Lucius Vorenus
Well-Known Member
^ sorry formispellings. Typing on iPad
More useful info:
http://www.mmmfaq.com/light-measured-lighting-spectrum-photosythesis/
http://fotohobbist.com/blog/2011/08/19/what-kind-of-lights-ar-best-for-a-planted-aquarium/
I'm really starting to doubt the use of actinic only aquarium bulbs for the growing purpose.
Another:
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/grow-supply-product-reviews/85000-fluorescent-light-info.html
Please read thoroughly, these sites have some really good info for everyone.
I prefer peer reviewed scientific documentation...
http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/61/11/3107.full
What do you think of those videos I just posted Professeur using all 1 type of bulb?I have never advocated using actinic only... I also have never said use all red suns either, in fact i urge people to use the 75.25 bulbs or 10000k bulbs to complete the spectrum.
So, posting helpful info from other websites is not acceptable in your book? All it is for is to make people think, I never said anything about the links I posted being THE TRUTH. You never know what might spark an idea in someone else. Anyway, I am not in competition to see who can post the best link. LOLI prefer peer reviewed scientific documentation...
http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/61/11/3107.full
Have nothing to add about the topic? You really don't read do you. It really seems like you just post on here because you like to see yourself talk. BTW the 75/25 bulbs and 10,000K bulbs are just 6500K bulbs with added blue and green. This idea that you "own" this thread is completely moronic. You are not the first one to have this idea. Far from it. So telling me to start my "own" thread shows your adolescence. Compared to everyone else on here, you have contributed the LEAST. You have even said many times that you don't have time to read posts, or respond. Everyone has had an equal contribution to this thread, and although you "started" the thread, you are far from "owning" it. What a moronic idea. Congratulations! You just made my ignore list(shit-list). You haven't said one positive thing yet and your arrogance...........yuck!Second this is a PAR thread if you have nothing to add about the topic create your own thread.
I would say this really applies to you!It really seems like you just post on here because you like to see yourself talk.
You can use any type of bulb you choose, and yes the grow and bloom bulbs work, and for some that enough. i have documented and provided studies from multiple sources stating that the wavelenghts of light that im using have a beneficial impact on plant growth. I never said in any way to use actinic only or any "specific" bulb but to use a blend that COVERS THE ENTIRE SPECTRUM.What do you think of those videos I just posted Professeur using all 1 type of bulb?
Since I believe I posted a pretty damn positive response to you considering the material you recommended I appreciate the acknowledgment in this post even thought I believe you don't intend me to. My Kelvin quote came from your 3rd recommendation in that post, and had you read it yourself you would know the exact post I was talking about because it was on the FIRST PAGE. Pretty standard practice to vet your links before posting if you want to protect YOUR integrity, which has hardly been shaken in my eyes if that matters even a smidge to ya.To everyone that has only posted positive, productive things to say: Thank you for all the information and ideas you have shared. Keep up the good work and don't let these other forum jerk-offs mess with you. You have every right to post ANYWHERE on this website that you want to, so don't feel like the jerks run this place.
I have yet to see better production than what iposted in those videosusig T5.how about you guys?You can use any type of bulb you choose, and yes the grow and bloom bulbs work, and for some that enough. i have documented and provided studies from multiple sources stating that the wavelenghts of light that im using have a beneficial impact on plant growth. I never said in any way to use actinic only or any "specific" bulb but to use a blend that COVERS THE ENTIRE SPECTRUM.
Actinics have a LARGER and more balanced "blue spectrum"
red suns have a larger and more complete "red" spectrum"
Actinic light has a HUGE impact on CO2 absorbtion and as this is a PAR discussion thread and is the intent of the discussion here. were are ALL experimenting to find the good balance. If 6500k T5 is good for you great... i urge you to find others that are having success with that method and learn from them. If you are interested in PAR growing stick around there are plenty of people here who ARE ACTUALLY RUNNING PAR SETUPS.... and are providing rsults as the grows progress.
View attachment 1980152
Theories say mountain strains are used to getting more UVa and UVb at the higher elevations, and react to these wavelengths by creating more resin which acts like a sunblock for them. The same will happen when tropical strains are exposed to UV, but they're more likely to suffer from overexposure and damage than the mountain strains (afghan/kush etc.) and may benefit lessJust because I can't remember where I picked up the theory, may not have been here, but is everyone of the understanding that mountain strains expect/benefit from a certain wavelength-heavy spectrum more than jungle dominants? Translate that as you like but it would seem to be a huge factor in the formula that could be really frustrating if not accounted for.
Thanks for reading my thoughts,
MPP
No one knows who or what you are talking about, DUDE? Great another immature adolescent. EXACTLY just what everyone needs here.
To everyone that has only posted positive, productive things to say: Thank you for all the information and ideas you have shared. Keep up the good work and don't let these other forum jerk-offs mess with you. You have every right to post ANYWHERE on this website that you want to, so don't feel like the jerks run this place.
I would say this really applies to you!
I would have much more faith in you bulb selection if you made a post showing everyone day by day growth over your 10 day trial period with said bulbs.
Personally I think 150$ for 8 bulbs that last 2 years @ 12/12 is very expensive, and I'll be looking for new cheeper ways of getting phenomenal veg growth.
Page after page of long winded statements does nothing for me, I need to see the proof!
To everyone that has only posted positive, productive things to say: Thank you for all the information and ideas you have shared. Keep up the good work and don't let these other forum jerk-offs mess with you. You have every right to post ANYWHERE on this website that you want to, so don't feel like the jerks run this place.
I have yet to see good results posted. I've searched this whole thread and do not see one photo of an actual quality looking bud that makes this whole PAR T5 idea even remotely convincing that it is better than using only cheap daylight bulb. The only buds that look nice are Calrt's who vegged under a 600w MH. There are just not even close to enough lumens in a T5 bulb to provide enough energy for plants to flower properly.I have yet to see better production than what iposted in those videosusig T5.how about you guys?