Pandemic 2020

injinji said:

A lot of the old folks who died early on were not counted.

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That's true. Also, to this day, many places like Florida are intentionally writing off older folk's deaths as anything but Covid. They die of a heart attack brought on by Covid then they died of a heart attack.

Even with intentionally changing cause of death away from Covid-19, Florida has gone blazing past the 20,000 deaths mark. I imagine that number is closer to 35,000 or so at least.

TacoMac said:

That's true. Also, to this day, many places like Florida are intentionally writing off older folk's deaths as anything but Covid. They die of a heart attack brought on by Covid then they died of a heart attack.

Even with intentionally changing cause of death away from Covid-19, Florida has gone blazing past the 20,000 deaths mark. I imagine that number is closer to 35,000 or so at least.

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I think Florida will show true numbers are much higher, may be a few months but truth will show.

hillbill said:

I think Florida will show true numbers are much higher, may be a few months but truth will show.

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Over half the people there don't give a fuck how many die, how big a margin was Matt Gaetz re elected by?

Election 2020: Matt Gaetz shuts out Phil Ehr for third term (pnj.com)

Explain how this piece of trash even got to run for office much get elected to it, if racism was not the largest factor by far. His district is full of suckers and losers. Matt does nothing but screw them and is most likely a sociopath like Trump.

hillbill said:

I think Florida will show true numbers are much higher, may be a few months but truth will show.

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Just look at excess deaths for 2020, I imagine it's getting near 400,000 by now, may even be more than that.

Republican administrations across the country have been and continue be complicit in tens and tens of thousands of people dying, total failures of responsibility to us.

captainmorgan said:

Just look at excess deaths for 2020, I imagine it's getting near 400,000 by now, may even be more than that.

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DeSantis should have no problem getting re elected, he can't kill enough for the base, they only have one real issue, nothing else matters, nothing. Many even die of covid with Trump's lies on their lips, or their last words are it's not real and must be something else, before the plastic tube is shoved down their throats. The doctors and nurses continue to be stunned by their willful ignorance and stupidity. Nope, history will be rewritten by then and none of this will have happened for almost half the country, as they blame Trump's tax increases on Joe and the democrats. It's not hard to convince someone who really wants to believe.

I'm beginning to think the democrats should get rid of socialism, by ending equalization payments to loser states. I mean if these places can't make it on their own, let them starve. NC gets $7 for every $1 they put in and Texas uses the federal money so they don't have to pay state income taxes and are stealing the rich away from states where they do. Let the winner states like NY and CA decide how their tax dollars are spent in the loser states, just cut the feds out of the picture altogether. They could then decide what to fund in economically dependent red states that cut education budgets and suppress minorities by forming a council to determine who gets what.

Or a less extreme option
Remember socialism is bad, down right evil in fact, they could even use the money saved to have single payer healthcare. Win the senate and make it "voluntary" for states to pay in, those states that don't like big government don't have to pay to support it, but don't get anything from it either. Make it a state referendum tied to single payer healthcare, the racist red states can be relied upon to cut their own throats. The more racist the state the more resistance to single payer healthcare or any form of "socialism", fine. They can opt out and the rest of the country can have single payer healthcare and equalization payments.

More bad news,the variants in the UK and South Africa are different, the SA one has more mutations than the UK variant. The bad news is they have found the SA variant in the UK now. Covid was supposed to be a virus that was more stable than the flu with less mutation, which was a good thing for vaccine development. Doesn't seem to be the case, there have been 3 major mutations so far and the SA variant appears to be more deadly to the young and healthy.

TacoMac said:

That's true. Also, to this day, many places like Florida are intentionally writing off older folk's deaths as anything but Covid. They die of a heart attack brought on by Covid then they died of a heart attack. . . . . . . . .

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Yesterday was my last trip to town before Christmas, so I went by and gave the three thrift stores I frequent a few bucks. They all do good work, and I support them. The Re-store (Habitat for Humanity) requires mask and will give you one if you don't have one. Some days they do temp checks at the door, but not always. The other two are Christian based, and they don't wear mask or ask their customers to do so. In the past when I've talked to them about the pandemic, they parrot GOP talking points. Yesterday a lady who has been my friend for several years was telling me she knew for a fact they were counting car wrecks as covid deaths. She also said the virus was not airborne, and she was not going to wear a mask, take a test, take the vaccine or do any other measure except wash her hands. She knew it was over hyped because she had traveled for Thanksgiving and nothing happened to her.

We will get through the pandemic. It will take a year or two, but thanks the vaccine, there is light at the end of the tunnel. Sadly there is no stupid vaccine. My NW Florida neighbors will continue to be the way they are for years to come. In the long run, that could be more dangerous.

hanimmal said:

There are actually a lot of doctors that will do just that if it means that they can sell some books/get funding. I think back to all those doctors that would be paraded out to say things like cigarettes were safe.
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There has always been conmen (and women) that are willing to say anything for a buck. That is why science requires double blind tests whose results are repeatable by other scientists/doctors.



Im not sure what you are talking about here. The internet is a vast place and it is impossible for me to guess what it could be that you mean.



