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BudBaby

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Good news mate, i got the soundproof tiles this morning, i can just about fit 3 under my pump. This helped the noise alot but it was still a bit much then i remembered you said it would be less noisey when connected. I tried fitting the black rubber nossel thing on it and the 8 way manifold and turned it on again.

Obvioulsy because it wasnt connected to any tubing there was a loud hissing sound but hardly any noise at all from the pump itself so im guessing when its all connected up it will be virtually silent:) Saved me having to build a box aswell.

Im also still thinking about whether to use 2 pumps on 8 buckets or 1 pump per 4 buckets. I understand what your saying about if a pump fails but im wondering if a pump did fail how long would i have to put it right before the plants drowned? Just thinking it would be alot easier to use 1 pump per 4 buckets. These pumps are really good quality.
 
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stelthy

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BudBaby said:
Cheers dude.

Thinking about it this accoustic tiling is 40mm thick so i wouldnt fit a 10" box in there as i only have approx 10" height in the whole cab, ill take some measurments tomorrow.

I also wondered if a carboard box would have the desired effect? Similar to how you use one for a fan but lined with tiles instead of filled with foam? Would be quick and easy and as long as it does the job?
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I doubt that a card'board box will baffle the sound all that much...But there's no harm in trying :) Let me know how that goes :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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BudBaby said:
Coupler was no good mate, was the same size as the bend and top hat which is useless to me lol. I thought it would just slot inside:(
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Hmm?? They are suppose to just slot together. Bummer :( Have you tried modding it/them to fit? - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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Ive got my bungees mate, i think one will be fine for the one side and the other side closer to the side of the cab ill need a shore one.

Another thing ive noticed is they will work to support the fane but ill have to hang then round the 4" intake hole which means any real movement and it will fall off so i was thinking of hanging the fane with some sea fishing line and using the bungees to support the weight of the fan, what do you think?
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The bungee's should be fine on their own.. try different ways of wrapping them around the fan/s to secure them and cradle the fans in place - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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stelthy

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BudBaby said:
I should have taken more pics really but i always forget to take them while im actually doing something to the cabs so dont remember until after its done. My grow journal will have alot more pics in it. I cant believe ive got this far to be honest ive nver done anything like this before and im not usually good at diy!
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More pics the merrier :) I know what you mean though when you really get into doing summink, the snap shots are the last thing we think about lol :) Well you and your sis, seem very capable at DIY at the mo, I'll keep my fingers crossed that the rest of the jobs go as smoothly - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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BudBaby said:
I'm thinking if I do use some fish line I could leave a bit of slack in them so they would just be there as a safety net.
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I like the idea of the safty net, but try n make sure the fans are securly in place with the bungee's then the safty net will be purely piece of mind :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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BudBaby said:
The bend and top hat have bonded quite nicely so im pleased about that, ive just slapped another load of no nails on it to fill in any gaps then when thats dry tomorrow ill rub silicone all over it to be double safe.

I noticed though that the no nails isnt weather proof which im guessing means its not mould resistant so im hoping its ok for the top cabs but ill have to find something else for the bottom cabs as i dont want mould in there.
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Sounds like your doing a good job :) Yeah try n find an alternative sealant for the lower cab/s. Your right mould is the last thing you'll want expecially down with the ladies - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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stelthy

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BudBaby said:
Good news mate, i got the soundproof tiles this morning, i can just about fit 3 under my pump. This helped the noise alot but it was still a bit much then i remembered you said it would be less noisey when connected. I tried fitting the black rubber nossel thing on it and the 8 way manifold and turned it on again.

Obvioulsy because it wasnt connected to any tubing there was a loud hissing sound but hardly any noise at all from the pump itself so im guessing when its all connected up it will be virtually silent:) Saved me having to build a box aswell.

Im also still thinking about whether to use 2 pumps on 8 buckets or 1 pump per 4 buckets. I understand what your saying about if a pump fails but im wondering if a pump did fail how long would i have to put it right before the plants drowned? Just thinking it would be alot easier to use 1 pump per 4 buckets. These pumps are really good quality.
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Yeah when its all set up and the air-lines execute in the DWC tubs the pump will give a mild hum and thats much easier to live with..I haven't had time to upload the pump pic for you yet...So I'll do that next :) I'd defo go with 2 pumps to 8 pots.. If a pump fails the ladies can drown in anything from a couple of hours+ ....... (not worth the risk!)

