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abandonconflict

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I'm a huge reader thank you, just finished volume 2 of James Holland's The War in the West. I highly recommend his books BTW . The new history writers have much more info at their disposal and contradict allot of what was once taken for fact.
I don't believe you. You couldn't even comprehend my argument before you responded to it. Then there was that mess you "wrote" about wikipedia a moment ago. Your literacy is not even high school level.
 

Lucky Luke

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Ill leave this here once more, I don't know why as Fogdog will continue to not answer it. And leave you to your witch hunts.

Jews were forced out of their homes and forced to live in ghettos were they not in Nazi Germany?

Palestinians are forced out of there homes to live in ghettos by Israel are they not?

Jews were treated like cattle in the germatic states, Palestinians are treated as second class citizens in Israel. Very similar are they not?

Whats not the same?
 

Lucky Luke

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I don't believe you. You couldn't even comprehend my argument before you responded to it. Then there was that mess you "wrote" about wikipedia a moment ago. Your literacy is not even high school level.
I'm a touch dyslectic. I have trouble with spelling and such. Farther was an editor for a major paper when he retired as a war photographer so it pains him, lol.
I read fine.
 

abandonconflict

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Ill leave this here once more, I don't know why as Fogdog will continue to not answer it. And leave you to your witch hunts.

Jews were forced out of their homes and forced to live in ghettos were they not in Nazi Germany?

Palestinians are forced out of there homes to live in ghettos by Israel are they not?

Jews were treated like cattle in the germatic states, Palestinians are treated as second class citizens in Israel. Very similar are they not?

Whats not the same?
The problem with your arguments is that you constantly belie your ignorance and lack of cognitive ability. It is hard to take your opinion seriously enough to debate with you when you come off as an idiot.

I will simplify it for you. Criticize Zionists, don't criticize Jews. That's what makes you a bigot. I was honestly giving you a pass but your response made me want to just ridicule you.
 

Lucky Luke

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The problem with your arguments is that you constantly belie your ignorance and lack of cognitive ability. It is hard to take your opinion seriously enough to debate with you when you come off as an idiot.

I will simplify it for you. Criticize Zionists, don't criticize Jews. That's what makes you a bigot. I was honestly giving you a pass but your response made me want to just ridicule you.
Israel is ruled by Jews is it not?

The Jews support Israel do they not, even if they don't live there? Are they not expected to help Mossad if asked, no questions asked? Are they not expected to serve in their Military and to return to Israel if needed? Are they not encouraged to help Israel in any way they can if able to, money, influence etc?

I don't think you can separate one from the other like you can The Vatican and Catholics.


And you didn't answer the questions.
 

Fogdog

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Yea..it is.

I don't understand how you believe that the treatment of Palestinians is horrid, unjust and very much like Nazi Germany before the Extermination camps. the ones you keep alluding to and didn't know what Poland had to do with them.. and yet your the one say look at Wiki. Now Wiki is an OK research tool but its by no means comprehensive and in some cases to cut and dried in regard to History. I'm sure in some cases its wrong or at least incomplete.
Treatment of Palestinians in some cases is horrid, unjust and very much like how the United States treats its black, Hispanic, Muslim and first peoples.

I gave you a list of differences between the status of Jews in Nazi Germany and Legal status of Arab citizens in Israel. If you want to debate any of those items I'm glad to do so. If you don't like Wikipedia then cite something else. If you cite some Iranian rag, I'll laugh. So, tell me that Palestinians don't have the right to vote or representation in government. Tell me they don't have civil rights and cite a valid reference. We can begin to have a real talk. I posted a list and all you want to argue with it without anything to back you up. I'm not going there, dude.

There is a tribe near where I live called the Siletz who signed a treaty with the US. The US congress failed to ratify it before it expired. As a result, the tribe was not recognized and their lands were taken. They finally got recognized status about 20 years ago but no lands have been repatriated. Same goes for many other first people. The US illegally stripped many tribes of their land or cheated them. The US isn't about to return those lands. Does that make the US like Nazi Germany?
 

UncleBuck

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Israel is ruled by Jews is it not?

The Jews support Israel do they not, even if they don't live there? Are they not expected to help Mossad if asked, no questions asked? Are they not expected to serve in their Military and to return to Israel if needed? Are they not encouraged to help Israel in any way they can if able to, money, influence etc?

I don't think you can separate one from the other like you can The Vatican and Catholics.


And you didn't answer the questions.
jew hater
 

Fogdog

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Israel is ruled by Jews is it not?

The Jews support Israel do they not, even if they don't live there? Are they not expected to help Mossad if asked, no questions asked? Are they not expected to serve in their Military and to return to Israel if needed? Are they not encouraged to help Israel in any way they can if able to, money, influence etc?

