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BudBaby

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Hi mate, will i need any top hats for the ducting in my lower cabs? Was thinking id need 2 for the intake holes and one for each bend with odour sock?

Been looking at small heaters, there like 55 watts each the ones i was looking at, seems very high, 400 watts for all my buckets. Can we get away with less power?
 
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stelthy

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BudBaby said:
Are these good enough for my needs mate or do i need something more accurate, if these are ok many kits shall i order?

http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/Plant-Nutrition-90/Nutrient-Management-397/Budget-pH-Test-Kits-868.asp
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Again.......I used the exact same ones, I now have a digital reader but in all honesty I prefer these DIY kits, I'd buy 3 or 4 of them as the bottles are only small and you have 4 times the ammount of plants than I have :).......You could get a digital one....around the £45 mark....I think I posted a pic of one in my thread....Any good aquatics store should stock them what do you think? - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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stelthy

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BudBaby said:
I was thinking, how about hanging the fans with chains? I think it may be more sturdy like that also, i could attatch the stand and then use it for the chains to hang on to?

Just found these too, £50 notes but they seem good. Would that be ok instead of a wand and ph test kit? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LOT-QUALITY-PH-EC-TDS-Meter-Temp-Tester-Conductivity-/390203287297?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PlantsSeedsBulbs_JN&hash=item5ad9eda701
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No! lol :) Dont hang the fans with chains :) the chains will vibrate and noise will become an issue...Use bungee's trust me you'll be alot happier with the result...Yeah you can still use the clamp to help secure the bunges and you dont have to worry about moving the fan up and down....The fan unit stays in the same position (up top) the whole grow long :)

Yeah those meters will work fine :)? I dunno how to use those ones ...but its prob quite simple...I still get 1 or 2 DIY tester kits just for cross reference :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 
stelthy

stelthy

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BudBaby said:
Hi mate, will i need any top hats for the ducting in my lower cabs? Was thinking id need 2 for the intake holes and one for each bend with odour sock?

Been looking at small heaters, there like 55 watts each the ones i was looking at, seems very high, 400 watts for all my buckets. Can we get away with less power?
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(Busy drawing a sketch, one min!!) - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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stelthy

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BudBaby said:
I was thinking of Greenhouse Seeds super Lemon haze and Homegrown Fantaseeds Armageddon. Armageddon should be finished about a week before the haze so will work out well.

I pretty much know what to get now as regards to thge ducting its just 4 x 4" top hats, i was thinking about using heavy duty cable ties instead of jubilee clips, let me know what you think.

Regarding nutes, when you say Flores A + B do you mean this http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/Plant-Nutrition-90/Canna-Products-233/Canna-Original-Substra--815.asp it just says flores S/W or H/W? I think i have hard water so ill go for the H/W, doesnt say anything about A + B though? Canna Substra is the old name for hydro by the way its def the right stuff.

I was thinking for mixing nutes to use a container big enough for 2 pots at a time if that would work out, if i did it for all 4 it would weigh a ton as that would be 100ltrs + of water. let me have your thoughts on that, ill get a big homebrew bucket and the paddles will be perfect too for mixing my nutes lol.

Get back to me when you have a minute mate and ill finalise my list and then go down town Tuesday to pay for it all and hopefully ill have it wednesday.

Now im not having to be so exact with positioning the fan hole i can get on with doing that and get the rest of the top cabs lined.
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Yeah those seeds sounds like a good choice :) I like jubalee clips as you can tighten them just that bit extra...Usually I buy 1L quantites of nuitrient and the VEGA and FLOREZ come as a 2-Part additive (2 bottles), (Parts A & B) I am unaware if the 5L versions are combined already in just the 1 carton...I'll look into that :)

Yeah you could use a 2-pot change over and your right 100L is too much to slop around the house lol :) You'll still need a good Billage/Syphon pump to transfer the nuitrients from the big pot to the smaller DWC pots, Homebrew buckets should be fine as with the paddles too :)

I am just gonna add my pic and I'll finalize what we/ you need to get, Take some more pics n upload them as you go, cheers man! - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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stelthy

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Top Section as follow's :-

FILTER > BEND > FLANGE/TOP-HAT > FLANGE/TOP-HAT > UN-INSULATED DUCTING > IN-LINE FAN > BUNGEE CORDS > PLASTIC COVERED HOOKS X4.

