Pandemic 2020

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CCGNZ

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Covid is like cancer. Companies are getting rich treating it. Not curing it.
You're right,going back to the beg. I can't believe all the experts didn't even have it pegged as a aerosol spreader and told people masks were not needed and we were bathing surfaces and groceries in disinfectant
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Covid is like cancer. Companies are getting rich treating it. Not curing it.

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Based on company financial statements, the Alliance estimates that Pfizer, BioNTech and Moderna will make pre-tax profits of $34 billion this year between them, which works out as over a thousand dollars a second, $65,000 a minute or $93.5 million a day. The monopolies these companies hold have produced five new billionaires during the pandemic, with a combined net wealth of $35.1 billion.
you don't usually "cure" a virus...the cold virus has been around forever, and always will be, the flu virus has been around forever, and always will be...why would you expect this virus to be any different?
 

Wattzzup

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you don't usually "cure" a virus...the cold virus has been around forever, and always will be, the flu virus has been around forever, and always will be...why would you expect this virus to be any different?
Why would I expect a solution? You’re correct I shouldn’t.
 

hanimmal

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really? i don't recall it being traumatic...the only movie i ever felt traumatized by is Eraserhead...that is a seriously fucked up movie.
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merde, je ne savais pas que c'était en français...
'Don't look up' hit me a bit harder than any other movie I think so far. The parallels with the propaganda trolling attack on our society for the last half decade and nobody doing much to really break through it.

You're right,going back to the beg. I can't believe all the experts didn't even have it pegged as a aerosol spreader and told people masks were not needed and we were bathing surfaces and groceries in disinfectant
It really would have been nice to not have a POTUS actively pushing propaganda and suppressing the actual science at the start of it.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Why would I expect a solution? You’re correct I shouldn’t.
that is not what i said, do not use my comments to try to support your position.
not that i entirely disagree with you, about the pharmaceutical companies being greedy fucks, but you cannot expect a cure to a viral problem, the best you can expect is an effective treatment...there are around half a million deaths a year to influenza around the world, they didn't cure the flu...they've been trying my entire lifetime and more to "cure" the cold virus...and it's just as active as it's ever been...so for you to criticize anyone for not curing covid is entirely unreasonable, there will be no cure, the vaccine was never intended as a cure, it is intended to curb the spread of the disease as much as possible, so medical facilities have a slim chance of keeping up to it
 

Wattzzup

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that is not what i said, do not use my comments to try to support your position.
not that i entirely disagree with you, about the pharmaceutical companies being greedy fucks, but you cannot expect a cure to a viral problem, the best you can expect is an effective treatment...there are around half a million deaths a year to influenza around the world, they didn't cure the flu...they've been trying my entire lifetime and more to "cure" the cold virus...and it's just as active as it's ever been...so for you to criticize anyone for not curing covid is entirely unreasonable, there will be no cure, the vaccine was never intended as a cure, it is intended to curb the spread of the disease as much as possible, so medical facilities have a slim chance of keeping up to it
I guess my point is getting missed (or I’m too high to make it) I don’t like taking advice from people making record profits off the product they are trying to get me to buy. Make sense?

so just because JandJ said so doesn’t mean squat to me.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I guess my point is getting missed (or I’m too high to make it) I don’t like taking advice from people making record profits off the product they are trying to get me to buy. Make sense?

so just because JandJ said so doesn’t mean squat to me.
i don't recall paying a penny out of pocket for any of the three vaccines (soon to be four) that i have received so far. do you?
the government just paid pfizer 2B for 100 million doses, sounds like a lot, but that's 20 bucks a dose...i have no idea what it costs pfizer to produce each dose, but whatever it is will eat into that 20 bucks. if you don't have insurance here, they want 40 bucks for a flu shot.
pharma companies are indeed dirty greedy soulless pieces of shit, but if you're going to hate someone, hate them for a real reason, not providing the best thing they have for the situation, for half of what they could be charging for it
 

