Nute & Reverse Osmosis questions For Hydro

1212ham

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The lights a little over 3 foot away now. I just don’t think it’s the light but at the same time the plants both responded to it being turned down to 320 watts and all the way to the top of the tent. Then, like a moron, I thought putting peroxide in would help not thinking about the live bacteria. I mixed up 24 gallons of RO water, put the peroxide in and let it sit for 24 hrs before adding my nutes. I just feel something off. I just checked PH and it’s at 5.5 now. The PPM’s only go down about 100 by the end of the week. I top off 2 gallons everyday with fresh Nutes added in it. I haven’t had any issues until I did my water change Sunday. 2 days later and it’s getting bad. Do you think the Peroxide threw my ph off? I just added two drops of PH up, I’ll wait two hrs and recheck it. Here’s some pictures I just took. The ends are starting to curl down now. Jesus I’m a dumb fuck for adding that peroxide. I knew I should’ve dumped the water and redid it. Bottom leafs are definitely not turning as fast tho[ATTACH type="full" alt="8615FB92-0262-4279-
You mentioned peroxide a few times, but how much? I really doubt peroxide is your issue, it's use is common and I see little effect on my ph with Jacks. Sure it kills bacteria, but you aren't in living soil and it also kills bad bacteria... like root rot.
 

1212ham

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i try to do it about 2 minutes before the lights go out (makes it easier to see what you are doing)

the goal is to spray the leaves especially the underside when the stomata are open. they eventually close shortly after the lights go out.
I spent a lot of time looking for that info a couple years back! The signal to noise ratio was about 1:1 with people saying to never spray undersides etc. etc. I finally found posts from people I trusted.
 

1212ham

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i'd do 2 things for the Mg;
first give them a foliar spray of 1 TBSP of Epsom per gallon. right at lights out is best.
then bump up pH to around 6 to 6.2 and see what happens.
I've seen both 1 TBSP and 1 TSP recommended, I wonder if it really matters for a spray?
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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i think the 2 values i've seen are 1 TBSP or 2 TBSP per gallon? i went with the 1. it seems like 2 sprays maybe 12 to 24 hrs apart fixes it up quick
You mentioned peroxide a few times, but how much? I really doubt peroxide is your issue, it's use is common and I see little effect on my ph with Jacks. Sure it kills bacteria, but you aren't in living soil and it also kills bad bacteria... like root rot.
Like I said, I was retarded about the entire situation with the peroxide. I tipped it upside down and just squirting a bunch into the clean RO water I have beneficial bacteria I put in it, like three different types. The roots look fine and I’ll take some pictures when the lights go on at 9.
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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i think the 2 values i've seen are 1 TBSP or 2 TBSP per gallon? i went with the 1. it seems like 2 sprays maybe 12 to 24 hrs apart fixes it up quick
I saw post saying to use 1 teaspoon per gallon lol. I’ve been on these forums reading a lot over the past months and you always seem to make an appearance on 9 out of 10 of them. I trust what you say, seems like you’ve had your trail and error period behind you for the most part. Last night I almost bought jacks part A and B. The shipping is ridiculous and think I can get the 25lbs bags cheaper at my local grow shop. 130 for both 25lbs bags I didn’t think was horrible, especially considering I’ve seen how much you use, it’s nothing compared to mixing them fucking stupid bottles.
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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You mentioned peroxide a few times, but how much? I really doubt peroxide is your issue, it's use is common and I see little effect on my ph with Jacks. Sure it kills bacteria, but you aren't in living soil and it also kills bad bacteria... like root rot.
What is everything you use for Nutes? I’m switching over to Jack 321 and wanted to know what else besides the 5-12-26, 15-0-0 and the epsom? I see they have a 10-30-20 for the first week or two of flower. Is this something you use when you feed them? Do you add silicas? I’ve seen post of people saying they added shit in and don’t have luck, just using the 3 part has worked best. With the PH, do you mix all your nutes, adjust PH and you’re good for the week or do you have to adjust once or twice a week?
 