I'll upload the pic next, this is defo the best way to do it :) tried n tested methods everytime :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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BudBaby

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Ok mate thats great. Ive just modded the second flange so ill have that bend fitted on there tomorrow, the other one now has 2 coats of no nails and a load of silicone so hopefully ill get that fitted tomorrow.

Not much more to do now, im itching like mad to get started. The only thing that concerns me is cutting the other 5 holes in the bottom cabs but im sure if i take my time ill be fine.

Ive just ordered the second pump, barring seeds and thermometers i forgot and digi testing probes im hoping i wont have to spend anymore cash lol.
 
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stelthy said:
Sounds like your doing a good job :) Yeah try n find an alternative sealant for the lower cab/s. Your right mould is the last thing you'll want expecially down with the ladies - STELTHY :leaf:[/QUOTE


I think what I will do for the lower cab bends is wrap them in foil tape so they fit fairly tightly the put plenty of mould resistant sealent round them to make it air tight.

Do the top of the top cabs need any holes drilled In them to let the filters breath? Let me know and I can get that done and I can then bolt the top cabs onto the main cabs.
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BudBaby

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Ive been having a think mate. If i can get the misses to give me and my sister a chuck i rekon we can move the cabs out about 3-4" so would it be ok to go back to the original plan for the bottom cabs?

I just dont think this drill is up to another 5 holes plus if i can increase the gap at the side it will make things easier. What do you think?
 
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stelthy

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BudBaby said:
Ok mate thats great. Ive just modded the second flange so ill have that bend fitted on there tomorrow, the other one now has 2 coats of no nails and a load of silicone so hopefully ill get that fitted tomorrow.

Not much more to do now, im itching like mad to get started. The only thing that concerns me is cutting the other 5 holes in the bottom cabs but im sure if i take my time ill be fine.

Ive just ordered the second pump, barring seeds and thermometers i forgot and digi testing probes im hoping i wont have to spend anymore cash lol.
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Yeah dude, you should be fine just take your time and drill carefully. Its going to be a great day when the lights turn on and the ladies are on stage ready to perform :) :) :) lol... Where are you planning on getting your seeds from?? - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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BudBaby said:
stelthy said:
Sounds like your doing a good job :) Yeah try n find an alternative sealant for the lower cab/s. Your right mould is the last thing you'll want expecially down with the ladies - STELTHY :leaf:[/QUOTE


I think what I will do for the lower cab bends is wrap them in foil tape so they fit fairly tightly the put plenty of mould resistant sealent round them to make it air tight.

Do the top of the top cabs need any holes drilled In them to let the filters breath? Let me know and I can get that done and I can then bolt the top cabs onto the main cabs.
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Yeah that sounds like a good idea :) the more air tight the better the performance! Yes! The tops of each unit need some holes you could either drill 100X 6mm holes in the area directly above where the carbon filter sits, or you could cut out a 15" approx circlular shape in the same location and then do as I did and simply cover the void with a metal speaker grill from Maplin Electronics on-line... its up to you what way you wanna go with this ... I am still yet to upload my other airline pic for you so I'll do some pics of the possible hole exits in the top of the cabs and post em' all together - STELTHY :leaf:
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stelthy

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BudBaby said:
Ive been having a think mate. If i can get the misses to give me and my sister a chuck i rekon we can move the cabs out about 3-4" so would it be ok to go back to the original plan for the bottom cabs?

I just dont think this drill is up to another 5 holes plus if i can increase the gap at the side it will make things easier. What do you think?
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If you can get her to help y'all move the cab then by all means go for it :) a 4" Gap would be great and would also allow enough room for you to cover the out side cut circle to be covered with a circular vent cover..which in turn will help to keep your unit 'Stealth' :) If you's can move the cab that will be a lot easier than the 5 holes and save you alot of hassle :) So I think that's a great idea - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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BudBaby

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Top cabs all lined :) I found a couple of big hook things so im having a mess about with the fan now, does it have to be directly underneath the flange or does it matter if its slightly to one side? I cant see it being a problem because its not like the ducting will have a kink in it or anything.
 
