Pandemic 2020

DIY-HP-LED said:

They figure omicron will be 50% of Ont. cases in a week! Merry Christmas from covid!
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21% of Ontario COVID-19 cases are omicron, says science advisory table

Dr. Peter Jüni, scientific director of the Ontario COVID-19 science advisory table, says the data in Ontario shows that the omicron variant of the coronavirus is roughly three times more transmissible as the delta variant.

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Fortunately the omicron strain appear to be less severe. That's no silver lining but it's better than the opposite.

Budley Doright said:

And why else would anyone go? Asking for a friend.

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I went to one that let you smoke inside and had dollar drinks. Given that was the draw...well, you weren't really there for the show. "No...no thank you, I'm good, maybe a dance later. 2 for 10...eh, maybe later. Want a drink, there a buck."

xtsho said:

Fortunately the omicron strain appear to be less severe. That's no silver lining but it's better than the opposite.

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Perhaps for the vaxxed and immune, but the unvaxxed might be another matter, the high R0 of 3.2 and winter will fill the hospitals and that shuts shit down. We will see how bad it is soon, but the real danger is contagion and overwhelmed hospitals, lots of cases happening very quickly. It's is spreading way faster than we can boost folks.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Perhaps for the vaxxed and immune, but the unvaxxed might be another matter, the high R0 of 3.2 and winter will fill the hospitals and that shuts shit down. We will see how bad it is soon, but the real danger is contagion and overwhelmed hospitals, lots of cases happening very quickly. It's is spreading way faster than we can boost folks.

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The holiday season sure isn't going to help.

It's ridiculous that we're still discussing the unvaxxed. Take the damn shot.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Perhaps for the vaxxed and immune, but the unvaxxed might be another matter, the high R0 of 3.2 and winter will fill the hospitals and that shuts shit down. We will see how bad it is soon, but the real danger is contagion and overwhelmed hospitals, lots of cases happening very quickly. It's is spreading way faster than we can boost folks.

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the reports say it's not a severe as delta, but who knows what the next variant brings? omicron's virulence with deltas symptoms?

Roger A. Shrubber said:

the reports say it's not a severe as delta, but who knows what the next variant brings? omicron's virulence with deltas symptoms?

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I'd like to see more evidence of reduced virulence, but we have plenty of proof it's more contagious, add in winter and we could have a problem. We can't boost our way out of this, it's moving too fast.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

the reports say it's not a severe as delta, but who knows what the next variant brings? omicron's virulence with deltas symptoms?

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What has me concerned is it is competing with highly contagious delta and is spreading very fast. It is also vaccine resistant and while 3 doses works ok, 2 is not enough to keep from getting sick, especially for older people.

xtsho said:

I remember once when I was in Texas. I was chatting with a guy at the office I was setting up. His jaw hit the floor when I told him about the all nude venues. Apparently it's G-strings and pasties in Texas.

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Well that explains the movies where they show these sleasy bars and there are strippers with g-strings. Here I thought it was just to keep a certain rating for the movie. Here we had nude strippers in the 70's. Which reminds me of my stripper story. Took what started out in the DJ booth out onto the swinging bench next door to the bar. you know, the one in front of the senior's home.

xtsho said:

Issues? Well I do have a few. At least the lady keeps telling me so.

The maskless photo is the only issue I commented on in a pandemic thread and it was about wearing a mask. If you don't see the point I was making and instead want to attack me based on whether or not I'm a true Democrat or a Moderate that's your thing. I'm an individual and will continue being one and thinking for myself.

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XT, I jumped to a conclusion and admit that I did. It wasn't an attack. It was an accusation and an unfair one at that.

That said, there is always a backlash when one party or the other is in control. These aren't ordinary times. The other side does not believe it is held to the laws and norms that this society is built upon. They are extremists and basically just do whatever they want, like any totalitarian government would.

You are moderately conservative and I am liberal socialist. But we both believe in rule of law and that we should settle our differences at the ballot box. To me, that makes us allies and I admit I was testing you to see if that could be true. I still think it is.

hmm, that would make me a ....i dunno...i sometimes wish for a truly benevolent dictator that would just force people to do the right thing, and after a few generations of that, he would die, and we would be ready for real democracy...would i be a...benevolent liberal fascist?...a socially liberal, politically moderate, financially conservative...what?

