Steer Manure

Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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How good is Steer Manure? This stuff I can buy for 1.49 locally says 100% organic composted steer manure, seems like its really rich I picked up 2 bags(1.5 cubic foot each) , wondering if / how I can incorporate them in my cannabis grow. My main goal was to amend my veggie garden with this cow poop but i'd like to add in a little to my soil mix too.
 
GoRealUhGro

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Do u not live anywhere close to a farmer or a cow pasture...I just went down last week to my neighbors ..which has cows..and most of the time if you just ask they will let u go out and steal some turds for free...just get a flat shave and a couple 5 gal buckets ....I got about a half a truck load in an 8 ft bed Chevy truck to add to my pile ...from what u hear it's not super potent but is good for plants for sure...and btw if u do like um saying and get it urself u can ask the farmer what the cows have been fed and how recently .if at al ..have they been given shots or wormed...
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Yodaweed said:
How good is Steer Manure? This stuff I can buy for 1.49 locally says 100% organic composted steer manure, seems like its really rich I picked up 2 bags(1.5 cubic foot each) , wondering if / how I can incorporate them in my cannabis grow. My main goal was to amend my veggie garden with this cow poop but i'd like to add in a little to my soil mix too.
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ironic you mentioned this, I just transplanted (yesterday in fact) three of my mainstays into a mix with manure instead of neem meal.
So it's sorta a small experiment, I've never used cow manure before.
It is a slow release of nitrogen (who doesn't like that) and it's also a good amount of sulfur too.
basicly my neem meal got rained on, sooooo...
We'll see.
You just want REALLY old composted manures, in case they have dewormers in it
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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greasemonkeymann said:
ironic you mentioned this, I just transplanted (yesterday in fact) three of my mainstays into a mix with manure instead of neem meal.
So it's sorta a small experiment, I've never used cow manure before.
It is a slow release of nitrogen (who doesn't like that) and it's also a good amount of sulfur too.
basicly my neem meal got rained on, sooooo...
We'll see.
You just want REALLY old composted manures, in case they have dewormers in it
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http://www.homedepot.com/p/1-cu-ft-Steer-Manure-Blend-71751185/100619087

This is what I got, I put a little in a mix I made for some seedling I got going hope the mix isn't too hot.
 
Yodaweed

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I also used a bag of mushroom compost because I am really cheap, I got the bag for 4 bucks, already amended and I mixed some steer shit in, vermcaulite ,perlite, bunch of amendments like fish bone meal and oyster shell, etc, anyone else use mushroom compost? It was really nice smelling and feeling (yeah I smell my dirt).
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Yodaweed said:
I also used a bag of mushroom compost because I am really cheap, I got the bag for 4 bucks, already amended and I mixed some steer shit in, vermcaulite ,perlite, bunch of amendments like fish bone meal and oyster shell, etc, anyone else use mushroom compost? It was really nice smelling and feeling (yeah I smell my dirt).
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that may be a bit rich for seedlings man
mushroom compost is good stuff, but it's rich..
seedlings need almost nothing except water.
If possible i'd consider transplanting to an super light mix, course it's hard for me to see, considering it's allllll about the ratios that you used..
but compost AND steer manure are enough right there to be a lil much man
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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greasemonkeymann said:
that may be a bit rich for seedlings man
mushroom compost is good stuff, but it's rich..
seedlings need almost nothing except water.
If possible i'd consider transplanting to an super light mix, course it's hard for me to see, considering it's allllll about the ratios that you used..
but compost AND steer manure are enough right there to be a lil much man
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Hope she don't fry, it was a seedling that had filled out their small peat jiffy pot, only time will tell :)
 
GoRealUhGro

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That's a lot hotter than my mix...not the one I'm making but the one I planted in...if I eases your mind I planted straight it the moonshine mix....although I did make it 60% light warrior and 20 20 on the planting mix and o.f...it did mess with two of my plants but the rest are thriveing!...and I meen thriveing. ...the way I feel about it is they make it through the sprout and they don't look burnt or deformed they are gonna grow quick and beautiful in "hot soil"...
 
Alienwidow

Alienwidow

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greasemonkeymann said:
ironic you mentioned this, I just transplanted (yesterday in fact) three of my mainstays into a mix with manure instead of neem meal.
So it's sorta a small experiment, I've never used cow manure before.
It is a slow release of nitrogen (who doesn't like that) and it's also a good amount of sulfur too.
basicly my neem meal got rained on, sooooo...
We'll see.
You just want REALLY old composted manures, in case they have dewormers in it
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Whats the deal with the dewormers.
 
Rasta Roy

Rasta Roy

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Yodaweed said:
I also used a bag of mushroom compost because I am really cheap, I got the bag for 4 bucks, already amended and I mixed some steer shit in, vermcaulite ,perlite, bunch of amendments like fish bone meal and oyster shell, etc, anyone else use mushroom compost? It was really nice smelling and feeling (yeah I smell my dirt).
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I've used mushroom compost in a few of my runs. In my last personal run, I had one that was just in mushroom compost and perlite. Top dressed with worm castings and some sparingly used Guano teas in a side by side comparison with one that was planted in some locally sourced compost. The compost plant held out its nitrogen longer and seemed to perform better overall. However the one grown mushroom compost was my favorite tasting smoke out of the batch.

