think government should be all or in part your daddy, nanny, teacher,employer, resource manager, fiduciary accountant and retirement home...then you're on the plantation.

you say that's racist because black people potato handouts potato.
Can you find anywhere I have said black people are all on handouts?
You must be confused Aunty....I think the handout culture is on par
with population race distribution, unless you can cite otherwise or care
to then there's really no basis for your rasist ass claims.

twostrokenut said:

See that's why you remain on the plantation.
The subject matter was your racist comment not what you think you
thought I said about another issue.

So now I have a "black crutch" according to you.....which is.....wait for it.....
Pretty goddam racist.

Response to this was literallly " nu uh your racist" with slight sophistry filter.

Which resembles a form of opression....allbeit a silly internet forum type, still there though.
All you can come up with is piecemeal fragments with much adlib.

A REALLY FRESH example is in these last couple posts. Plainly stated the plantation engulfs any culture.
Same as back in the day....the plantation targeted Republican Culture.

If you think government should be all or in part your daddy, nanny, teacher,employer, resource manager, fiduciary accountant and retirement home...then you're on the plantation.

you say that's racist because black people potato handouts potato.
Can you find anywhere I have said black people are all on handouts?
You must be confused Aunty....I think the handout culture is on par
with population race distribution, unless you can cite otherwise or care
to then there's really no basis for your rasist ass claims.

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Ignore this race baiting moron. It's obvious he's a closet racist, a one trick pony who's neurotically fixated on one topic. Look up the concept of "reaction-formation defense mechanism" and see if doesn't fit this goon to a T.

UncleBuck said:

so go to another beach if there are too many black people there. got it.

since you claim to believe in treating everyone equally, where then is the advice to go to another beach if there are too many white people there?

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So is packing up and going to a different beach bad because you remove the chance for a bunch of guys to have the honor of gang raping your daughter, or stealing your expensive sandals while you're in the ocean?

Padawanbater2 said:

I think jailhouse/prison lunchrooms are a little different than your everyday schoolhouse lunchrooms. I'm guessing you went to elementary school sometime before 1980? Kids high school age and below are increasingly more welcoming to other ethnicities, I know myself as a kid going to school throughout the 90's and 00's that I was probably never in a classroom with 100% of any kind of single race.. most of my school was made up of at least 50% latino students, 30%, 20% white

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I wasn't even born before the 1980's. And yes, school is different from the jail house, we wouldn't have hurt a black person for sitting at our table in high school.

Speaking of my high school, there were almost two thousand students, and probably less than 20 black students. There were two tables in a corner of my high school where blacks sat for lunch. They didn't have to sit there, but they did. The only time I recall seeing one sitting someplace else was when a white guy was dating a black girl, she would sit with them. But a white girl would sit with her bf if she was dating a black guy.

I've seen this in other schools since I graduated. When I was in law school the black students formed their own group and wouldn't hardly associate with anyone else.

People self segregate a lot. I've often heard that our society is more segregated today than it was in the 1950's. Of course today it is all by choice.

But since my high school had so few black students, we really mixed together a lot. Just not in lunch.

Judging from your high school dates we are appx. the same age. I never observed anyone acting rudely toward a black student because he was black. It wasn't a racist thing, just how society works.

If you take a child who has no opinion on race to a playground, and there are lots of groups playing together he will choose who his friend is going to be by sex, race, and age.

It is more important for the child to have a playmate the same age, so they will self select for the same age.

Then he will look for same sex, a 6 year old white boy would bypass a group of same aged white girls to go play with a group of six year old black kids.

Lastly, if there are two groups of six year old boys, one white, one black (mostly) the six year old white boy is most likely to ion the (mostly) white group of boys.

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So is packing up and going to a different beach bad because you remove the chance for a bunch of guys to have the honor of gang raping your daughter, or stealing your expensive sandals while you're in the ocean?

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So, more whites = less crime. No. The Whites did this crime of Underclass. You are talking about a dis-advanged underclass. Why are they an underclass? They didn't say they were, Cow Crane. Us Slavers' sons said so. And you, slaver son, still say so. So, how did they get so disadvantaged, Slaver's Son?

The Cow Cranes fucked with them and their families for over 300 years now.

OTH, no slaves no Tobacco Export. No Tobacco Export, no USA. Get a grip man, we did this TO them and they did this USA for us.

And still there are these sick and flappy Cow Cranes, Cow Crane.

Uncle Ben said:

Ignore this race baiting moron. It's obvious he's a closet racist, a one trick pony who's neurotically fixated on one topic. Look up the concept of "reaction-formation defense mechanism" and see if doesn't fit this goon to a T.

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So it is the same thing that he says most of the people who get all worked up over opposing gay equality have... Like how the mega church leader who speaks out against homosexuality on a regular basis was caught with a gay prostitute...

Damn, that is what he has. He lets enough tiny racist attitudes slip out from time to time to give just a scent of it. He is more comfortable with saying the n word than most genuine white race crusaders I know are.

Haha, bucky might be the biggest racist of us all.

