Is Biden really that bad?

Wattzzup said:

That’s a funny clip. My favorite part is the “oof”

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Hotrod2 said:

There are lots of false narratives.

Do you enjoy insulting people or is it just become a habit for you

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then why ask? How about presenting some, with sound references?

sunni said:

eek folks personal attacks arent allowed

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I’m sorry !

Due to overwhelming out roar from the community and numerous PM's. I have decided to change it back sooner than I planned. I hope you all understand.

PadawanWarrior said:

Due to overwhelming out roar from the community and numerous PM's. I have decided to change it back sooner than I planned. I hope you all understand.

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CANON_Grow said:

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You're just mad we got the Stanley Cup.

PJ Diaz said:

Liberals fume over Biden’s turn against home rule in decision on DC crime bill

Progressives have turned their fire toward President Biden for siding with Republicans on a District of Columbia crime bill that overturns its governing body’s legislation. Liberal lawmakers&nbsp…

thehill.com

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There appears to be a bit of a pattern developing that he ignores the will of the people, but politely. If he does run again and has to go up against DeSantis, how can he attack the overreach that is happening in FL?

CANON_Grow said:

There appears to be a bit of a pattern developing that he ignores the will of the people, but politely. If he does run again and has to go up against DeSantis, how can he attack the overreach that is happening in FL?

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First of all I'd say that he needs to refrain from continually being disingenuous. That said, which overreach exactly are you referring to?

I’m not a fan 1 - economics. When you print money it causes inflation, he is ok with inflating our country to aid another one. They supported to raise minimum wage then made the new wage worth the same as the old min.
I support 2A because I don’t want my great great grandchildren lined up to be killed because I voted out their only protection from a tyrannical government. to assume one will never again be formed is ignorant.
I think the pharma companies have him in their pockets. Get the vax! Now silence when they are linking it to heart problems.
I believe that he is part of a huge smoke and mirror bs two party system that both sides are doing all they can to keep from letting the people find out who is the kid diddlers and who isn’t.
red/blue : you are being manipulated and until enough honest people shine through inoffice it won’t change

Dixonsideproject said:

I’m not a fan 1 - economics. When you print money it causes inflation, he is ok with inflating our country to aid another one. They supported to raise minimum wage then made the new wage worth the same as the old min.
I support 2A because I don’t want my great great grandchildren lined up to be killed because I voted out their only protection from a tyrannical government. to assume one will never again be formed is ignorant.
I think the pharma companies have him in their pockets. Get the vax! Now silence when they are linking it to heart problems.
I believe that he is part of a huge smoke and mirror bs two party system that both sides are doing all they can to keep from letting the people find out who is the kid diddlers and who isn’t.
red/blue : you are being manipulated and until enough honest people shine through inoffice it won’t change

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Welcome to the Dark Side,

CANON_Grow said:

There appears to be a bit of a pattern developing that he ignores the will of the people, but politely. If he does run again and has to go up against DeSantis, how can he attack the overreach that is happening in FL?

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While i can see the corollary, it appears rather weak to me, mostly because of the personalities and the goals involved...
Biden has a personality, and while his goals may not be perfect, they don't involve guys in brown shirts and boots controlling the school system.
desantis is a pouting, strutting dictator, already grabbing as much personal power as possible. You can't allow someone with that much overreach to step into higher office, extending their grasp.

PJ Diaz said:

First of all I'd say that he needs to refrain from continually being disingenuous. That said, which overreach exactly are you referring to?

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HB1467- the books law, blocking AP African-American studies in colleges, and using Reedy Creek to apply pressure against a company that disagreed with him.

PJ Diaz said:

First of all I'd say that he needs to refrain from continually being disingenuous. That said, which overreach exactly are you referring to?

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Example 1: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-desantis-disney-takeover-fallout-20230303-kic4ilg3yngxpegvexppfyayea-story.html

Example 2: https://www.foxnews.com/media/florida-bill-proposes-bloggers-covering-desantis-must-register-state-slammed-unconstitutional

Example 3: Dont say Gay law

Example 4: Don't call me homophobe law

Roger A. Shrubber said:

While i can see the corollary, it appears rather weak to me, mostly because of the personalities and the goals involved...
Biden has a personality, and while his goals may not be perfect, they don't involve guys in brown shirts and boots controlling the school system.
desantis is a pouting, strutting dictator, already grabbing as much personal power as possible. You can't allow someone that that much overreach to step into higher office, extending their grasp.

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I agree that DeSantis is way, way worse. There is no comparison there.

time to cool off for a bit folks i said no personal attacks.
and i certainly DONT tolerate threats of violence.

CANON_Grow said:

HB1467- the books law, blocking AP African-American studies in colleges, and using Reedy Creek to apply pressure against a company that disagreed with him.

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I don't follow Florida politics much, so I'll have to look into these a bit.

shimbob said:

Example 1: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-desantis-disney-takeover-fallout-20230303-kic4ilg3yngxpegvexppfyayea-story.html

Example 2: https://www.foxnews.com/media/florida-bill-proposes-bloggers-covering-desantis-must-register-state-slammed-unconstitutional

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shimbob said:

Example 3: Dont say Gay law

Example 4: Don't call me homophobe law

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I did look into example 3, and the "Don't say Gay law" isn't really a law against saying "gay". It's a law against discussing sexuality with kids 3rd grade and under. Why is that bad? It might as well be called, "Don't say straight", because it would be an equally accurate misnomer.

I don't know about example 4, so perhaps you could point me to that law.

The question was, how can Biden attack this overreach on the campaign trail? I'll have to think about that one a bit. I'm never been much of a campaigner.

sunni said:

i certainly tolerate threats of violence.

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since when?

PJ Diaz said:

I did look into example 3, and the "Don't say Gay law" isn't really a law against saying "gay". It's a law against discussing sexuality with kids 3rd grade and under. Why is that bad? It might as well be called, "Don't say straight", because it would be an equally accurate misnomer.

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Why did you leave out "or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards." that is one of the big concerns of that law? Being that the state curriculum doesn't teach about sexual orientation in third grade and under, certainly looks like a tool for removing people that don't conform to DeSantis's and conservative ideologies from the school system.

I'm pretty sure DeSantis saw "The Handmaid's Tale" and decided that is what he wants, and is well on his way in creating that.