You say zero accountability like it is a bad thing (which I agree zero accountability is bad) but then make it seem like people blaming Trump are out of line, because everywhere is having a spike (because winter).


Trump stopped the masks being sent out to all the citizens by the post office early on, and played down the dangers. And even if he didn't actively help the spread of it early on in our spreading of the virus, Trump himself understood at one point that the buck stops with the POTUS.
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Then in April he started pushing his potential domestic terrorists into a summer long protest of any sane government response to the pandemic.

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Then in June he had enough and started hosting super spreader events for his cult.

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And so many more examples of the man with the most powerful megaphone and a digital army pushing his agenda actively harming our nation's ability to sanely combat this virus.


Im not a doctor and don't know enough to answer this. But I do see the problem with being able to say you have never taken the flu vaccine, and that more often than not it failed. Because those points are contradictory. You can't know it failed if you never taken it.

The thing I do understand about the vaccines though is that it doesn't necessarily stop you from getting the virus, but it does help your system to keep it from getting as severe of a case if you do.

And this vaccine has been being developed for decades. Science builds from all the science done before it.

My wife is scheduled to take it this week, and I couldn't be more relieved once she has. This virus is very real, and very dangerous.

I hope you and your family keep healthy and safe.

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I typed wrong on the vax issue. I never did and used my family members as a reference. Recently a vax Nazi friend of mine had his whole family take the reg flu vax. They were pounded by a little flue that didn't touch me. Not covid. He works in the medical industry around people who are at risk daily. He had to stay home for 5 days while that vax tore a strip out of him.

I am sure you will enjoy this funny that you have done. while pointing out my errors you made one of your own all at the same time. Funny as hell.

Go to the top of the page and then relate that opinion about doctors to the bottom of the page when you say " And this vaccine has been being developed for decades. Science builds from all the science done before it." From what I have read the m-rna use was slammed for potential issues and concerns about its inability to be considered safe. I only read this a few times and a friend of the family is a solid doctor who said it wont kill ya but it is a big risk they are taking considering the fact they are messing with rna. No company will have liability and the governments involved have insurance in place to pay to your loved ones when their experiment kills you. Sick to use valuless money to compensate for harm or death.

Honestly I think that Dr Pierre kory is telling the truth, I could be wrong but usually I am right.

If your wife is a front line worker my thanks go out to her. It is a scary job right now.

I also do front line work and help with local street people, the people the gov throws on the street. Often out till 1 am dealing with the destruction our lovely hacks have thrown on the street. The same people who pretend to care, cute pictures on a website does not mean they are telling you the truth.

I believe you are right and know for sure the virus is deadly and at best a long term destruction for many. The truth of getting ill is no joke.

That said hate towards any politician and blaming him for outcomes related to covid is weak. In the case of Covid it is clear that it has yet to do its real damage. So far its truly hype and abuse of a situation that is going on. Our new fianance minister live on the radio was clear that she plans on pouring more and more cash out with hopes of destroying our economy, cuz the other guys are.

Look up what a quarantine actually is. If the government didn't have its head up its ass both Canada and the US would have been much better off, initially. It is clear that this virus is not being stopped by cloth masks or hard protocols and the current deaths are not as bad as we thought they would be.

I "feel" as if next year will give us a surprise that the gov is again not ready for. So far of all the talking youtube heads the canadian prepper has been pretty close on time lines.

Canada's problem is Tru dope, not Dump. I dont have words for how corrupt and destructive the liberals have been. It started with Harper but wow Justin is truly disgusting. I have seen the programs and garbage pumped into our system. Sick demented people in that liberal party. The liberals have actually done to Canada what Dump suggested people do with bleach. Lol, Dump suggested it like a moron and Justin ran and did it to our systems / lifelines.

Good luck.

hillbill said:

After the worm pills, how about an Ultraviolet light up your ass?

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Carlin was not humor anymore and if you were smart you listened. That said you are offering to jam your little light bulb in my ass. Now that is funny and interesting. I dont speak your pronoun on command and never will I make your sexual preference a concern of mine. What you do behind closed doors is a you problem, period. Put your tiny light sabre away little Jedi.

Uk variant 70% more contagious, SA variant 80-90% more contagious, and doctors are warning that with the SA variant doctors are seeing young people and otherwise healthy people having higher viral loads and getting sicker then before.

DIY-HP-LED said:

I'm from Canada and you are a lying asshole, nothing you said was true including about the flu vaccine. You are a fabulist as well as a psycho, they often go together. Keep spewing shit though, cause you're not doing any real harm here and have been banned from facebook. Like the other racist idiots who spew here, you have no impact, morons do lurk though, but you are not really gaining any new ground with them, just losing it with those on the fence, who are very few and mostly confused.

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Lightbulb I get that the truth hurts and I dont mean you harm. How am I raciest? I don't use facebook. Just for further references it could get embarrassing in the future if you get invested in that silly idea I am like the liberal lemmings. Cheerleading people who dont know or care about you is a waste of time. You have a fantasy hockey team too? Please say no.