Wattzzup

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i don't recall paying a penny out of pocket for any of the three vaccines (soon to be four) that i have received so far. do you?
the government just paid pfizer 2B for 100 million doses, sounds like a lot, but that's 20 bucks a dose...i have no idea what it costs pfizer to produce each dose, but whatever it is will eat into that 20 bucks. if you don't have insurance here, they want 40 bucks for a flu shot.
pharma companies are indeed dirty greedy soulless pieces of shit, but if you're going to hate someone, hate them for a real reason, not providing the best thing they have for the situation, for half of what they could be charging for it
If the govt is paying, WE are paying for it :roll:

Guess we can agree to disagree :peace:
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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If the govt is paying, WE are paying for it :roll:

Guess we can agree to disagree :peace:
you are right, we pay for what the government pays for...this is one of the better uses of that money...

https://www.businessinsider.com/government-wastes-money-2010-12#19-haycations-19

https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/12/top-10-wasteful-government-expenses/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/10-most-outrageous-ways-government-wastes-your-money/

some of the things listed as wasteful have useful purposes that aren't apparent on the surface, but many are just...stupid shit the government throws cash at...
at least the vaccine saved some lives
 

Wattzzup

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you are right, we pay for what the government pays for...this is one of the better uses of that money...

https://www.businessinsider.com/government-wastes-money-2010-12#19-haycations-19

https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/12/top-10-wasteful-government-expenses/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/10-most-outrageous-ways-government-wastes-your-money/

some of the things listed as wasteful have useful purposes that aren't apparent on the surface, but many are just...stupid shit the government throws cash at...
at least the vaccine saved some lives
Yes it was worth the money. Couldn’t agree more about govt waste.
 

hanimmal

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Out of all the companies to be upset with for the price gouging they did during a pandemic, it will take a lot more for me to jump on board with being overly upset about the companies that used their past profits to have the science and infrastructure on hand to pump out a highly effective vaccine for a pandemic that is tearing through the unvaccinated communities.
 

injinji

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Covid is like cancer. Companies are getting rich treating it. Not curing it.

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Based on company financial statements, the Alliance estimates that Pfizer, BioNTech and Moderna will make pre-tax profits of $34 billion this year between them, which works out as over a thousand dollars a second, $65,000 a minute or $93.5 million a day. The monopolies these companies hold have produced five new billionaires during the pandemic, with a combined net wealth of $35.1 billion.
What was Pfizer's pre-covid profits? They make bank on those little blue pills, right? It's ironic that covid will actually make more folks who need boner pills.
 

CunningCanuk

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Out of all the companies to be upset with for the price gouging they did during a pandemic, it will take a lot more for me to jump on board with being overly upset about the companies that used their past profits to have the science and infrastructure on hand to pump out a highly effective vaccine for a pandemic that is tearing through the unvaccinated communities.
The drug companies spent a lot of money over the years developing the vaccine, so it’s a bit like biting the hand that feeds you.

They made an investment for the potential of future profits, just like every other corporation does. Unlike some that profited huge from the pandemic, they actually made a contribution to saving lives.

Thank god they made the investment.
 

schuylaar

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The drug companies spent a lot of money over the years developing the vaccine, so it’s a bit like biting the hand that feeds you.

They made an investment for the potential of future profits, just like every other corporation does. Unlike some that profited huge from the pandemic, they actually made a contribution to saving lives.

Thank god they made the investment.
But why is the US 'hand' the one that has to pay it back? Many countries you get same brand name, cheaper with no RX..I can think of one close by that Americans visit to stock up..can you?

You're welcome!:clap:
 

schuylaar

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Covid is like cancer. Companies are getting rich treating it. Not curing it.

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Based on company financial statements, the Alliance estimates that Pfizer, BioNTech and Moderna will make pre-tax profits of $34 billion this year between them, which works out as over a thousand dollars a second, $65,000 a minute or $93.5 million a day. The monopolies these companies hold have produced five new billionaires during the pandemic, with a combined net wealth of $35.1 billion.
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