I don't think you can separate one from the other like you can The Vatican and Catholics.


And you didn't answer the questions.
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Lucky Luke

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Jews were forced out of their homes and forced to live in ghettos were they not in Nazi Germany?

Palestinians are forced out of there homes to live in ghettos by Israel are they not?

Jews were treated like cattle in the germatic states, Palestinians are treated as second class citizens in Israel. Very similar are they not?

Whats not the same?
 

abandonconflict

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Israel is ruled by Jews is it not?
All Jews? Having a Jewish mother makes me ruler of Israel?
The Jews support Israel do they not...
All Jews? Everywhere in the world? Of all denominations from Hasidic to Reform?
even if they don't live there?
Why would they really care unless they live there? (this question gets to the heart of it)
Are they not expected to help Mossad if asked, no questions asked?
Even if they don't live in Israel?
Are they not expected to serve in their Military and to return to Israel if needed?
Even if they don't live in Israel?
Are they not encouraged to help Israel in any way they can if able to, money, influence etc?
Even if they don't live in Israel?
I don't think you can separate one from the other like you can The Vatican and Catholics.
You don't seem to think at all.
And you didn't answer the questions.
Your questions seem to assume I support Zionism. You have already shown that you think all Jews believe and think a certain way politically so I will take that as an assumption on your part that I support Zionism.

That's called bigotry.
 

Lucky Luke

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All Jews? Having a Jewish mother makes me ruler of Israel?

All Jews? Everywhere in the world? Of all denominations from Hasidic to Reform?

Why would they really care unless they live there? (this question gets to the heart of it)

Even if they don't live in Israel?

Even if they don't live in Israel?

Even if they don't live in Israel?

You don't seem to think at all.

Your questions seem to assume I support Zionism. You have already shown that you think all Jews believe and think a certain way politically so I will take that as an assumption on your part that I support Zionism.

That's called bigotry.
No.
yes,
They are expected to are they not?
yes
yes
yes
Sometimes I don't, like all people id suspect


and didn't answer the Q again I see.
 

abandonconflict

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No.
yes,
They are expected to are they not?
yes
yes
yes
Sometimes I don't, like all people id suspect


and didn't answer the Q again I see.
Your tunnel vision is astounding. You seem to ignore anything that doesn't mesh with your hatred of Jewish people. This is disgustingly common. If you go back and read this exchange (slow down a bit), you'll likely realize you've not understood everything that's been conveyed to you. Understanding doesn't seem to be your forte, hence the whole thing where I keep calling you a bigot. In your defense, you don't seem to want to be a bigot, you just can't help it.
 

Lucky Luke

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Jews were forced out of their homes and forced to live in ghettos were they not in Nazi Germany?

Palestinians are forced out of there homes to live in ghettos by Israel are they not?

Jews were treated like cattle in the germatic states, Palestinians are treated as second class citizens in Israel. Very similar are they not?

Whats not the same?


Your not answering because it IS the same. Rather than accept that you would rather witch hunt and hurl tags.

I don't support what Israel is doing and in these comparisons is what Germany did to the Jewish people. They are doing to others what was once done to them. You would think they of all people would not be doing this. You can call me all sorts of names for making this comparison but it stands.

Now this seems to be going round and round in circles so ill leave you to it. Hope you all have a great evening.
 

abandonconflict

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Jews were forced out of their homes and forced to live in ghettos were they not in Nazi Germany?

Palestinians are forced out of there homes to live in ghettos by Israel are they not?

Jews were treated like cattle in the germatic states, Palestinians are treated as second class citizens in Israel. Very similar are they not?

Whats not the same?


Your not answering because it IS the same. Rather than accept that you would rather witch hunt and hurl tags.

I don't support what Israel is doing and in these comparisons is what Germany did to the Jewish people. They are doing to others what was once don't to them. You would think they of all people would not be doing this. You can call me all sorts of names for making this comparison but it stands.

Now this seems to be going round and round in circles so ill leave you to it. Hope you all have a great evening.
Yeah, go away, dumb ass. Quit taking us around in your Jew-hating circles. It doesn't help our support of Palestine when you inject so much bigotry into it.
 

ttystikk

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Repeating antisemitic propaganda makes you what then?

By repeating this propaganda lie, you are actually saying that Israel has an extermination policy regarding Palestinians. tty said the same. I completely agree that Israel is a pugnacious military state and disagree with US policies that support them. I disagree that anybody can equate Israel with Nazi Germany in scope, size, scale and intent of their actions.
What language is that?

Bullshit?

Stupid?

He posted accurate maps and you can't even acknowledge them. You're a sick bigoted racist as bad as Buck.
 
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