* You'll need all the above twice over (to make both cabs the same :) )


Bottom section as follow's :-

SHORTEST INSTALL :-

ODORSOC > BEND > FLANGE/TOP-HAT >


LONGEST INSTALL :-

ODORSOC > FLANGE > FLANGE > BEND > CONNECTOR > INSULATED DUCTING > FLANGE > FLANGE >INSULATED DUCTING > FLANGE


And to then turn that into a complete shopping list...As follow's :) :-

* 4" FLANGE/TOP-HAT X10
* 2 X CARBON FILTERS
* 4" BENDS X4
* IN-LINE FANS X2
* BUNGEE CORDS X4
* 4" ODORSOCS X2
* 4" CONNECTOR X1
* 3M INSULATED DUCTING
* 1M UN-INSULATED DUCTING
* 15/18" SPEAKER GRILLS
* CHEAP ASDA BATH TOWELS X2
* STAPLE GUN
* ANTI-MOULD SEALANT
* DRILL & METAL BITS + CIRC-SAW
* SCREWS (4/PER FLANGE)

And I think thats about it :) ............ You may well already have a load of this stuff so print the list off and cross items off as you go

Hope that helps dude, I am off for a tasty spliff followed by a shower now next stop FOOD :) - STELTHY :leaf:






Ps/ Sorry for the rushed pic :) I'll make the next one a bit better quality :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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BudBaby

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Mate can you confirm that the veg stuff in that link is the right one, its just called flores doesnt mention a & b?
 
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BudBaby

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Im pretty sure thats the one at the place im using i have emailed him to double check though, thats nearly another £600 gone but we are nearly on the home stretch now.
 
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BudBaby

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Just off to pay for all this now mate. Ill get the exhaust holes done tomorrow, using bungees has made things alot easier for me as i can drill the holes in the back corners of the cabs now then fit the fan to match the hole rather than the other way round which i was dreading because one mistake i would have been fooked!!!
 
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BudBaby

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Not sure what size bungies to go for mate or what type, i take it they will be fitted tight around the fan?
 
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BudBaby

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Ive been looking at small fish tank heaters also mate, smallest i can find is 25 watts each. Sounds a bit much to me as that would make another 200 watts of power draw lol and my light is only 280.
 
stelthy

stelthy

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BudBaby said:
Not sure what size bungies to go for mate or what type, i take it they will be fitted tight around the fan?
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Bungees vary in size, and I really couldn't tell you which ones you'll need, But You'll only need 2 per fan. They'll need to take the weight of the fan at its needed height, but also have a little 'give' left in them so the vibration is taken away, Thus reducing noise to minimal ....



As in the pic above.. ^ The bungee cords need to be looped around, one from each side. So providing the bungee's take the weight and the in-line fans don't feel like they're gonna go anywhere..You'll have done it right :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 
stelthy

stelthy

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BudBaby said:
Ive been looking at small fish tank heaters also mate, smallest i can find is 25 watts each. Sounds a bit much to me as that would make another 200 watts of power draw lol and my light is only 280.
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Yeah I use the 25 watt ones, ...If the res is too cool then plant growth will be slowed and if too warm then mould is promoted...depending on the ambient temp of your house/actual grow-room you should be fine without them.. You could test it now! Fill one of the DWC containers with tap water leave it in the cab over night and then use a water proofed thermometer to give you a reading of the water temp.... (Between 15oC & 20oC) - Is perfect But any lower than 15oC and you'll be better off with the small tank heaters.

Do the test and let me know the outcome :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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BudBaby

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Well i was thinking that i was gonna have the lights on all through the night, i can drop to about 14 through the night in there but thats only on very very cold night, the room im using used to be a brewery so i know aprox what the temps are. When its mega cold i used to put on a small heater in the room which kept it at about 18, 20 was optimal for beer you see so 18 was close enough.

Im thinking with the lights on there bound to produce a little bit of heat and with my small heater for really cold spells i rekon i can keep it between 15-20 in there no problem.

Im gonna get holes cut and rest of fat mat done tomorrow hopefully then Thursday i can fit the top hats and bend.

How are we gonna do the airlines for the pump mate? I will still having both pumps pushing air to all buckets?
 
stelthy

stelthy

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BudBaby said:
Well i was thinking that i was gonna have the lights on all through the night, i can drop to about 14 through the night in there but thats only on very very cold night, the room im using used to be a brewery so i know aprox what the temps are. When its mega cold i used to put on a small heater in the room which kept it at about 18, 20 was optimal for beer you see so 18 was close enough.

Im thinking with the lights on there bound to produce a little bit of heat and with my small heater for really cold spells i rekon i can keep it between 15-20 in there no problem.

Im gonna get holes cut and rest of fat mat done tomorrow hopefully then Thursday i can fit the top hats and bend.

How are we gonna do the airlines for the pump mate? I will still having both pumps pushing air to all buckets?
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I will Draw up a diagram of how to install the air lines next :) ...Its pretty easy and all we'll need to do after is get some PVC/Plastic trunking to tidy the lines etc...Aside from that your temps in the DWC pots should be fine - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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