My second crop. What do you think?

Hello,

I’m starting my second garden this week, and will be putting my cuttings, when rooted, straight into 16Litre Rhizo Pots. I’ll also be using an irrigation drip system and my question concerns this. How long and how often should I feed at this beginning stage? In other words what settings should I put my water timer on?

Thanks in advance
 

fearnoevil

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Sorry, don't know what medium you're using, soil, coco coir, etc. Also not sure why you'd put cuttings directly into such large pots right off the bat - if you're trying to save a step, you're sacrificing better control on a couple of fronts.

First you're going to waste more feeding them - sure bigger pots will need less watering, but their still going to lose moisture and unless you keep nutes on a tight leash you might end up with build up. The exception would be if you're going organic, but still have to water more.

If you're less experienced you may not get your mix right, or have some other issue, so small pots to start will allow you do make changes as you transplant to bigger ones. Also if you're using nutes and you make a mistake, a 16 litre container is going to be a lot more difficult to flush out.

Just some food for thought, I don't have enough information to give you a better answer, some pics might also help, good luck though ;?)
 
Thanks for your response. I’ll be using soil. And I will use smaller pots before transplanting them to the 16Litres, as I thought I could reduce shock if I eliminated the transplanting process. Let’s say I put my cuttings into 3.8 Litre rhizo Pots, how would I measure the amount of watering and intervals between feeds?

Thanks again


Sorry, don't know what medium you're using, soil, coco coir, etc. Also not sure why you'd put cuttings directly into such large pots right off the bat - if you're trying to save a step, you're sacrificing better control on a couple of fronts.

First you're going to waste more feeding them - sure bigger pots will need less watering, but their still going to lose moisture and unless you keep nutes on a tight leash you might end up with build up. The exception would be if you're going organic, but still have to water more.

If you're less experienced you may not get your mix right, or have some other issue, so small pots to start will allow you do make changes as you transplant to bigger ones. Also if you're using nutes and you make a mistake, a 16 litre container is going to be a lot more difficult to flush out.

Just some food for thought, I don't have enough information to give you a better answer, some pics might also help, good luck though ;?)
il
 

Chip Green

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I thought I could reduce shock if I eliminated the transplanting process

This is an area of information that often gets exaggerated. Certainly some care needs to be taken, as to do a little damage as possible to any size rootball. When done correctly with proper timing for soil moisture levels, I feel that the minimal risk is FAR outweighed by the numerous benefits of potting up. That being said, the type of container and medium are also major factors in low stress transplants.
 

fearnoevil

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Like Chip said, transplant shock can be over emphasized, the main issue I think is allowing a container to get root bound which can cause problems if not handled properly.

Not sure if I would go with the Rhizo Pots as an intermediate container - if I'm not mistaken they are porous and similar to smart pots which allow for air pruning but I'm wondering if that allows the tips of roots to penetrate? Might cause a problem in transplanting, I've never used them so just an idea which could be wrong.

But they're not cheap and since they're just a temporary intermediate step, a cheaper option would be to use regular plastic ones until they are transplanted into their permanent home. As I understand it, the advantage of air pruning roots allows for more root growth which is supposed to reduce or stop the typical problem of plants getting root bound and spiraling root balls and encourages more root growth, but if you don't plan on leaving them in the smaller pots overly long, then it may not be necessary. Someone with more xp might have better advice though.
 

GeneBanker

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Thanks for your response. I’ll be using soil. And I will use smaller pots before transplanting them to the 16Litres, as I thought I could reduce shock if I eliminated the transplanting process. Let’s say I put my cuttings into 3.8 Litre rhizo Pots, how would I measure the amount of watering and intervals between feeds?

Thanks again



il
I use 1/5 or 1/6 of the soil amount in water as my starting point in figuring watering for a new pheno. Adjusting that ratio to the plant im looking at. You water when its dry when in soil...
 

Cx2H

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"differences in the genotypes can produce different phenotypes."

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