Stealth Cabinets

H dude... don't cut anything yet! I am uploading pics as I type [The bends don't go through the shelf that's what we need the flanges for then diagram will make this clearer bare with me - STELTHY

Ok mate cheers i get what you mean. Ill be back in a while to have a butchers.

If you connect all the relivent bits of equipment together 1st then you'll know where to place your flanges... Place the equitment as far back as possible and draw around the inside of the flanges ... If the carbon filter and bend fit snuggly into you flange and there is space ..say 2" from the back and inside edge then thats pretty much where the hole should be made.

Double check your measurements with your sister and when your both 100% happy, start the drilling

When fitting the flanges you'll need to drill 4 holes in each one so you can screw them in place NOTE: It helps to put bathroom sealent etc under the flanges in a circle inline with the screws..This will ensure no air excapes (Allow to dry before proceeding further).

You may need to make a makeshift stand out of mdf to hold your carbon filter level.. with the bend.. If so look on my thread I've shown how I made my one..Just copy that and adjust it according to size/scale etc

Once the flanges are installed and all your equiptment is in place use silver duct-tape (aluminium tape) to seal/hold all your connections.. use alot but try n be as tidy as possible.

I think that just about covers everything Sorry I've taken a while getting back to you on this my daughters have been ill and I've been back n forth from the doctors and my wifes been stressing about other stuff lol, so its been hectic..Still I think we're back to normal now - Thank fuck .

Hope the pic helps a bit - STELTHY




PS/ We'll most likely use bunjee cords on the in-line fans to hold the up in place and also this will reduce vibrations and noise

Cgeers mate that makes sense. With the fane stands though im gonna have to fix the fan to the sides of the cab but they will still be a gap there if you get me.

I can get my sister to climb right not the cab to fit the bend. Ive been thinking though for accessability could i have the ben so the opening was facing the front of the cab then fit the filter comming towards me this at least would give me a way of getting to it incase i need to and my sis isnt around? Not sure if its possible to attatch some ducting from the bend to the filter to allow me to bring the filter closer to the front of the cabs?

BudBaby said:

Cgeers mate that makes sense. With the fane stands though im gonna have to fix the fan to the sides of the cab but they will still be a gap there if you get me.

I can get my sister to climb right not the cab to fit the bend. Ive been thinking though for accessability could i have the ben so the opening was facing the front of the cab then fit the filter comming towards me this at least would give me a way of getting to it incase i need to and my sis isnt around? Not sure if its possible to attatch some ducting from the bend to the filter to allow me to bring the filter closer to the front of the cabs?

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Yeah thats cool...attach the fan with the stand to the back of the cab where you need it positioned. Then use bungee cords to support the weight of it/them, i'll draw another diagram but basicaly you just need to cross them over The pic will illustrate this more clearly

Will the filter fit if you have it in-line facing you? .. If so by all means go for it It may even work out better and give you more storage space !! As long as you keep the ducting as short as possible with minimal curves (bends in it) I see no reason why you cannot add ducting between the bend and the carbon filter.. play around with it and keep me updated with pics as you go

I look forward to seeing hard work turn good results - STELTHY

So in the top cab we have : Carbon Filter > Bend > Flange > Hole through top and middle cabs...

then, In the middle cab we have : Flange > Ducting > In-line Fan..



NOTE:


* Mount some kind of foam behind/under the in-line fans mounting bracket against the back wall of the cab ie/ either camping mat, or sofa foam...actually go with camp mat..its easier to clean, and more compact and less prone to pests.. By doing this you will reduce the vibration/noise produced by the in-line fan as well as keeping the grow safe from build up of bacteria and or bugs etc





Once again hope this helps any questions ; Fire away - STELTHY




PS/ Good luck I look forward to seeing pics - STELTHY

Ok mate thanks for that. Its probably gonna be monday or tuesday next week now when i do all the drilling, think its better to wait till i have the flanges etc.

Im gonna get a list done of what i need as i may aswell get the nutes too as its the same place plus i get 10% discount over £300, i can pay cash also into there bank which makes things better for me.

Ill get cracking on my list later and double check with you i havent missed anything.

BudBaby said:

Ok mate thanks for that. Its probably gonna be monday or tuesday next week now when i do all the drilling, think its better to wait till i have the flanges etc.

Im gonna get a list done of what i need as i may aswell get the nutes too as its the same place plus i get 10% discount over £300, i can pay cash also into there bank which makes things better for me.

Ill get cracking on my list later and double check with you i havent missed anything.

