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Nute & Reverse Osmosis questions For Hydro

Incredible4Mr2E

Incredible4Mr2E

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rkymtnman said:
so how are the plants looking now?
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So, they weren’t getting better at all. I just completely changed the water and cleaned the system out by hand with no chemicals but ro water and a lot of clean towels lol. I think I got the rags to soak up most of the residue. The water splashing on the top of the tote was leaving a thick white stain. I don’t know if that was the Ph up but it was bad. They seem to be doing better from what I can tell in the past hour lol. I gave them a super cut tho, like bad!!! PH stable at 6.1 and I added 15 grams of epsom for 24 gallons. My schedule says not to add beneficial bacteria, but I did ‍♂ Lol image.jpg

Next grow, I’m moving the entire tent to the front of the pool so I can take the entire tent off to get all the way around the plants. I can only hit 2 of the four sides, so if I move it I’ll be able to reach front, left side and rear. I need to get the Current Culture root thing to stick in the rear bulkheads from keeping roots being pulled by the pump. It is a mother fucker to get roots out of that 1” fucking return line!!!
 
Mr. Mohaskey

Mr. Mohaskey

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Incredible4Mr2E said:
Me and the wife are going to buy property next year. My plan is to build a 24’x24’ solid block room off the back of the house we choose. I’ll have a floor drain, ten foot ceilings, water, 220 power, I just can’t wait.
Ive asked for a report and always told to go online. Go online and it’s like a yr or two old but doesn’t really state anything of importance.
Can you tell me what this reading is, or how to read it? I’m trying to switch to EC, not PPM. I just mixed up a new batch of water with nutes and I’m reading 6.0 PH and that picture is my EC I think. View attachment 5032197
I also put 15 grams of epsom in 24 gallons of ro water.
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Pretty sure that would read 1.58EC
 
Incredible4Mr2E

Incredible4Mr2E

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Riddick65 said:
That seems pretty high for veg, I wouldn't go over 600 ppm, or maybe .6 ec till you flip to flower, then start out around 1 ec and go up from there.
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I’m in my third week of flower. I went a little less this week then recommended. Last week I went strong and they burned a little. This week I backed off and added 15 grams of Epsom for 24 gallons of water. I think I should’ve went more though.
 
Incredible4Mr2E

Incredible4Mr2E

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TintEastwood said:
Unlike last run, I choose to add and Ca and Mg this round.
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I actually use only as much ArmorSi as needed to set final PH. Added last.

Silica, PH, prevent precip.

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I just got a chance to read the article, good stuff. Do you try to lower your PH to add more Si? What is your typical PH after adding all your nutes before adding the Si? Seems like it has more benefits then I thought.
 
TintEastwood

TintEastwood

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Incredible4Mr2E said:
I just got a chance to read the article, good stuff. Do you try to lower your PH to add more Si? What is your typical PH after adding all your nutes before adding the Si? Seems like it has more benefits then I thought.
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Starting with RO.

Typical res PH after mixing everything is around 5.4.

Then I add about 6ml of ArmorSi to hit around 6.2

I know everything tells me to add the Si first. My Jacks mix is virtually clear, no difference visually with or without silica. No precip in my res doing it this way.

Hope that's of some help
 
Incredible4Mr2E

Incredible4Mr2E

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Riddick65 said:
By the third week of flower i usually have flowers, not trying to be an asshole, but something doesn't seem right
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Dude!!! I am soooooo glad someone said it!!! My buddy had beautiful buds already stacking at just 2 weeks, co2 though. If I’m being honest, I don’t think cutting 30-70% of the fan leafs off every other day but honestly like everyday for the past four weeks helped. This is what the bud sites look like today.76FEDB85-D22C-4C39-9EB9-A84DA3F7CEDA.jpeg95D7DE15-A769-4ED0-92EB-00CB60EA3851.jpeg789C1447-6BD5-4DC2-B8CF-0C487BF43242.jpeg9004B97F-E9DF-441A-B736-39B4A5CAD24F.jpeg
 
Incredible4Mr2E

Incredible4Mr2E

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TintEastwood said:
Starting with RO.

Typical res PH after mixing everything is around 5.4.

Then I add about 6ml of ArmorSi to hit around 6.2

I know everything tells me to add the Si first. My Jacks mix is virtually clear, no difference visually with or without silica. No precip in my res doing it this way.

Hope that's of some help
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What do you try to get your PH to stay at or do you adjust it during the week?
 
Incredible4Mr2E

Incredible4Mr2E

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Riddick65 said:
By the third week of flower i usually have flowers, not trying to be an asshole, but something doesn't seem right
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Last Saturday I took I bet 75% of the fan leafs. Picture shows how I chopped her. First is how she was before I went all chop chop crazy on it. You think I stressed it out horribly cutting it down and hard over a bunch of weeks almost daily?2B39AA55-9B39-4EE4-A298-EE8ACA869175.jpeg1FAC3925-8AF2-4D50-A38E-A1362FEFB870.jpeg
 
Riddick65

Riddick65

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I don't like defoliation, but if you're going to do it, you're supposed to wait till they just start throwing flower, then do it.
I'll take maybe 35% of the leaves when they start to flower, not defoliation but pruning. Cull the leaves that are laying on top of other leaves, laying on top of buds, or growing backwards into the plant. Leaves laying on top of each other will stay wet from transpiration, providing powdery mildew and bud rot a place to start.
 
Incredible4Mr2E

Incredible4Mr2E

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Riddick65 said:
I don't like defoliation, but if you're going to do it, you're supposed to wait till they just start throwing flower, then do it.
I'll take maybe 35% of the leaves when they start to flower, not defoliation but pruning. Cull the leaves that are laying on top of other leaves, laying on top of buds, or growing backwards into the plant. Leaves laying on top of each other will stay wet from transpiration, providing powdery mildew and bud rot a place to start.
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So, do you think it’s not going to produce like it should or it’s just going to take longer to mature? I didn’t realize you were suppose to wait, I thought you wanted to do it the first two weeks of budding.
 
Riddick65

Riddick65

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2 weeks into flower, this is about when i do a little pruning, but no where close to what you've done.
It's hard to say what it will do to your yield. I would expect it to slow the plant down some. They look pretty healthy otherwise, so they should bounce back pretty well. Just, don't love them to death.
 
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