Roger A. Shrubber said:

hmm, that would make me a ....i dunno...i sometimes wish for a truly benevolent dictator that would just force people to do the right thing, and after a few generations of that, he would die, and we would be ready for real democracy...would i be a...benevolent liberal fascist?...a socially liberal, politically moderate, financially conservative...what?

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Benevolent dictator is what dictators call themselves, the people they subjugate don't say that.

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Well, the opposite sure doesn’t work well so I understand the sentiment of wanting someone to take control.


It’s not the system that’s the problem though, it’s humans. In general, they‘re dumb af. Intelligent species is just relatively speaking. Humans, the smartest apes so far, but still as dumb as the rear end of a cow. Facts that support the need for a dictator, just one that isn’t human. What we need is a god, or a demigod. Thanos maybe. Snap and be gone antivaxxers.

Anyway, in NL we’re down to 14k cases after a few weeks of 24k cases per day. We currently have an evening lockdown, starts at 5pm. Not really a lockdown though, just means stores and bars close early. It’s a shit show. Just across the border in Germany everything is open, restaurants, bars. Just got to show vax or recovery proof. They wear masks, social distance, it‘s like they’re a year behind in time. Yet still they have record high infections. It all seems so futile. I lowered my expectations from being able to travel again next year to not dying or getting long covid.

rkymtnman said:

what's your view on mask and vax mandates?

i think it's too late in the game for both. the R's want their freedumb. let them have it. they've had plenty of time to know the risks/rewards by now. it would be a good look by the Dems and the Rs are gonna keep dying. win/win

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There is enough difference in the death rate it will make a difference in close races already. We have another year til midterms and three until the presidential. By then there will be a lot less Republicans than there used to be.

Dr.Amber Trichome said:

. . . . . . . . . . They don’t know how to shovel or salt . I think salting is like a forbidden environmental thing or something over there. Lol. I got to take a couple snow days off work in Eugene Oregon with like and inch of snow. Lol. It was hysterical .

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Road salt is screwing with the ratio of male to female frogs. It causes too many male frogs to be born, which leads to less frogs overall being born.

Speaking of strippers. My boss in the light shop on the Saipan had a stripper girlfriend in Norfolk. It was pretty weird. We would all see her topless at the bar on Saturday night, then see her getting her kids ready for Sunday School the next morning. I knew her for a couple of years, and the cost of child care was her biggest issue related to her occupation. (due to the late hours, it was hard to get teenagers) This lady got home about 0500, but would stay up until the kids left for school before going to bed.

DIY-HP-LED said:

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Not many are going to get this one.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

the air is so dry in Mn. in Jan., Feb. that if you're outside shoveling and cough, you won't be able to stop, you'll need to go inside and get a drink. it's like being in a cold ass desert, just sucks all the moisture out of your mouth, eyes...but not your nose, that would be running like a tap

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Yes it’s impossible for me to smoke a big fatty outside in the winter (don’t smoke much anyways now) as I cough up a lung. The only thing I shovel is my front step. Everything else is done by ATV plow or snowblower. I loath winter and can’t wait to get the fuck out of here for 5 months . The only saving grace and it’s not good really is it’s getting warmer but that just brings more ice storms, their fun . Came outside to scrape the truck last winter and slid completely under the truck !

Roger A. Shrubber said:

hmm, that would make me a ....i dunno...i sometimes wish for a truly benevolent dictator that would just force people to do the right thing, and after a few generations of that, he would die, and we would be ready for real democracy...would i be a...benevolent liberal fascist?...a socially liberal, politically moderate, financially conservative...what?

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I don’t think I would do well in that situation .

CunningCanuk said:

Not many are going to get this one.

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I sure don’t. I suspect post-1988 pop culture content.

Good news on the pill treatment, hopefully if will be approved soon, Canada and the USA have already purchased large quantities, pending approval.
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