Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

NickNasty

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Anyone have any experience with Black Gold Garden Compost? I'd like something to hold me over until VC bin is done. I've heard mixed reviews on Black Gold products and wanted some opinions. Thanks.
It was one of the better store bought composts in my area when I used it a few years ago. I have used it plenty in the past with good results.
 

Mohican

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I used their seed starter mix a few years ago. It was fine.

Cactus mix has almost the same composition as Vics. It is a fast draining mix and it has already been cooked. I bought it from a local nursery for my plumeria cutting. I was amazed when I read the ingredients.
 

DANKSWAG

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Anyone have any experience with Black Gold Garden Compost? I'd like something to hold me over until VC bin is done. I've heard mixed reviews on Black Gold products and wanted some opinions. Thanks.

Hey RCM...

I use the one with the mater on it, for seedlings (OMRI) It is supposed to be the consumer line of Roots Organic from what I read I could be wrong.

But it is nice for seedlings and clone starts! Could use a little more aeration, once I get my bulk rice hulls I will be substituting perlite with it.



DankSwag
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DANKSWAG

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Okay I threw caution to the compost pile and went for it.

What your are looking at are clones transplanted 2 days ago from solo cups into cloth soil pots that just had these four lovely gals harvested from them.
They have taken off and increased in size substantially. I also added to the root zone about 2 tsp of xtreme Mykos30. Hmm I have it on hand need to use it.
Seriously I plan on creating my own from composting Bokashi Style as soon as I get that going I can wait to use the latche from it.


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NOTE the top right clone took a serious blow to the two developing branches from a recent first topping in my mainline training program, apparently the Drill Sargent that day got a little too rough on the new recruit and mainline training turned into a supercropping resulting in an actual break in one developing branch. Hoping that branch in which will produce ultimately half of the 8 top I was going for. URGH. But I am happy to report for going through such stress it is bouncing back well and the training incident was a two days prior to transplant and wasn't looking so good as it does now.

Now for the big twist to all this. Because of how I am changing my PHOGS setup where these girls will go to flower I did not want to increase their overall soil container size using these one gallon cloth pots is all I found I really need for the size and duration of the perpetual grown.

So after cutting out the main branch and leaving as much of the root system that was attached I then yes tapped the side and tapped from the bottom the soil out in a single form. Now of course so of the top soil fell away. I also essentially tapped out some of the bottom soil layer and around the sides so I could reinsert intact root system with majority of soil attached to roots. This allowed me to fill the bottom third of these soil pots with fresh highly amended organic soil. I then placed this soil covered root ball back into container. I now was able to use my fingers to pull soil from middle to sides to allow clone transplant easily of course after I added the above mentioned mycro product. Then I placed some more fresh soil on top and watered with rain water. Also been misting leafs with rain water.

Hope I haven't violated or broken any ROLS code on this one. So anywise I will post posting on this. Was thinking of adding soluble from Myco Madness since I have it too.
Anywise appreciate any feedback on this. I need to know if I should grow comfrey, stinging nettle or find inexpensive sources? I hope to discover that I can make a mycro based tea that will kick ass over what I paid for (may moons ago) in the past!

DankSwag
Grow On My Friends Grow On
 

hyroot

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I think I like the mung bean sst more than barley sst. I see more growth the next day.. Thanks headtreep.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Well I know where to get yards of half composted leaves and grass clippings for a few bucks! Problem is it's still steaming. About to make some rice wash and ACT to spread things up a bit. Nice earthy texture, very dark, and smells "humussy" lol. Put some mostly broken down stuff in a solo cup to see how it drains and retains...I like it so far.
 

Shwagbag

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Okay I threw caution to the compost pile and went for it.

What your are looking at are clones transplanted 2 days ago from solo cups into cloth soil pots that just had these four lovely gals harvested from them.
They have taken off and increased in size substantially. I also added to the root zone about 2 tsp of xtreme Mykos30. Hmm I have it on hand need to use it.
Seriously I plan on creating my own from composting Bokashi Style as soon as I get that going I can wait to use the latche from it.


