POLL: Should rapist get the death penalty?

Should rape be punishable by death.

  • Yes (Make it a public event)

  • Yes

  • No


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Ace Yonder

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Why does it cost more to prosecute someone for murder in a death penalty case opposed to live in prison?
If they cost $90,000 a year more to house, How is it not cheaper to execute them? A piece of rope is less than $20 and it can be used multiple times.
Well, ya know, there is that thing called due process of law... you can't just execute people the second they are convicted. Do you know how many innocent people we would wind up killing if we never gave anyone the chance for appeals?
 

BamaBoyBeRolling

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Well, ya know, there is that thing called due process of law... you can't just execute people the second they are convicted. Do you know how many innocent people we would wind up killing if we never gave anyone the chance for appeals?
130 innocents would of been executed since 1976, I have no idea how long they where on death row.

Why does it cost more to prosecute someone for murder in a death penalty case opposed to live in prison?
If they cost $90,000 a year more to house, How is it not cheaper to execute them? A piece of rope is less than $20 and it can be used multiple times.
True I personally believe they inflated the price so much higher than it should be to keep those revolving doors spinning, keeping their cash cows living. Why would a prison be the slightest bit concerned in lowering crime they get paid to house inmates.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/04/28/how-for-profit-prisons-have-become-the-biggest-lobby-no-one-is-talking-about/
 
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Ace Yonder

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If a dog bites your child you take it out back and put it down. Same concept for rapist.
Uhhhh, not quite. If a dog bites my child, first i check to make sure that my child wasn't doing something stupid. If you pull a dogs tail, or hit it, or some other bullshit that poorly-parented kids do all the time, and get bit, I'm not gonna kill a dog for defending itself. Even if the kid wasn't fucking with the dog, my first course of action would always be retraining, I would never kill a dog because it bit someone once. Only a monster would do that, to punish a dog for the ineptitude of its owner.
 

BamaBoyBeRolling

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Uhhhh, not quite. If a dog bites my child, first i check to make sure that my child wasn't doing something stupid. If you pull a dogs tail, or hit it, or some other bullshit that poorly-parented kids do all the time, and get bit, I'm not gonna kill a dog for defending itself. Even if the kid wasn't fucking with the dog, my first course of action would always be retraining, I would never kill a dog because it bit someone once. Only a monster would do that, to punish a dog for the ineptitude of its owner.
I watch my pitbull get hit with a baseball bat by a 5 yr old and he just ran away like he should. I ran out their right away and started spanking some sense into that lil hellion. If it would of bit the child I would of put him down, a dog should be raised to never hurt or show any sort of aggression toward children.
 

ThickStemz

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DO EXECUTIONS LOWER HOMICIDE RATES?: THE VIEWS OF LEADING CRIMINOLOGISTS
(http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/DeterrenceStudy2009.pdf)
"The criminologists surveyed included -1) Fellows in the American Society of Criminology (ASC), (2) Winners of the ASC’s Sutherland Award, the highest award given by that organization for contributions to criminological theory, or (3) Presidents of the ASC between 1997 and the present. Those presidents before 1997 had been included in the prior survey. Respondents were asked to base their answers on existing empirical research, not their views on capital punishment.

Nearly 78% of those surveyed said that having the death penalty in a state does not lower the murder rate. In addition, 91% of respondents said politicians support the death penalty in order to appear tough on crime – and 75% said that it distracts legislatures on the state and national level from focusing on real solutions to crime problems. Over all, 94% agreed that there was little empirical evidence to support the deterrent effect of the death penalty. And 90% said the death penalty had little effect overall on the committing of murder. Additionally, 91.6% said that increasing the frequency of executions would not add a deterrent effect, and 87.6% said that speeding up executions wouldn't work either."
So the opinion of law enforcement is relevant? They can make statistics say whatever they want. My source is your source. You can let them tell you what the data mean, or you can read it for yourself.
 

Morbid Angel

Well-Known Member
I watch my pitbull get hit with a baseball bat by a 5 yr old and he just ran away like he should. I ran out their right away and started spanking some sense into that lil hellion. If it would of bit the child I would of put him down, a dog should be raised to never hurt or show any sort of aggression toward children.
all of that is fucked up. if You hit my kid over shit like that I'd put you in a hospital. enough of this bullshit. should not have replied to this thread. In closing, I am surprised and uplifted at the "NO" option leading 1.5x in this poll. Good for you RIU.
 