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So it is the same thing that he says most of the people who get all worked up over opposing gay equality have... Like how the mega church leader who speaks out against homosexuality on a regular basis was caught with a gay prostitute...

Damn, that is what he has. He lets enough tiny racist attitudes slip out from time to time to give just a scent of it. He is more comfortable with saying the n word than most genuine white race crusaders I know are.

Haha, bucky might be the biggest racist of us all.

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No. You are. Buck is just using the Jingos of his politics. And like said, he tried that on me. Did I bust a gasket about being race-baited? Oh hell no. He even tried to sell to others but they didn't see it, cause it ain't there.

So, since it is there, in you, you don't like a spade being called a spade, you spade.

When you show your racial sense and failures we say so. Not baiting, Yet, there is race baiting. This is politics.

Why is it only the racists rise to the bait?

We are baiting for racist, not brook trout, ya dig? If not a racist, why do you take this bait?

Doer said:

So, more whites = less crime. No. The Whites did this crime of Underclass. You are talking about a dis-advanged underclass. Why are they an underclass? They didn't say they were, Cow Crane. Us Slavers' sons said so. And you, slaver son, still say so. So, how did they get so disadvantaged, Slaver's Son?

The Cow Cranes fucked with them and their families for over 300 years now.

OTH, no slaves no Tobacco Export. No Tobacco Export, no USA. Get a grip man, we did this TO them and they did this USA for us.

And still there are these sick and flappy Cow Cranes, Cow Crane.

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You are arguing the why, I am pointing out the is.

When it comes to avoiding crime, it really doesn't matter if they are savage beasts who simply cannot control their criminal impulses, or if they are highly enlightened beings who have been brutalized to the point they have no recourse but to reach out and take what they need, and strike out in righteous vengeance.

That is the why.

The is is this, predominately black neighborhoods have higher crime rates.

If you simply wish to avoid the chance of being a victim of crime, the why does not matter... The is dictates avoidance as the best solution to the problem of being a victim.

You agree they are this way.., you just said so.. "we did this to them."

Take that as fact and nothing changes.

Train your dog to be mean and vicious, or adopt a dog that is mean and vicious.... Either way you still have a mean and vicious dog. It is best to stay away from mean and vicious dogs, is it not? And no I'm not calling black people mean and vicious. But the same logic applies.

This point (avoiding black neighborhoods) has nothing to do with who or what made them that way. I would equally stay out of very poor white neighborhoods.

(edit: you got your equation wrong, it isn't more withes = less crime, it's less blacks = less crime)

Doer said:

No. You are. Buck is just using the Jingos of his politics. And like said, he tried that on me. Did I bust a gasket about being race-baited? Oh hell no. He even tried to sell to others but they didn't see it, cause it ain't there.

So, since it is there, in you, you don't like a spade being called a spade, you spade.

When you show your racial sense and failures we say so. Not baiting, Yet, there is race baiting. This is politics.

Why is it only the racists rise to the bait?

We are baiting for racist, not brook trout, ya dig? If not a racist, why do you take this bait?

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Doer, buck didn't "out me." I have never been "in."

I'm the one who came in here with the "I'm a spade" t-shirt on.

I know that. You are a good thinker. I see some of my concepts may take root.

Nothing to be proud about. You have it figured all wrong is all. If not a racist you will not rise to the bait.

Here: Let's role play. Uncle Ben can join in.

Me: Racist Racist racist racist...choke gag...racist racist..whew...racist,. rac...whatever.

You and Ben: (Yawn, sniff, scratch, pet bed partner) .....snore. See? Didn't take the bait?

Burst their bubble.

Doer said:

I know that. You are a good thinker. I see some of my concepts may take root.

Nothing to be proud about. You have it figured all wrong is all. If not a racist you will not rise to the bait.

Here: Let's role play. Uncle Ben can join in.

Me: Racist Racist racist racist...choke gag...racist racist..whew...racist,. rac...whatever.

You and Ben: (Yawn, sniff, scratch, pet bed partner) .....snore. See? Didn't take the bait?

Burst their bubble.

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Well, that may well be. I don't know. I do know that many on this site have very fucked up views on race. Most people here seem to think i dislike black people with out any reason to think that. You seem to be in a happy moderate spot. You recognize, it seems, the problems, you just think the cause is entirely external.

BigNBushy said:

Well, that may well be. I don't know. I do know that many on this site have very fucked up views on race. Most people here seem to think i dislike black people with out any reason to think that. You seem to be in a happy moderate spot. You recognize, it seems, the problems, you just think the cause is entirely external.

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I know that it is. I am a student of history, not one doomed to repeat it.

This spot? Not moderate at all. Very real.

Canna Sylvan said:

So far I can get perfect on 8. Once you get to 9, it's hard as fuck.

What you do is visualize a shape. At the intersections of the shape are the blocks. You use the numbers to form the shape and don't think about them as numbers.

I wish they would let you start out on 9. It took about 15 minutes to figure out how to make the shape for the first 8. Number 9 is a bitch.

What I think I'll do is make my own number board the same way they do it. Then I'll concentrate on how to make the shapes for 9.

