Report: All Major Oil Companies Knew of Climate Change by 1970s

Can't wait to hear everyone crying about how hot it is next summer.

Yep, keep letting that Ford F350 Super Duty 6.1 liter turbo diesel warm up for an hour every day, so you can drive it twelve miles to work on paved roads while hauling nothing more massive than your fat ass.

We humans are stupid. We let leaders lie to us and destroy our future so THEY can make more money at your expense.

Gotta love the right wing nuts.

Merry July in Christmas!

Hot summers, fuck yeah. The hotter the better.

My Excursion is built on the F250 and has a 6.8l V10. The only fat thing that rides in my truck is my wallet.

"We liberals are stupid. We let leaders lie to us and destroy our future so THEY can make more money at your expense."

In two sentences you just summed up the entire MMGW movement/scam.

Well done.
 
What planet are you from ???
Northerners accustomed to cozying up to a fire in a bulky sweater with a mug of hot chocolate may have to open the windows on Christmas. You mention no recording breaking ????

Well Record-shattering temperatures in the 60s and 70s settled over the Northeast on Christmas Eve, allowing many people to trade coats and scarves for shorts and T-shirts and go jogging and golfing. Some announced plans to grill steaks in the backyard instead of putting a Christmas ham in the oven.
Depending on whom you asked, the weather outside was either frightful or delightful.

While the Rockies and the Pacific Northwest have been getting heavy rain and snow, and the South has been hit by deadly tornadoes, much of the East Coast is in for balmy, springlike weather over the next few days.
The weather forced some traditional winter destinations to improvise. In the Adirondack Mountain village of Lake Placid, New York, home of the 1980 Winter Olympics, free golf was added to the list of holiday activities, and snow was trucked in so that people could go sledding.

Without the usual winter wonderland, some people clung to tradition to get in the mood.

Yup and you say for the better ???? bottom line to say nothing is happening and i am not saying that we are the cause but we are to some degree ,,
You never answered my question, does your (moms) house run completely off the grid?
 

June-Nov 2015 were the hottest on record, and Christmas on the eastern seaboard will be warmer than the 4th of July

Feel free to try explaining that one


http://gizmodo.com/9-maps-that-show-how-completely-bizarre-your-christmas-1749490826

How did the previous record set in 1898 happen? Was there lots of global warming then too? You seem to think that every heat record has some kind of nefarious beginning started by humans.
How were all those previous records set if it wasn't global warming?
 
How did the previous record set in 1898 happen? Was there lots of global warming then too? You seem to think that every heat record has some kind of nefarious beginning started by humans.
How were all those previous records set if it wasn't global warming?

Don't bother ND. Introducing logic to an Eco-Loon is like trying to convince a Christian that their imaginary deity doesn't exist. This shit is a religion to these naive zealots. Sit back, smoke a bowl and watch the circus. From what I've read, you, like myself, can survive the financial fallout if they get their wishlist of legislation. Watching the masses revolt against them, due to the staggering increases in gas, energy and every product that they buy, will be hilarious.
 
"We liberals are stupid. We let leaders lie to us and destroy our future so THEY can make more money at your expense."

In two sentences you just summed up the entire MMGW movement/scam.

Well done.

so you believe in the david duke conspiracy theory too?

good little klanman.
 
Don't bother ND. Introducing logic to an Eco-Loon is like trying to convince a Christian that their imaginary deity doesn't exist. This shit is a religion to these naive zealots. Sit back, smoke a bowl and watch the circus. From what I've read, you, like myself, can survive the financial fallout if they get their wishlist of legislation. Watching the masses revolt against them, due to the staggering increases in gas, energy and every product that they buy, will be hilarious.

you predicted that under obama, the cost of energy and gas would "necessarily skyrocket".

i just paid $1.60 a gallon.

nothing you ever say is right, ever.

if you say it, i can guarantee it is wrong. every time.
 
you predicted that under obama, the cost of energy and gas would "necessarily skyrocket".

i just paid $1.60 a gallon.

nothing you ever say is right, ever.

if you say it, i can guarantee it is wrong. every time.

Such people are highly reliable; listen to them carefully and then do the opposite of what they say!

It seems there are a lot of those people here...
 
"necessarily skyrocketing" energy prices

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WOOOOOOOOPS
 
How did the previous record set in 1898 happen?
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You're mistaken


What natural event caused this increase in temperature in ~130 years?

Science says C02, you disagree, so what was it? You don't get to just say "Not C02!".. OK, so it wasn't the C02 increase, so then.. what was it? What did this? Where's the cause?

Identify a cause then show me your work
 
"A new investigation by the Pulitzer Prize-winning outlet InsideClimate News suggests that nearly every major U.S. and multinational oil and gas company was aware of the impact of fossil fuels on climate change as early as the late 1970s. Earlier exposés by InsideClimate News and the Los Angeles Times have revealed that Exxon scientists knew about climate change as early as 1977, and for decades Exxon concealed its own findings that the burning of fossil fuels causes global warming, alters the climate and melts the Arctic ice. Now, internal documents obtained by InsideClimate News reveal that the entire oil and gas industry had similar knowledge. From 1979 to 1983, the oil and gas industry trade group American Petroleum Institute ran a task force to monitor and share climate research. The group’s members included senior scientists and engineers from not only Exxon, but also Amoco, Phillips, Mobil, Texaco, Shell, Sunoco, Sohio and Standard Oil of California and Gulf Oil, the predecessors to Chevron. The documents show that as early as 1979, the task force knew carbon dioxide in the atmosphere was rising steadily. The task force even briefly considered researching how to introduce a new energy source into the global market, given the research about fossil fuels’ impact on global warming. But in 1983, the task force was disbanded, and by the late 1990s, the American Petroleum Institute had launched a campaign to oppose the Kyoto Protocol, which was adopted by many countries to cut fossil fuel emissions but was never ratified by the United States."

http://www.democracynow.org/2015/12...oil_companies_knew_of_climate_change_by_1970s


How much was spent to study and come out with this misleading study ?