I see you feel this is based on a need to be validated or to be "right". Just sharing is all I am doing. Free speech is very very important even your angry drivel is needing the respect of free speech. Here ya go, try this on for size. This is a wonderful man who can help even the most depraved, even you can gain wonderful knowledge from this basic intro to non violent communication.

Cheers Buddy
Have a Nice Day

DIY-HP-LED said:

I'm from Canada and you are a lying asshole, nothing you said was true including about the flu vaccine. You are a fabulist as well as a psycho, they often go together. Keep spewing shit though, cause you're not doing any real harm here and have been banned from facebook. Like the other racist idiots who spew here, you have no impact, morons do lurk though, but you are not really gaining any new ground with them, just losing it with those on the fence, who are very few and mostly confused.

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this idiot sounds very much like @Jeffferson1977 aka @oddish

he's a fkn fraud for sure

How come these new “members” to RIU, a well known 420 site show their stupids ass in Politics first off? It’s bullshit.

grass_fish said:

I typed wrong on the vax issue. I never did and used my family members as a reference. Recently a vax Nazi friend of mine had his whole family take the reg flu vax. They were pounded by a little flue that didn't touch me. Not covid. He works in the medical industry around people who are at risk daily. He had to stay home for 5 days while that vax tore a strip out of him.

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Do you think that could be because you have less risk of catching a gnarly bug than someone working in a hospital? I don't know how you are saying it was the vaccine that tore him up though. That is not how it works unless he had some allergic reaction to it.

grass_fish said:

I am sure you will enjoy this funny that you have done. while pointing out my errors you made one of your own all at the same time. Funny as hell.

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I apologize, it gets difficult to know who i trolling and who is not. All the anti-vaccine nonsense gets old and the disinformation/propaganda is flowing hard. So I shouldn't have let that impact my response to you.

grass_fish said:

Go to the top of the page and then relate that opinion about doctors to the bottom of the page when you say " And this vaccine has been being developed for decades. Science builds from all the science done before it." From what I have read the m-rna use was slammed for potential issues and concerns about its inability to be considered safe. I only read this a few times and a friend of the family is a solid doctor who said it wont kill ya but it is a big risk they are taking considering the fact they are messing with rna. No company will have liability and the governments involved have insurance in place to pay to your loved ones when their experiment kills you. Sick to use valuless money to compensate for harm or death.

Honestly I think that Dr Pierre kory is telling the truth, I could be wrong but usually I am right.

If your wife is a front line worker my thanks go out to her. It is a scary job right now.

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The replicable results is the key to why it is better to trust the science and not just the doctors. Thanks for the compliment about my wife, I am pretty proud of her too.

grass_fish said:

I also do front line work and help with local street people, the people the gov throws on the street. Often out till 1 am dealing with the destruction our lovely hacks have thrown on the street. The same people who pretend to care, cute pictures on a website does not mean they are telling you the truth.

I believe you are right and know for sure the virus is deadly and at best a long term destruction for many. The truth of getting ill is no joke.

That said hate towards any politician and blaming him for outcomes related to covid is weak. In the case of Covid it is clear that it has yet to do its real damage. So far its truly hype and abuse of a situation that is going on. Our new fianance minister live on the radio was clear that she plans on pouring more and more cash out with hopes of destroying our economy, cuz the other guys are.

Look up what a quarantine actually is. If the government didn't have its head up its ass both Canada and the US would have been much better off, initially. It is clear that this virus is not being stopped by cloth masks or hard protocols and the current deaths are not as bad as we thought they would be.

I "feel" as if next year will give us a surprise that the gov is again not ready for. So far of all the talking youtube heads the canadian prepper has been pretty close on time lines.

Canada's problem is Tru dope, not Dump. I dont have words for how corrupt and destructive the liberals have been. It started with Harper but wow Justin is truly disgusting. I have seen the programs and garbage pumped into our system. Sick demented people in that liberal party. The liberals have actually done to Canada what Dump suggested people do with bleach. Lol, Dump suggested it like a moron and Justin ran and did it to our systems / lifelines.

Good luck.

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It is important work you are doing too. It is horrible how we treat our fellow human beings.

I disagree with you about the economic stimulus being bad for an economy, history shows otherwise. And I agree that both our nations should be doing a far better job. Although if we could actually get people to wear there masks we would have had far less that the at least 300,000 deaths here from this virus.

I won't argue you that in Canada Trump is not necessarily your problem.

Good luck to you too. Stay safe.

DIY-HP-LED said:

DeSantis should have no problem getting re elected, he can't kill enough for the base,

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That asshole knows where his bread is buttered.........one of the first places the vaccine went to was The Villages.

Ivermectin - A Game Changer for COVID-19?


Just to try and help others have an option. Consider the lack of dangers compared to rushed vax. Hope this helps . I am glad to be wrong but I am pretty sure I am not.

Good luck.

What happen to your last miracle cure that when combined with a UV butt plug was unbeatable.

A 37 year old California man has killed his 82 year old hospital roommate by crushing his skull with a oxygen tank,they both had covid.