abandonconflict
Well-Known Member
That's why 58 thousand of you died and still lost the fucking war. Your strategy fucking sucked.
worked for me.....That's why 58 thousand of you died and still lost the fucking war. Your strategy fucking sucked.
How does testing and tracing limit the spread, I'm missing how that works.No. Some of them are also exposing infection chains by conducting rigorous testing and contact tracing. There are in fact 3 countries that have done this so effectively that they have been able to keep their economies open. We need to do that shit fucking pronto.
What I am saying, if you filter out the emotional and dramatic bullshit by people like @doublejj who make no actual sense, is that it is impossible to keep the apex of "the curve" below the baseline of the healthcare capacity all the way until there's a vaccine. If we try to do it with the economy shut we will have a famine in addition to our epidemic. Furthermore, theat baseline will not only go down everytime a nurse or doctor dies, but also as the economy tanks.
the US would need to have access to 1mil tests a day just to start to think about ending the lockdown. we have done a grand total of 3mil so far. the tests wont be available in sufficient quantities for 6 months or more...How does testing and tracing limit the spread, I'm missing how that works.
nonsense, furthermore, nobody is saying you have to take your old pasty ass outside.the US would need to have access to 1mil tests a day just to start to think about ending the lockdown. we have done a grand total of 3mil so far. the tests wont be available in sufficient quantities for 6 months or more...
Look, I suggest you read up before you get mixed up. Look at how South Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong succeeded. Different medical systems and regional health authorities around the US are already hiring tens of thousands of people for the tracing. The entire system just like Korea's could be up and running, scaled for the US in days. It would also require bringing everything under federal leadership and invading some privacy.How does testing and tracing limit the spread, I'm missing how that works.
Here are the obstacles:Ok that definitely concentrates the efforts instead of widespread shutdown, point made.
2)Dont bother with number 1 or 4, lol those are just too rich.
Donald is using fertilizer too...If you put water on the crops, they'll grow.
well then see from the skyrocketing graph how effective social distancing was... or notAbandon, here is what you are up against, I don't mean to get into guilt by association, the purpose is to illustrate how your ideas can be conflated with this utter bullshit. Reopening the economy and a Darwinian approach is being pushed by Trump and the republicans, he's even talking about illegally suspending congress now. In such times orthodoxy is being enforced on our side instinctively, it's the way we humans operate.
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Trump's big show of opening the economy will hide the real story
Trump's big show of opening the economy will hide the real story
President Donald Trump's make America open again campaign will deliver exactly what he wants Thursday -- a victory lap over the coronavirus pandemic that leaves the life and death decisions to others.www.cnn.com
(CNN)President Donald Trump's make America open again campaign will deliver exactly what he wants Thursday -- a victory lap over the coronavirus pandemic that leaves the life and death decisions to others.
Even with epicenters of the virus still suffering hundreds of deaths daily, Trump says it's time to show that America is the "comeback kid" ready to unleash a miracle economic rebirth.
The President plans to release new guidelines that tell states they can lift stay-at-home orders and ease social distancing at the discretion of their governors even before a May 1 deadline.
This ought to be a major and unifying marker in the fight against the disease that has now killed more than 30,000 Americans and has clamped economic blight on the nation.
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We are not having this debate in Canada, we have a plan and responsible government that follows expert scientific advice. Trump has put America into a deadly trap and there appears to be few ways out, the options are being constrained by every day of delay. A stark binary choice is being imposed on America by callus incompetence and dereliction of duty, it does not have to be this way at all. America is capable of amazing feats under competent leadership, this has been repeated proven historically, but the required sense of unity of purpose came at the price of suppressing minority populations. 42% approve of Trump's job performance and he will get at least 38% of the popular vote in november no matter how big the disaster he foments. With such a large percentage of the population so disconnected from reality and many hostile to government measures, no national containment policy is possible.If you put water on the crops, they'll grow.
11,525 new cases in NY up from 7,468 yesterday. Should arrest them all for clearly breaking the lockdownwell then see from the skyrocketing graph how effective social distancing was... or not
Fine them a pint or two of plasma when they recover! Ya pay in blood...11,525 new cases in NY up from 7,468 yesterday. Should arrest them all for clearly breaking the lockdown
We are not having this debate in Canada, we have a plan and responsible government that follows expert scientific advice. Trump has put America into a deadly trap and there appears to be few ways out, the options are being constrained by every day of delay. A stark binary choice is being imposed on America by callus incompetence and dereliction of duty, it does not have to be this way at all. America is capable of amazing feats under competent leadership, this has been repeated proven historically, but the required sense of unity of purpose came at the price of suppressing minority populations. 42% approve of Trump's job performance and he will get at least 38% of the popular vote in november no matter how big the disaster he foments. With such a large percentage of the population so disconnected from reality and many hostile to government measures, no national containment policy is possible.
I believe the push by certain elites to reopen the economy is the result of plasma transfusion technology that they will have available to themselves. I'm sure they are quietly buying convalescent plasma now for their own use, once their personal terror is addressed, greed will come to the fore, for they are creatures of habit, as are most people.
Lol99% of Canadians are like you
all they do and have done for the last few years is talk about trump..really..
that is ALL they do
months ago all you were talking about was impeachment
next:
myopinion
trump is doing a great job..but with you people it doesn't matter what he does ..
what that guy and usa has done insuch a short time is nothing short of amazing
yes i understand you all have trump derangement syndrome and it is NOT going away..and no vaccine will fix that
ps
how could Canadians know what is going on in Canada?
Planes from China still arrive daily with ZERO temperature checks..
canada is not cool..they are not ahead of anyone..they were and still are behind..
they are generally "nice..tolerant..if you have the same opinion pc" people who ignore canadian politics and embrace pathetic talk show
hosts and hollywood movie star's opinions..and the bought off cbc
this is a new virus..its gotta go around
a small % have it go to the lungs and then is really bad for them..
almost 90% have one or more underlying problems already
from what i can see...there will be no vaccine..and if it comes ..the virus willhave alredy gone through the population
and vaccines do not work well on older people[like me]..and we are the ones besides the plethora of over weight diabetes people
that frequent our fast food society
from what i can see we need the herd immunity to do its thing..and it will ..what goes around comes around
and it is and it will
i am fine playing the social distance game
wait too long and you gotta know we will have worse troubles than this china virus
they never shut down the world before...i believe the repercussions are way worse
ok now get back to doing what Canadians do best
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.........bashing Trump for everything