It was well known to all that the burning of fossil fuels caused pollution. The reason they didn`t call it a breath of fresh air is because of damage it will cause.

Polluting the air, no matter how or where was given that definition for the same reason every time. even today we know that air pollution isn`t because the tide goes in and out, it`s because the air will change it`s properties (pollution). All leads to the same conclusion, well before the teens and twenties,.....

The deal in the seventies that was kept on the low was that the time frame was drawing near, not that it was accurately predicted and scientifically proven.

Now we are on the other side of center, but many moons to go before we die daily from it.
 
How much was spent to study and come out with this misleading study ?

It was well known to all that the burning of fossil fuels caused pollution. The reason they didn`t call it a breath of fresh air is because of damage it will cause.

Polluting the air, no matter how or where was given that definition for the same reason every time. even today we know that air pollution isn`t because the tide goes in and out, it`s because the air will change it`s properties (pollution). All leads to the same conclusion, well before the teens and twenties,.....

The deal in the seventies that was kept on the low was that the time frame was drawing near, not that it was accurately predicted and scientifically proven.

Now we are on the other side of center, but many moons to go before we die daily from it.
Reread what you wrote and ask yourself if this is the best, most concise way to express your opinion

I'm positive I'm not the only one with this opinion, I'm not interested in reading jumbled incoherent ramblings that resemble Navajo dialogue. I've skipped your posts for the past couple months because of this.

Again, just my opinion, but you really need to work on this.
 
Reread what you wrote and ask yourself if this is the best, most concise way to express your opinion

I'm positive I'm not the only one with this opinion, I'm not interested in reading jumbled incoherent ramblings that resemble Navajo dialogue. I've skipped your posts for the past couple months because of this.

Again, just my opinion, but you really need to work on this.

you really should talk to london fog on the same topic
 
Pada Do you not believe we,are not to blame for any of it ??? I look at earth as a web one string snaps its effects everything
 
Pada Do you not believe we,are not to blame for any of it ??? I look at earth as a web one string snaps its effects everything
There are both natural and anthropogenic factors that affect the climate, of course

The problem with the natural argument when looking at the period between 1880-present is that there is no known naturally occurring variable that can explain the rate of change we've observed today. Natural variations occur over thousands of years, not hundreds. This change has taken place over the course of 135 years.

I would guess natural v. anthropogenic variables are around 10/90 for the current warming trend
 
Well i look at some indicators for one when oil started getting pumped out of the ground the increase in volcanic eruptions , Earthquakes there is no doubt According to the EM-DAT, the total natural disasters reported each year has been steadily increasing in recent decades, from 78 in 1970 to 348 in 2004. what could be causing this ??? sure we can say well its natural, and we also can say well with the amount of sinkholes , mud slides do to man destruction lumber business major cause of mud slides has anyone ever wondered what a full grown spruce tree drinks in one year as in volume of water ???? now remove 1000's of trees from a area ???
Where does the underground water go now ???
When pumping oil out of the ground what fills up them empty porous rocks when all oil is taken ??
Now i have drilled injection wells, Fracking , etc pumping everything from steam to chemical to get what ever oil is remaining but this also creates pollution, as in H2S contaminting water and so on
to give you a idea cause many people tend to forget the mass in oil pumped out on a daily basis or even what the world uses in one day .. here we use three billion, five hundred and seventy million gallons of oil (3,570,000,000). DAILY and that is 3.billion 570 million barrels

Niagara falls has a flow rate of 150,000 U.S. gallons per second.

3,570,000,000 of oil / 150,000 gallons per second = 23,800 seconds of flow equivalent.

In other words, if by some horrific means you were able to replace the flow over niagara falls with nothing but oil for 6.6 hours a day, that’s how much oil the 6 billion inhabitants of the earth burn every single day of every year
puts a new meaning to everything i mean you think
 
Well i look at some indicators for one when oil started getting pumped out of the ground the increase in volcanic eruptions , Earthquakes there is no doubt According to the EM-DAT, the total natural disasters reported each year has been steadily increasing in recent decades, from 78 in 1970 to 348 in 2004. what could be causing this ??? sure we can say well its natural, and we also can say well with the amount of sinkholes , mud slides do to man destruction lumber business major cause of mud slides has anyone ever wondered what a full grown spruce tree drinks in one year as in volume of water ???? now remove 1000's of trees from a area ???
Where does the underground water go now ???
When pumping oil out of the ground what fills up them empty porous rocks when all oil is taken ??
Now i have drilled injection wells, Fracking , etc pumping everything from steam to chemical to get what ever oil is remaining but this also creates pollution, as in H2S contaminting water and so on
to give you a idea cause many people tend to forget the mass in oil pumped out on a daily basis or even what the world uses in one day .. here we use three billion, five hundred and seventy million gallons of oil (3,570,000,000). DAILY and that is 3.billion 570 million barrels

Niagara falls has a flow rate of 150,000 U.S. gallons per second.

3,570,000,000 of oil / 150,000 gallons per second = 23,800 seconds of flow equivalent.

In other words, if by some horrific means you were able to replace the flow over niagara falls with nothing but oil for 6.6 hours a day, that’s how much oil the 6 billion inhabitants of the earth burn every single day of every year
puts a new meaning to everything i mean you think
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6.6 hours of that, every day, in oil..

It's pretty amazing people still exist who believe that can't affect the planet..
 
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