rkymtnman

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I saw post saying to use 1 teaspoon per gallon lol. I’ve been on these forums reading a lot over the past months and you always seem to make an appearance on 9 out of 10 of them. I trust what you say, seems like you’ve had your trail and error period behind you for the most part. Last night I almost bought jacks part A and B. The shipping is ridiculous and think I can get the 25lbs bags cheaper at my local grow shop. 130 for both 25lbs bags I didn’t think was horrible, especially considering I’ve seen how much you use, it’s nothing compared to mixing them fucking stupid bottles.
i'm using the 1 part Jack's. they have a RO or Tap formula. i love it.
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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i'm using the 1 part Jack's. they have a RO or Tap formula. i love it.
That’s all you use is just the 5-12-26 with nothing else? I didn’t realize they had one made for RO water, that’s good to know. So my roots look amazing today, at least I think. It’s weird that both are showing the same signs of stress at the same time. Something I did or didn’t do was drastic, it hit them both at the very same time. Here’s some pictures of the roots I just took 60 seconds ago, they filled the 10 gallon tote big time!!! They’re the exact color in the first picture, the second and third the lightings off or something A30DF856-CAF5-4F82-A5E6-66DC48307AEE.jpeg48E9246F-C529-4FC4-8835-9C5782A79364.jpegDA9385C8-EF76-47D6-B139-DC0449FAFFD9.jpeg
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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what's your pH at now?
I just got it to 6.0 this morning. It took a lot of PH up to just come up 1. Like 4 ML per the 24 gallons to raise it up just that one. I’m going to stick with 6 for right now and see if it fluctuates at all. When you say to add in a gram of epsom per gallon, are you saying pull out the ole didgies and weight a gram of that out per gallon?
 

rkymtnman

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I just got it to 6.0 this morning. It took a lot of PH up to just come up 1. Like 4 ML per the 24 gallons to raise it up just that one. I’m going to stick with 6 for right now and see if it fluctuates at all. When you say to add in a gram of epsom per gallon, are you saying pull out the ole didgies and weight a gram of that out per gallon?
i weigh all my dry nutes.
 

1212ham

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I saw post saying to use 1 teaspoon per gallon lol. I’ve been on these forums reading a lot over the past months and you always seem to make an appearance on 9 out of 10 of them. I trust what you say, seems like you’ve had your trail and error period behind you for the most part. Last night I almost bought jacks part A and B. The shipping is ridiculous and think I can get the 25lbs bags cheaper at my local grow shop. 130 for both 25lbs bags I didn’t think was horrible, especially considering I’ve seen how much you use, it’s nothing compared to mixing them fucking stupid bottles.
I did a lot of searching yesterday and found recommendations for both 1 teaspoon and 1 tablespoon per gallon for spray.

Don't trust me to much, I have a LOT to learn!
I bought a 6 pound Jack's 321 kit off ebay with free shipping for $35. People there resell Jacks and other nutes in smaller quantities.
 

1212ham

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What is everything you use for Nutes? I’m switching over to Jack 321 and wanted to know what else besides the 5-12-26, 15-0-0 and the epsom? I see they have a 10-30-20 for the first week or two of flower. Is this something you use when you feed them? Do you add silicas? I’ve seen post of people saying they added shit in and don’t have luck, just using the 3 part has worked best. With the PH, do you mix all your nutes, adjust PH and you’re good for the week or do you have to adjust once or twice a week?
I mix Jacks at exactly a 321 ratio with RO. It gives me around 5.8 ph and I raise it to 6.2ph with tap water, then dilute with RO as desired. Haven't added anything other than HO2O.

For Hempy buckets I mix and ph a batch to last a few days, but I also adjust it every day before feeding if needed. I had mag deficiency and started going in at 6.2 ph as Tint suggested and also raised ec to 1.6, seems to have worked. Check out Tint's grow journal and this thread, I think the mag def. discussion started a couple pages prior...



To start flower I'm using TintEastwood's 10-30-20 recipe but with less Armor SI since I'm running out of space and will have to do some training, then back to 321.
 
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