Miracle Grow Works Fine

grannybonger

Active Member
so if i used miracle grow will the plant not produce as much fragrance?
If you call raunchy a fragrance yes. I already tried to tell these guys, your weed will taste like shit or worce.

STOP PROMOTING THIS MIRACLE-STINK-SHIT FOR GROWING WEED. IT'S NOT MEANT FOR FLOWERS YOU SMOKE, PERIOD!!!
 

budlover13

King Tut
If you call raunchy a fragrance yes. I already tried to tell these guys, your weed will taste like shit or worce.

STOP PROMOTING THIS MIRACLE-STINK-SHIT FOR GROWING WEED. IT'S NOT MEANT FOR FLOWERS YOU SMOKE, PERIOD!!!
No, just for food you eat and consume. If you can't stand it then don't use it. A good flush will rid the smell/taste of nutes too if not in MG soil. Period.
 

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
If you call raunchy a fragrance yes. I already tried to tell these guys, your weed will taste like shit or worce.

STOP PROMOTING THIS MIRACLE-STINK-SHIT FOR GROWING WEED. IT'S NOT MEANT FOR FLOWERS YOU SMOKE, PERIOD!!!
You must have just used too much or something. I'm using it, and mine is smelling VERY nice. Only third week of flower. but it's a nice ass smell. I can't wait. I just put 3 pinches in a pint of water, and no burn or nothin for these two weeks I've been doing it. And the smell IMPROVED. I won't say that's due to the miracle grow. It's flowering so it should be getting stronger and better. But I was using MG and it got BETTER so not making it "raunchy"
 

grannybonger

Active Member
I bought and used it full strength, BY MISTAKE. Yup and I ferted them too, and not knowing still, I only flushed wonce.

So I didn't read about miracle-kill until the girls were flowering funny, TOO MUCH NUTES!

Man, I learned the hard way, nobody else should.
 

budlover13

King Tut
I bought and used it full strength, BY MISTAKE. Yup and I ferted them too, and not knowing still, I only flushed wonce.

So I didn't read about miracle-kill until the girls were flowering funny, TOO MUCH NUTES!

Man, I learned the hard way, nobody else should.
ALL nutes can be over-utilized though.
 

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
Yeah, MG just doesn't expect you to be growing weed. You gotta go around the label. It's going to make it last a long time too. I've got like twelve, 1ft baggies full of blue granules. At 3 pinches every other water, this will last forever.
 

Jogro

Well-Known Member
Grannybonger
If you call raunchy a fragrance yes. I already tried to tell these guys, your weed will taste like shit or worce.

STOP PROMOTING THIS MIRACLE-STINK-SHIT FOR GROWING WEED. IT'S NOT MEANT FOR FLOWERS YOU SMOKE, PERIOD!!
This is simply not true in my experience.

Do you find the tastes of fish emulsion, bat-guano, horse-manure, or worm castings delicious? How about the tastes of all the various synthetic hydroponic fertilizers used to produce the top shelf crops that win all the trophies and sell for $600+/oz at the top dispensaries? Are those delicious? Many of these hydro formulas contain similar constituents as Miracle-Gro, albeit in different concentrations.

Potential to shade the taste of your plant is why you stop adding fertilizers 1-2 weeks prior to harvest and flush well with water if you're using any soluble synthetic fertilizers. Do that, and you'll have no taste of any fertilizer in your crops, no matter which ones you are using.

I'd like to add a few points here too. Cannabis is a flowering weed plant that thrives in temperate climates all across the planet. Its not some exotic tropical plant requiring special nutrients or conditions to grow. All it needs to thrive are nitrogen, potassium, and phosphorus, plus trace elements, the same as literally every other common flowering plant on the planet. Synthetic commercial fertilizers containing nitrates and trace elements (yes. . .like Miracle Gro) are used to feed all sorts commercially grown plant products, including tobacco, which, last time I checked, IS actually smoked.

Yes, some formulations are going to work better than others for given applications, and I don't think anyone is claiming that Miracle-Gro is hands-down the best product out there for cannabis growth, but this idea that marijuana requires some super-duper special/secret fertilizer to thrive is just nonsense. It defies basic plant biology, common sense, and most people's experience in growing, I think. The plant doesn't care or know what the source is of the elements, it just has needs that have to be met for optimum growth.

Can Miracle-Gro work? Not only can it work, it works GREAT. . IF you use it correctly and understand its limitations. I've seen it used many times with considerable increase in both plant vigor and size.

To use it, first of all you have to pick the right product designed for your particular application. There are at least half a dozen different products branded as "Miracle-Gro", including soluble fertilizers you add to water, slow-release fertilizers, and Miracle-Gro branded soil, and obviously they don't all work the same. For the casual cannabis grower, who simply wants a fertilizer to add in regular waterings, that could be "all purpose" Miracle-Gro for vegetative growth, and high phosphorus "Bloom buster" for flowering. Other Miracle-gro branded products could work too, again, depending on what exactly you're trying to accomplish (eg outdoor vs indoor, etc).

Next, as with any chemical fertilizer, you have to use it as directed. With any soluble fertilizer (not just MG) its very easy to mix up fertilizer that's too strong, or to use it too often, and these are common mistakes of new growers. A teaspoon isn't a tablespoon, and "a little good" does NOT equal "a lot better!". As a general rule of thumb, seedlings don't need any fertilizer, and young plants usually need less than normal strength. Once your plant is in good growth mode, you can probably get away with fertilizing only once per week at normal strength. If you want to fertilize more often (say every time you water) then you have to use less than normal strength, or you can damage the plants. If you are fertilizing heavily, then every once in a while (say once per month) a flush with lots of water is good to remove any possible built up fertilizer salts from your soil. And of course you flush with water 1-2 weeks before harvest, as mentioned above.

If your leaves are turning way dark green, you've got plenty of fertilizer. . .back off. If your leaf tips are turning brown, now you've got WAY too much fertilizer and have leaf burn. Flush with water and back off the fertilizer.

Last caveat is that while Miracle Gro actually is an excellent product with good trace element content, depending on your strain, soil, and other growing conditions, you *might* benefit from some additional mineral supplementation like added magnesium or calcium. But I think most people growing in ordinary soil probably won't have to.

Do these things, and I think you can have as good results with Miracle Gro, as with any other similar competing product.
 

TRFXHD

Member
interesting to say the least I can see the only issue here being the final flush procedure. Perhaps your flushing protocol isn't as optimal as it could be? especially if you're still experiencing a bad taste and smell after the fact.

Finally I wonder if there's a way to really get good results like lowering the PH to the point where all the soluble salts are released by the plant and the grow media, kinda like how you clean salt and mineral build up off of mirrors with lemon juice or vinegar.
 

gfreeman

Well-Known Member
[video=youtube;qaajzN17P-0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaajzN17P-0[/video]dont hate on miracle grow. yet another video of another guy who got trolled for his using miracle grow AND mG nutrients. well. lets just watch the video and see hows poorly his plants did.
 

budlover13

King Tut
[video=youtube;qaajzN17P-0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaajzN17P-0[/video]dont hate on miracle grow. yet another video of another guy who got trolled for his using miracle grow AND mG nutrients. well. lets just watch the video and see hows poorly his plants did.
This dude's frickin' HILARIOUS!
 
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