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Interesting. I scored 9 (on herb, nicotine, caffeine and piracetam, although, I don't think the nootrope had an effect due to tolerance). At 10 I couldn't 'see' the path as clearly. Even though one can scan & plan a path 3 or 4 times before the numbers cover, I think the mind becomes fatigued from the previous sequences.

But you can see these tests have quantitative values, and there are enough participants for normalized curves to be plotted. When I think about the IQ tests we had to take as children (in BC they used to test all public school kids at certain grades) they don't compare with the detail which can be derived from these newer forms of cognitive assessment.

Now, can one train? Of course! That's part of the point, as well. If these tests are viable metrics for particular cognitive functions, then it stands to reason they are also tools for the purpose of developing those functions. Granted, whether or not those 'skills' translate or transpose into daily activity can be debated. However, there is only one way to find out...

ONWARD SCIENCE!!!

Doer said:

I know that it is. I am a student of history, not one doomed to repeat it.

This spot? Not moderate at all. Very real.

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Ok mr student of history... Tell me about a country where blacks have prospered, providing a decent living to most citizens/subjects like most of the rest of the world does today.

Or, in the alternative, if you must look back to antiquity, show me a sub Saharan society that flourished for centuries and made great achievements.

I really would love to read about the last one there. There are some blips on the radar, but nothing has lasted more than a couple generations.

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Ok mr student of history... Tell me about a country where blacks have prospered, providing a decent living to most citizens/subjects like most of the rest of the world does today.

Or, in the alternative, if you must look back to antiquity, show me a sub Saharan society that flourished for centuries and made great achievements.

I really would love to read about the last one there. There are some blips on the radar, but nothing has lasted more than a couple generations.

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Don't get snippy about my data rate. Everything was nice and pastoral, in Africa.

What you call great advancement, I and others might call the gang rape of this world.

Do you think there was more civilization in Africa than Europe during the last Ice Age? Well, I would say so. Do you know that the trade routes from China do not pass through Africa? Do you not understand, if I keep you in a box under the bed, you would learn to be inferior if you wanted to live?

Do you realize that it took the Welby Revolver, lies and deceit, and finally the Maxim machine gun to conquer the Zulu?

So, Sub-Saharia Africa? Do you know when the slave routes were established.... oh who cares to educate those that refuse to learn? I don't.

I already said. I'm sick of it. And you can be of the truly stupid, when you refuse to learn. Life's choices. You make them.

But, you actually don't know shit about history, and I guess too stupid to look it up. The Nubian and Ethiopian civilizations were flourishing, before you Cow Cranes up north, could switch your butt thumbs.

But, your definition of advancement and achievement is disgustingly racist. That is the main block you have. You hate. Maybe you won't admit it. But, fear and hate are on you like stink. You are the trailer trash thinker around here. <beeeelch>

Nubian civilization was born ca. 2000 BC, with the rise of the city of Kerma (the first Sub-Saharan city). For the early phase of Nubian civilization (ca. 2000-1000 BC), however, the land of Nubia was subject to Egyptian political dominance. Independence was finally achieved ca. 1000 BC, when Egyptian power fell into decline and Nubia was united as the kingdom of Kush (ca. 1000 BC-300 AD). The initial capital of this kingdom was Napata.B57,23

For a brief period, Kush actually conquered Egypt, such that its kings took on the additional role of pharaoh. Then, driven from Egypt by invading Mesopotamians, the kingdom moved its capital southward, to Meroë. Kush continued to thrive until ca. 300 AD, when Meroë was destroyed by Ethiopia.23

Doer said:

Do you realize that it took the Welby Revolver, lies and deceit, and finally the Maxim machine gun to conquer the Zulu?
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Don't forget the Mk2 Martini-Henry .577/450 rifle.
It played a substantial roll (for the British) in the Anglo-Zulu War of 1879 where at the battle of Rorke's Drift, 139 British soldiers successfully defended themselves against several thousand Zulus.

Superior firepower combined with solid training trumps shear numbers more often than not.

BigNBushy said:

Ok mr student of history... Tell me about a country where blacks have prospered, providing a decent living to most citizens/subjects like most of the rest of the world does today.

Or, in the alternative, if you must look back to antiquity, show me a sub Saharan society that flourished for centuries and made great achievements.

I really would love to read about the last one there. There are some blips on the radar, but nothing has lasted more than a couple generations.

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There is plenty of info on that, an excellent book called "Guns Germs and Steel" explains the lopsided nature of advancement in civilizations.

The short answer is that Europe and Asia are on an east west axis which allowed them to trade grain crops and animals that would thrive anywhere along those thousands of miles of latitude due to similar climates. Agriculture allows for the division of labor which is a catalyst for rapid growth and innovation (weaponry). Africa (and also the Americas) didnt have the domesticable animals or grain crops for that type of forward surge in civilization so they were restricted from advancing beyond tribe to chiefdom and state.

When cultures collide the stronger more advanced one subjugates the other and usually exploits their land and resources,stifling further growth.