GrowerGoneWild
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ChickenFuel is listed at 2-2-2 for NPK. The sarcasm didn't translate well when saying "latest and greatest",.
Steer Manure
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Rasta Roy
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@Yodaweed
Id 'steere clear.'
What you put in you get out. That simple.
This is why people shouldn't buy compost that costs 1.49 a Cuft and expect anything more than sub-par results.Imagine what goes into this steer manure diet, probably gets fed the lowest quality feed you can find..How many dewormers/hormones/antibiotics are used? Probably A LOT considering it's only a 1.50 a bag.
While most things 'work alright' in organics you have people who think you can't win cups with organics because your growing your bud with shitty compost. Aka THE MOST IMPORTANT PART
Agree with you 100%, that's why you'll hear me say I worked in a garden that did "x" vs I did "x" with my garden. You can definitely win cups with organics, but just like cooking food, quality of the ingredients is everything. Subcools misinformation probably isn't helping the organic cause.@Yodaweed
Id 'steere clear.'
What you put in you get out. That simple.
This is why people shouldn't buy compost that costs 1.49 a Cuft and expect anything more than sub-par results.Imagine what goes into this steer manure diet, probably gets fed the lowest quality feed you can find..How many dewormers/hormones/antibiotics are used? Probably A LOT considering it's only a 1.50 a bag.
While most things 'work alright' in organics you have people who think you can't win cups with organics because your growing your bud with shitty compost. Aka THE MOST IMPORTANT PART
Crab Pot
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My wife milks cows at a small organic farm near us twice a week. It's on a share system where at the end of the year they add up what the total cost to care for the cows and devide that by the gallons of milk produced to come up with a per gallon cost. She makes yougurt, kiefer, cheese, butter, cottage cheese to name a few and we get the raw milk and cream. They use DE as their dewormer when needed and no antibiotics. The best part of this deal for me, besides the killer cheeses, is she brings home about two wheel barrels of a mixture of cow manure, alfalfa and hay each time she milks. I mixed that all up with lots of leaves and compost it. This compost comprises half of the humus portion in my mix. The other half is from my worm castings. Makes a great canna soil!
Rasta Roy
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Sounds awesome! Gotta love all that homemade food! I hear that raw milk has great benefits for plants but I've never been able to source it. Maybe I should talk my wife into finding some dairy farm work! Lol
Dr. Who
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My neighbor has 5 horses, he gonna give me a couple dump truck loads of his horse poop in the next few weeks, until then I am gonna steer clearthank you guys.
With a horse, it only goes through 1 gut!
Ruminants (in this case cows) have 4 stomachs.....They chew their food several times and seeds are destroyed in the process!
This multi microbial based digestive system makes for superior composted manure!
You don't see farmers shooting horse shit on fields do you? Now why do you think he's giving you 2 dump truck loads?
MistaRasta
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False. False and false.
Sources?
What Dr. Who said..
A cows digestion is superior to most live stock therefore leaving an amazingly dynamic compost.
Also hence why there is a huge market for cow manure, and why horse shit is free by the truck load.
MistaRasta
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My neighbor has 5 horses, he gonna give me a couple dump truck loads of his horse poop in the next few weeks, until then I am gonna steer clear
I'd stay away from any composts that come from a major distributor as their agenda is not pushed to meet the organic gardeners needs properly.
-Malibu Compost
-Coast of Maine lobster compost
(If you can find an aerobic bag)
-Worm Power
If your going to use a commercial compost these Are what you should be looking for, in Colorado you should beable to find these.
420God
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You just said it yourself, a cows digestive system is really good, leaving less nutrients in the manure.
And idk where you're buying your shit but in most markets its the other way around.
Btw, I'm a farmer and a licensed composter.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/meat-in-the-mix.375646/
MistaRasta
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You're a licensed composter and your talking about nutrient value of manure?
... We're not looking for nutrient value out of manure, we get nutrient value from kelp, neem, gypsum, rock dusts, fish bone meals, etc..
We're looking exclusively at bacteria/fungi content hence why dr who brought up the fact that cows have multiple microbial based digestive systems..
Still don't see any sources..
Btw, I could give two shits less about the compost market when it comes to selling and buying 1.50$ dollar bags because I know the quality isn't there. You know how I know?
I've tested multiple sources..
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420God
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Don't need to add all the extra crap if you're working with a good manure to begin with.
MistaRasta
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Don't need to add all the extra crap if you're working with a good manure to begin with.
No shit Sherlock, this is gardening 101.
Tell me since you're a licensed composter what's your process?
From the horses ass to the time it gets put into the pot...
420God
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I posted the link to one of my threads with links inside of it.
I'm not gonna sit here and spoon feed you info because you're too lazy to look for yourself.
Have a nice day.
MistaRasta
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I posted the link to one of my threads with links inside of it.
I'm not gonna sit here and spoon feed you info because you're too lazy to look for yourself.
Have a nice day.
Ohhhhhh look at my thread, I use anaerobes to ferment rotting meat in my compost. I'm SOOO special.
That's fucking gross man. Get some kelp and minerals, I bet you'd have way cleaner smoke...
Crab Pot
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Bull crap... You state in your thread that your using Fox Farms Beastie Bloomz lol.
Don't need to add all the extra crap if you're working with a good manure to begin with.
420God
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As I stated in the thread it was for an extra boost in flower. Actually burnt my plant and I stopped using it.
I work in tons, not pounds.
See the rows behind the payloader. I'm just adding blood/bonemeal at a much larger scale.
MistaRasta
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Why would you need an extra boost in flower if you're so confident in your horse shit?
MistaRasta
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Ever heard of wholesale?
I know guys working plots, who are still putting in quality material to meet their needs. You're just trying to capitilize off of cheap amendments... It's that simple, really
420God
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I wasn't using horse shit. My mix was cow manure/hay/sawdust/dead deer.
And who doesn't want a little extra boost if they can get it?
I'm doing as nature intended and making a nice fertilizer while I'm at it.
MistaRasta
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Oh I don't know, probably anyone who has a brain... Look what's in this.. You pour this onto your precious compost?
Mono Potassium Phosphate, Iron EDTA, Manganese EDTA, Zinc EDTA, Copper EDTA, Chelating Agent, Disodium Ethylenediamine Tetra Acetate (EDTA), Sodium Borate, Sodium Molybdate
Rasta Roy
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I can vouch for worm power. That I have used in my personal garden.