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Excellent looks like we're making good progress - STELTHY

Yes we are mate, its a bit of a pain because my sis can only get here now and again so it is dragging on a bit but i think as soon as the fans and filters are in place ill be nearly done

Did you say i needed to order some extensions for fitting the internal bends mate? Im sure you said we would need them so let me know and ill add them to the list.

Regarding the fan, would i be able to fit it to the side ot the cabs as apposed to the backs? I only ask because my neighbours bedroom is right behind the cabs. Also ive been thinking about what you said about mounting the fans on a bit of foam, well i will prob need another 10 sq ft of fat mat so ill have a bit spare, could i use a small piece of this behind the fan stand?

BudBaby said:

Did you say i needed to order some extensions for fitting the internal bends mate? Im sure you said we would need them so let me know and ill add them to the list.

Regarding the fan, would i be able to fit it to the side ot the cabs as apposed to the backs? I only ask because my neighbours bedroom is right behind the cabs. Also ive been thinking about what you said about mounting the fans on a bit of foam, well i will prob need another 10 sq ft of fat mat so ill have a bit spare, could i use a small piece of this behind the fan stand?

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Hi dude, OMG I've been so wasted the last couple of days!!! I went out Friday night just for a few pints and a burger...What actually happened is I had 7 pints of Stella went to another pub...Had 6 or 7 pints of ale.. and a few chasers.. then went out with a few pub randoms and passed a fat joint round, got in a car........ended up down the beach in an abandoned shed.. smoked some more Haze... shared a bottle of neat scotch done a couple of lines went to a different pub and threw up downed some aftershock and ended up walking home at 3am in the morning...I was somewhere, where ...I dont know just lost lol and feeling hammered! I slept most of Saturday and am feeling fragile but more ok today. Phew! lol had to tell someone just how crazy that night was

Anyway...............

Looking at the setup how we have it I think 'Think' were ok with out extensions I mean if in doubt you could get 2 or even 4 if they dont cost to much... But I don't think we'll need them yet....If at all? !!

You should be able to mount the fan on the side...But saying that you'd be better off not mounting it to the back or side !! ... Just suspend it via the crossed bungee cables.. The fans wont weigh that much and the bungees take all the vibration/noise away... You'll just need 4 white plastic covered cup hooks screwed into each of the top of the middle cabs, attach the fan with the bungee's an voila job done

And since the fans no longer need to be mounted...You no longer require the foam so thats easier all round, saves you some time and effort and keeps noise down so your neighbour will be non the wiser

What do you think? - STELTHY

Sounds great mate and easier Will anything do to support them or is there something in particular i need to order? I was thinking the elastic things you use to secure stuff on roof racks etc but i may have totally the wrong thing.

Will be alot easier like this as i can just drill the holes for the ducting and then sort the fan out after and make sure it inline etc.

Sounds like you had a good session lol, i had to quit drinking the end of last year as i found once i started i couldnt stop lol so just the smoke for me now. I dont use anything else when im not drinking but when i was i was up for anything, got myself in trouble many times over the years lol.

BudBaby said:

Right i know i need the following for the veg stage, plus the hammerhead 9/18 which ill get from somewhere else. Added to this i need 4 x 4" flanges and 8 prs of hanging bungees. Can you let me know what i need for flowering aswell mate, just the canna stuff for now as i can get it all off the one site and may aswell take advantage of the discount. I think we have hard water here so ill get the veg hard water product.

If you can also let me know any other bits i can get from that site ill get them now. Was thinking maybe some thermomenters and humidity gauges things and a ph tester? Will i need just ph - or shall i get a bottle of ph+ aswell?



Canna Start 5L

Canna Hydro Vega 5L

Canna Rhyzotonic 5L

Superthrive 1L


Canna Cannazym 5L

PH Down (liquid - 1L)

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For Flowering.. You'll need :-

* Canna Hydro Florez A+B 5L
* Cha-Ching
* Hammerhead 9/18
* Canna Boost
* 10 Pippets
* PH test kit (from start to finish: Veg to Flower)

You can flush with PH balanced tap water but I've always used 'Dry Flower 4'

And thats pretty much all you'll need to get started


Erm....... You could also get all of these :-

* 8X small fish tank heaters 4 per cab (for the res tubs) to keep the res temps at 20oC
* 2X digital thermometer/hygrometer/humidity
* You'll need a PH test and some PH down (Phosphorus acid) be careful this stuff is ultra corrosive
* No real need for PH up as Ph can be raised by just adding more tap water
* EC meter (EC Nutrient Wand) to measure food content in the res and some other stuff
* Heavy duty sissors
* Egg flipper to stir nuitrient