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NOTE the top right clone took a serious blow to the two developing branches from a recent first topping in my mainline training program, apparently the Drill Sargent that day got a little too rough on the new recruit and mainline training turned into a supercropping resulting in an actual break in one developing branch. Hoping that branch in which will produce ultimately half of the 8 top I was going for. URGH. But I am happy to report for going through such stress it is bouncing back well and the training incident was a two days prior to transplant and wasn't looking so good as it does now.

Now for the big twist to all this. Because of how I am changing my PHOGS setup where these girls will go to flower I did not want to increase their overall soil container size using these one gallon cloth pots is all I found I really need for the size and duration of the perpetual grown.

So after cutting out the main branch and leaving as much of the root system that was attached I then yes tapped the side and tapped from the bottom the soil out in a single form. Now of course so of the top soil fell away. I also essentially tapped out some of the bottom soil layer and around the sides so I could reinsert intact root system with majority of soil attached to roots. This allowed me to fill the bottom third of these soil pots with fresh highly amended organic soil. I then placed this soil covered root ball back into container. I now was able to use my fingers to pull soil from middle to sides to allow clone transplant easily of course after I added the above mentioned mycro product. Then I placed some more fresh soil on top and watered with rain water. Also been misting leafs with rain water.

Hope I haven't violated or broken any ROLS code on this one. So anywise I will post posting on this. Was thinking of adding soluble from Myco Madness since I have it too.
Anywise appreciate any feedback on this. I need to know if I should grow comfrey, stinging nettle or find inexpensive sources? I hope to discover that I can make a mycro based tea that will kick ass over what I paid for (may moons ago) in the past!

DankSwag
Grow On My Friends Grow On
Hey DankSwag, what kind of LED's are you using there homey?
 

DANKSWAG

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Hey DankSwag, what kind of LED's are you using there homey?
Yo Shwagbag

I flush that out in my PHOGS Journal, nonetheless the one I am using is as a veg light is under powered UFO but enough for what I need of it.

The LEDs I use in flower are Dorm Grow you will see those in my Journals. What is impressive is that four two foot plants of which only the top 8 inches allowed to flower produced nearly 3 ounces with an an LED that draws only 140 watts supplemented with two 15 watt bloom (red) spot light LEDs and two 15 watt CFL 2700k and one t5 20" at 2700k. Less then 200 watts combined in a 2x3 tent.

The ladies in the above post are the clones of the 4 gals that just went through my PHOGS journal, I will be taking clones of these as I mainline train them to continue my perpetual grow.

Oh yeah I have upgraded to the 450 BLOOM LED that draws 300 watt can't wait to swap out the 250 GROW (8 band) LED I am current using in flowering.

Just with any light I will continue to utilize spot and other supplemental lighting to ensure plants are fully lit up that there no areas where light is not penetrating.

DankSwag
Grow On My Friends Grow On
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Nothing like LED and organics. New school lighting with old school farming. BTW Dank, going to fabric store with daughter asap. Can't wait to post my Gucci fabric pots LMAO!

Does anyone know where to get 1/4"-3/8" lava rock?!
 

DANKSWAG

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Nothing like LED and organics. New school lighting with old school farming. BTW Dank, going to fabric store with daughter asap. Can't wait to post my Gucci fabric pots LMAO!

Does anyone know where to get 1/4"-3/8" lava rock?!
I was thinking custom ones for guys too, say charcoal cloth pots with stencil sprayed images in black and white colors, skull n cross bones, hazard material sign etc.... or even now that your looking at specific cloth patterns find some camouflage material that would be great! Cause for guys it has to be practical and Camo pots would have their use!
 

foreverflyhi

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Nothing like LED and organics. New school lighting with old school farming. BTW Dank, going to fabric store with daughter asap. Can't wait to post my Gucci fabric pots LMAO!

Does anyone know where to get 1/4"-3/8" lava rock?!
hahah I remember when led wasn't cool, now it seems like its the cool thing to do =)
 
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