BamaBoyBeRolling

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all of that is fucked up. if You hit my kid over shit like that I'd put you in a hospital. enough of this bullshit. should not have replied to this thread. In closing, I am surprised and uplifted at the "NO" option leading 1.5x in this poll. Good for you RIU.
It was family friends kid I was babysitting, he even spanked him some more once he picked his kid up. I doubt it I would have some lead in your head before you knew it.
 

Ace Yonder

Well-Known Member
So the opinion of law enforcement is relevant? They can make statistics say whatever they want. My source is your source. You can let them tell you what the data mean, or you can read it for yourself.
Not law enforcement, Criminologists. Arguably the top Criminologists in the world.
 

Ace Yonder

Well-Known Member
I watch my pitbull get hit with a baseball bat by a 5 yr old and he just ran away like he should. I ran out their right away and started spanking some sense into that lil hellion. If it would of bit the child I would of put him down, a dog should be raised to never hurt or show any sort of aggression toward children.
A kid who gets spanked acts out by beating animals? What a surprise! Why would I expect anything other than that you are part of continuing a cycle of violence. You are fit to raise neither dogs nor children.
 

BamaBoyBeRolling

Well-Known Member
A kid who gets spanked acts out by beating animals? What a surprise! Why would I expect anything other than that you are part of continuing a cycle of violence. You are fit to raise neither dogs nor children.
For one he never as far as I know hit another dog. Shit I had it rough as a kid and I never harmed animals. That kids main source of punishment was to sit in the corner but seeing him do that to a dog meant he was going to get some corporal punishment. His parents both agreed.
 

UncleBuck

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For one he never as far as I know hit another dog. Shit I had it rough as a kid and I never harmed animals. That kids main source of punishment was to sit in the corner but seeing him do that to a dog meant he was going to get some corporal punishment. His parents both agreed.
congrats, you just put him at greater risk to perpetuate animal abuse.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/354017?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Abstract
The link between interpersonal violence and violence to animals has been suggested, but rarely studied empirically, especially by family scholars. This study of 267 college undergraduates examined the relationship between corporal punishment inflicted by parents and the perpetration of animal abuse. The findings revealed that males who committed animal cruelty in childhood or adolescence were physically punished more frequently by their fathers, both as preteens and teenagers, than males who did not perpetrate animal abuse. This relationship did not hold for males spanked by mothers or for females spanked by either parent. Regression analyses showed that the association between fathers' corporal punishment and sons' childhood animal cruelty persisted after controlling for child abuse, father-to-mother violence, and father's education. The implications of the association of animal abuse and family violence and its gendered nature are discussed.
 

BamaBoyBeRolling

Well-Known Member
congrats, you just put him at greater risk to perpetuate animal abuse.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/354017?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Abstract
The link between interpersonal violence and violence to animals has been suggested, but rarely studied empirically, especially by family scholars. This study of 267 college undergraduates examined the relationship between corporal punishment inflicted by parents and the perpetration of animal abuse. The findings revealed that males who committed animal cruelty in childhood or adolescence were physically punished more frequently by their fathers, both as preteens and teenagers, than males who did not perpetrate animal abuse. This relationship did not hold for males spanked by mothers or for females spanked by either parent. Regression analyses showed that the association between fathers' corporal punishment and sons' childhood animal cruelty persisted after controlling for child abuse, father-to-mother violence, and father's education. The implications of the association of animal abuse and family violence and its gendered nature are discussed.
The kid only received corporal punishment when fit, that was one of the moments that was fit for it. When I was growing up I was beat for the smallest of things yet I never harmed animals. The way I was raised is no way to raise a kid and I use that as a reference as what not to do when raising a kid.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
The kid only received corporal punishment when fit, that was one of the moments that was fit for it. When I was growing up I was beat for the smallest of things yet I never harmed animals. The way I was raised is no way to raise a kid and I use that as a reference as what not to do when raising a kid.
so you think that there are certain times where it is appropriate to physically beat a defenseless child?
 

BamaBoyBeRolling

Well-Known Member
so you think that there are certain times where it is appropriate to physically beat a defenseless child?
It is not beating it is a spanking, what I got growing up was beatings, what I do is spankings. It is appropriate to spank children who misbehaved badly.
 
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