I've also used mushroom compost in soil mixes and as a top dressing. I haven't missed it when I don't use it, but I keep it around and throw a handful in when I make fungal heavy compost teas for flower. It is cheap and works as a great medium however, but like compost it can be a little heavy when it's on its own so I like to mix in peat moss and perlite as well. And remember that it is sterilized! You need to mix some worm castings, or some normal compost if you want to get a good microbial population in your soil.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Alienwidow said:
Whats the deal with the dewormers.
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well, the stuff stays active for a good amount of time in the manure, from what I've read anyways, so you are killing two birds with one stone, aging the manure not only to cycle/compost it, but to allow the dewormers to dissipate (hopefully)
my containers are all LOADED with not only reds, but natives, so if there are dewormers in it, it's gonna be obvious.. (crossing fingers)
the whole thing is just an experiment, I've simply never grown with cow manure before
I mean a pure leaf compost is higher in macros then manure is, and has ZERO chance of burning anything, so normally i'd just use that... buuuuut I am out till like probably june or so, the CA storms soaked my compost pile, even tarped, and mudslides, etc.
it's a clusterfuck in there....
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Rasta Roy said:
I've used mushroom compost in a few of my runs. In my last personal run, I had one that was just in mushroom compost and perlite. Top dressed with worm castings and some sparingly used Guano teas in a side by side comparison with one that was planted in some locally sourced compost. The compost plant held out its nitrogen longer and seemed to perform better overall. However the one grown mushroom compost was my favorite tasting smoke out of the batch.

I've also used mushroom compost in soil mixes and as a top dressing. I haven't missed it when I don't use it, but I keep it around and throw a handful in when I make fungal heavy compost teas for flower. It is cheap and works as a great medium however, but like compost it can be a little heavy when it's on its own so I like to mix in peat moss and perlite as well. And remember that it is sterilized! You need to mix some worm castings, or some normal compost if you want to get a good microbial population in your soil.
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never have grown mushrooms before, I always forget that the compost is sterilized
good to know..
just did some readin on it (it's slow at my shop)
but here's the best read on the subject, I didn't know they typically put so many nutrients in it
http://squtch.quiet-like-a-panther.org/story/mushroom_compost-34
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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greasemonkeymann said:
never have grown mushrooms before, I always forget that the compost is sterilized
good to know..
just did some readin on it (it's slow at my shop)
but here's the best read on the subject, I didn't know they typically put so many nutrients in it
http://squtch.quiet-like-a-panther.org/story/mushroom_compost-34
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I grew some oyster mushrooms last year, the mushroom compost I get is unused so it is FULL of amendments. The steer manure I use is "composted" so that makes me think it has some age to it. Thanks for all the help guys, the plant that went into the mushroom compost/steer manure mix seems to be doing ok so far, but not sure whats gonna happen when the roots get into the deeper parts of the container. The mix smells like a turtle shit, it is really repulsive.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Yodaweed said:
I grew some oyster mushrooms last year, the mushroom compost I get is unused so it is FULL of amendments. The steer manure I use is "composted" so that makes me think it has some age to it. Thanks for all the help guys, the plant that went into the mushroom compost/steer manure mix seems to be doing ok so far, but not sure whats gonna happen when the roots get into the deeper parts of the container. The mix smells like a turtle shit, it is really repulsive.
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ohh man... if it smells bad it's gonna be acidic, and anaerobic...
hmm my manure smells like manure..
you may want to air out that bag of compost
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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greasemonkeymann said:
ohh man... if it smells bad it's gonna be acidic, and anaerobic...
hmm my manure smells like manure..
you may want to air out that bag of compost
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I got it laid out on a tarp right now for that very reason, it smells horrible. Last night I kept saying to my girlfriend we got a turtle loose in our grow room.
 
Rasta Roy

Rasta Roy

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Yodaweed said:
I grew some oyster mushrooms last year, the mushroom compost I get is unused so it is FULL of amendments. The steer manure I use is "composted" so that makes me think it has some age to it. Thanks for all the help guys, the plant that went into the mushroom compost/steer manure mix seems to be doing ok so far, but not sure whats gonna happen when the roots get into the deeper parts of the container. The mix smells like a turtle shit, it is really repulsive.
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What's different about the deep part of your container? If the roots do fine at first, they should do fine as they continue to grow. And from what I understand cannabis plants grown in containers have roots that go down and then out as opposed to out and then gradually down. It likes to grow it's roots sideways. Unused mushroom compost?? Very cool! Where did you score that? So it's not sterilized then? I know they mix straw, corn cobs, horse manure, chicken manure, Gypsum, and probably some other stuff (maybe some peat moss I would think?). After that breaks down they grow the mushrooms in it, or as it breaks down the mushrooms grow in it? I'm not sure how that part works. Then after they're done growing mushrooms in it they sterilize it.
 
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