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I think we have cracked it mate, picture below. Ive rocked it a bit and i dont think its going anywhere but when i finally fit it properly ill just add a bit of silver tape to where the bungee is making contact with the fan, this along with the fishing line will give me great peace of mind.

Ive decided also for the 2 x bottom cab holes to do them by hand with a hacksaw, ill do them slightly smaller than i require then file to a snug fit size. I just dont trust that drill and the fact it isnt mine is also concerning me lmao as i dont want to fork out for a new one. Plus i will need the holes fairly close to the hinges of one door so dont think ill take the risk with the hole saw incase i split the wood or something.

Now im starting to fit things into the cab its finally like im actually getting somewhere, i prey i can get it all done next week and hopefully all being well get the seeds the start of the week after.

The only thing that bothers me at the moment is what the temp is gonna be like in the cabs as i cant see this light giving off much heat at all. I wont know though until i do a test run.

As the top cabs are so high and deep i can just cut out a small section or a large hole to let it breath, or a series of small holes and they wont need covering because you cant see them:)

For the bottom cab holes do i need a top hat then a bend or can i if i get the holes snug enough just use the bend and stick it out of the side of the cab a bit?
 

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BudBaby

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I was gonna aske also mate how many times a week do you think these buckets will need topping up? I would imagine different strains would use different amounts of nutes but have you an approx ball park figure. I think when the ladies are in the pots i will be able to get apporx 18 ltrs of liquid in there maybe 20 at a push.
 
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BudBaby said:
Top cabs all lined :) I found a couple of big hook things so im having a mess about with the fan now, does it have to be directly underneath the flange or does it matter if its slightly to one side? I cant see it being a problem because its not like the ducting will have a kink in it or anything.
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Excellent, glad the top cabs are lined :) it doesn't have to be in line with the flange..But it does help :) its not a major prob if you cant, cos you will still have a good negative pressure clearing both heat and smell :) Let me know what you decide to do :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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BudBaby said:
I think we have cracked it mate, picture below. Ive rocked it a bit and i dont think its going anywhere but when i finally fit it properly ill just add a bit of silver tape to where the bungee is making contact with the fan, this along with the fishing line will give me great peace of mind.

Ive decided also for the 2 x bottom cab holes to do them by hand with a hacksaw, ill do them slightly smaller than i require then file to a snug fit size. I just dont trust that drill and the fact it isnt mine is also concerning me lmao as i dont want to fork out for a new one. Plus i will need the holes fairly close to the hinges of one door so dont think ill take the risk with the hole saw incase i split the wood or something.

Now im starting to fit things into the cab its finally like im actually getting somewhere, i prey i can get it all done next week and hopefully all being well get the seeds the start of the week after.

The only thing that bothers me at the moment is what the temp is gonna be like in the cabs as i cant see this light giving off much heat at all. I wont know though until i do a test run.

As the top cabs are so high and deep i can just cut out a small section or a large hole to let it breath, or a series of small holes and they wont need covering because you cant see them:)

For the bottom cab holes do i need a top hat then a bend or can i if i get the holes snug enough just use the bend and stick it out of the side of the cab a bit?
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If your happier using a small handsaw..go with your instinct...its a killer when you break summink thats not urs, then have to explain to its owner what you did lol....I can see that :) Sounds like you have these holes sorted...just take your time and cut carefully... Your right! you defo don't wanna split the cab.

Sounds exciting I hope you stay up late and work ur ass off lol :) I look forward to reading the journal....Are you going to document the 1st grow with these cabs in this thread? or start a new one for that?

Its best to do a test run...there's plenty of ways to increase the heat, and a few options for cooling...but a testrun is the only way to gain complete control :)

I'd drill 50 - 100 6mm holes over the carbon filter area...........still try to do it as neatly as possible :) because we'll still want to cover the holes you make up top with a couple of cheap bath towels and staple gun them in place... This will quieten the air flow helping to maintain the stealth eliment.

I'am glad you asked... if the thickness of your cab/s allow it just use the bend with no top-hat, and as you've said make the hole a tight snug fit! and just smear some sealant around the in and outside of the bend going through the cab...Its exactly what I did and it works flawlessly :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 
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