the 2020 democratic candidate (and VP)

2020?

  • kamala harris

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • john hickenlooper

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • tim ryan

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • sherrod brown

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • kirsten gillibrand

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • tim kaine

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • chris murphy

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    18

Padawanbater2

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are you implying billionaires can't be moral, upstanding people?
No, but most of them aren't, and all of them are out of touch with working class Americans. Also, that just looks bad. If you're trying to run on the platform "party for the people", which the Democratic party has traditionally targeted, middle-class people don't believe you or take you seriously when you put someone like Cuban at the front of the line.

I'd rather the leader of the Democratic party emerged as an actual progressive who can identify with his constituents
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
No, but most of them aren't, and all of them are out of touch with working class Americans. Also, that just looks bad. If you're trying to run on the platform "party for the people", which the Democratic party has traditionally targeted, middle-class people don't believe you or take you seriously when you put someone like Cuban at the front of the line.

I'd rather the leader of the Democratic party emerged as an actual progressive who can identify with his constituents
you're not really a democrat, so we don't really care what you have to say.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
you're not really a democrat, so we don't really care what you have to say.
Speak for yourself.

Pad is an American and has a right to his opinion based on that alone. Further, even if you don't like his reasons, it's clear that he's given some thought to them.

I'm not always a fan of your stances either but I don't go around telling people 'we' don't care about them.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
You're not really a progressive. Keynes > You > Me

So, I don't really care what you have to say, either. You favor party loyalty above progressive policy. Moderate over Progressive.

Your favor just lost, embarrassingly. Do you still feel smart?
except that i am a progressive.

and hillary walloped sanders.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
except that i am a progressive.
TPP/trade, universal healthcare, universal college, the private prison industry, the war on drugs, waging aggressive war, climate change/fossil fuel industry..

It's not "progressive" to support a trade policy that screws over the middle-class, just like NAFTA did, in favor of big business. It's not progressive to condemn universal healthcare or college as unrealistic. "Super predators". Voted for Iraq, Libya and supports more aggression in Syria.. Supports the natural gas industry.. etc.

You pretend you're a progressive. Those of us who are actual progressives can see right through it
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Which is what tells me you don't understand politics. Which is odd, considering 90% of your posts are in this section of the forum.

Which leads me to believe you must be mentally deficient in at least some aspects of political analysis
He isn't deficient and he isn't stupid. He feels like his family is in the top ten percent of income and wealth, so he's fine with what the democratic party is doing on his behalf.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
TPP/trade, universal healthcare, universal college, the private prison industry, the war on drugs, waging aggressive war, climate change/fossil fuel industry..

It's not "progressive" to support a trade policy that screws over the middle-class, just like NAFTA did, in favor of big business. It's not progressive to condemn universal healthcare or college as unrealistic. "Super predators". Voted for Iraq
purity tests are stupid.

for example, we could not run someone like you for anything because we'd be constantly having to defend and explain your creepy porn fetishes and giving porn to minors.

even bernard would be disqualified for dumping toxic waste in poor hispanic neighborhoods and voting against the amber alert.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
purity tests are stupid.

for example, we could not run someone like you for anything because we'd be constantly having to defend and explain your creepy porn fetishes and giving porn to minors.

even bernard would be disqualified for dumping toxic waste in poor hispanic neighborhoods and voting against the amber alert.
Lol first you say purity tests are stupid- and then you apply some.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
You're not really a progressive. Keynes > You > Me

So, I don't really care what you have to say, either. You favor party loyalty above progressive policy. Moderate over Progressive.

Your favor just lost, embarrassingly. Do you still feel smart?
Honestly, I don't think you are a progressive.

I think you're an establishments party democrat.
To a republican, an establishment democrat is a progressive. Also compared to the next four years, Obama's progressive presidency will seem like a golden age of liberal progress. Since I've been here, you have always talked as though Trump were already in charge. Just saying, incremental change is better than none.

Sanders is organizing some rallies this weekend. Are you going to show up, Ty? The closest one to you is in New Mexico. Why isn't CO having a "save our healthcare" rally?
 
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