* oh and you'll need a large tub to mix up your nuitrient water in and a syphon pump to transfer from the tub to each of your res pots. The tub should be able to hold the quantity of 4 of the grow pots plus a couple 10-20L extra to avoid spillage etc

I would say get a couple of ONA spray wall mounted air freshners for flowering period.. They are made from natural plant extracts but 100% nutralize Bud smell so very VERY worth having I have to tubs in my house and it just smells like fresh clothes (fresh linin)

I am pretty certain this is all you'll need for now

I'll work out a design for the lower cabs and the intakes and add what you'll need to get to get that job sorted too - STELTHY

BudBaby said:

Sounds great mate and easier Will anything do to support them or is there something in particular i need to order? I was thinking the elastic things you use to secure stuff on roof racks etc but i may have totally the wrong thing.

Will be alot easier like this as i can just drill the holes for the ducting and then sort the fan out after and make sure it inline etc.

Sounds like you had a good session lol, i had to quit drinking the end of last year as i found once i started i couldnt stop lol so just the smoke for me now. I dont use anything else when im not drinking but when i was i was up for anything, got myself in trouble many times over the years lol.

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I think they are Bungee cords... I'll try n find a LINK in a bit I think we're both talking about the same things but I ll post the LINK to be certain!
Yeah that'll defo make things alot easier!

Yeah man I know what you mean...I start of with good intentions and then I get SO SO wasted and cant stop...Even when I am paraletic I'll still have one more lol Oh well Part of being a bloke I guess lol Yeah I dont touch anything but the occasional King L when sober?...(not drinking) but then once drunk I am like the spawn of Satan lol... I'll drink,smoke,do lines go to strip bars play poker...the list is endless... I never cheat on my wife though I think thats the one good thing thats kinda programed into me I can do anything just not that so hopefully my Key to heavens door won't be revoked lol - STELTHY

I was also thinking that your cabs would be perfect for running a Co2 setup... But I recommend getting your 1st grow done, then when you know what your doing then add in the Co2 I can show you via LINKS etc.. but would like to see the cabs finished 1st then we can get some 'beans' in there.
Have you bought/decided what seeds and whether Indica or Sativa you'll be growing? - STELTHY

As with the pics... they vary in size you may be as well to measure how long they'll need to be *Remembering they stretch I gotta go out now but I'll add the LINK when I get home again - STELTHY

stelthy said:

I was also thinking that your cabs would be perfect for running a Co2 setup... But I recommend getting your 1st grow done, then when you know what your doing then add in the Co2 I can show you via LINKS etc.. but would like to see the cabs finished 1st then we can get some 'beans' in there.
Have you bought/decided what seeds and whether Indica or Sativa you'll be growing? - STELTHY

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I was thinking of Greenhouse Seeds super Lemon haze and Homegrown Fantaseeds Armageddon. Armageddon should be finished about a week before the haze so will work out well.

I pretty much know what to get now as regards to thge ducting its just 4 x 4" top hats, i was thinking about using heavy duty cable ties instead of jubilee clips, let me know what you think.

Regarding nutes, when you say Flores A + B do you mean this http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/Plant-Nutrition-90/Canna-Products-233/Canna-Original-Substra--815.asp it just says flores S/W or H/W? I think i have hard water so ill go for the H/W, doesnt say anything about A + B though? Canna Substra is the old name for hydro by the way its def the right stuff.

I was thinking for mixing nutes to use a container big enough for 2 pots at a time if that would work out, if i did it for all 4 it would weigh a ton as that would be 100ltrs + of water. let me have your thoughts on that, ill get a big homebrew bucket and the paddles will be perfect too for mixing my nutes lol.

Get back to me when you have a minute mate and ill finalise my list and then go down town Tuesday to pay for it all and hopefully ill have it wednesday.

Now im not having to be so exact with positioning the fan hole i can get on with doing that and get the rest of the top cabs lined.

What do you think of this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ZD-NUTRIENT-TRUNCHEON-METER-HYDROPONICS-WAND-EC-PPM-CF-/260614926262?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PlantsSeedsBulbs_JN&hash=item3caddc2fb6


Seems cheap and feedback is good on the seller.

Are these good enough for my needs mate or do i need something more accurate, if these are ok many kits shall i order?

http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/Plant-Nutrition-90/Nutrient-Management-397/Budget-pH-Test-Kits-868.asp