Iran kick off looking iminant?

beardo

beardo

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Why are we hearing so much about Iran and nukes but nothing about the radiation thats being added to our drinking water? I'm more concerned about radiation in my water than radiation in the middle east
 
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ralf

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beardo said:
I think no one is justified in going nuclear- including us, nuclear power is something that affects everyone not just those with a say or a vote-it is against the laws of humanity- Nuclear and biological and chemical weapons should not be developed or funded or allowed to exist and knowladge on how to make them should be eradicated-
All that being said, yes I can totally understand why Iran wants nukes and if they attacked Israel or the US I wouldn't be supprised after all the threats being thrown back and forth. As far as preventing them from making one? I'm not sure, yes preventing more Nukes is a good cause, but not if it's just we can continue to threaten them with ours- who are we to decide who can and can not have nukes? I would support it if we were going to prevent Iran from getting nukes while going after North Korea and their nukes and Packistan and their nukes and Israel and their nukes and Russia and so on- If we are ready to go get all the worlds nukes and destroy them and those who make them, then I am all for it- If we just want to make sure Iran is defenceless when we invade and set up a centeral bank and put them in debt to the IMF then no I am totally against it
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I agree totally with everything you said here and its reassuring to know that the majority of people who have posted here agree with us, it gives me great hope that one day, we will see a nuke free world. Multilateral Nuclear Disarmament is definitely the way to go.
 
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ralf

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beardo said:
Why are we hearing so much about Iran and nukes but nothing about the radiation thats being added to our drinking water? I'm more concerned about radiation in my water than radiation in the middle east
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Radiation in your drinking water? Do you live in Europe by any chance?

I read an article in the Daily Mail a couple of days ago, that said a cloud of radiation was spreading over Europe and no one knew where it was coming from. It had not reached Britain though up to that point thankfully, although obviously there is still time for that to happen.

There is certainly something strange going on in Europe at the moment.
 
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ralf

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beardo said:
Iran is now talking about reconsidering their cowoperation with the IAE...
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That can only be a good thing, although Israel should then follow suit for this to work out fair to Iran. I have just googled for information on the point of Iran complying, but i cant find anything on it, it does usually take a while to the internet though i think, so I’ll be looking for it over the next couple of days.
 
beardo

beardo

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ralf said:
That can only be a good thing, although Israel should then follow suit for this to work out fair to Iran. I have just googled for information on the point of Iran complying, but i cant find anything on it, it does usually take a while to the internet though i think, so I’ll be looking for it over the next couple of days.
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I think its actually going the other way - Thay have been allowing the IAE inspections and cowoperating- now they are considering not allowing them into the country
 
beardo

beardo

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canniboss said:
If I wanted to attack or invade Pakistan I would head-fake towards Iran
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We allready attacking and invading Packistan on a regular basis- I think the head fake is for Syria- Were probably going to attack them around christmas or after the elections
 
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Coals

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ralf said:
I agree with you totally, so WHY is Israel pushing for an attack?

What would they gain from it?
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Because the same people that control us, also control ISreal. We are all one EMPIRE. Iran has an economy, oil, and a millitary all sitting there. The people that control our millitary just have to go in and take it. Its not just the oil they want, its the labour of the people as well. They see a nation of people without usury and that is un-acceptable.


We and Isreal and all our other allies ahve been commanded to spend hundreds of trillions of dollars on the millitray industrial complex. That huge machine can't just sit around forever doing nothing. These people invested in that machine and expect some return on their investment. And don't forget, all down the line people make money and therefore are pushing for war. Oil companies, private security firms, mercenaries, defence contractors, rebuilding contractors, support contractors etc etc etc.
 
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ralf

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beardo said:
I think its actually going the other way - Thay have been allowing the IAE inspections and cowoperating- now they are considering not allowing them into the country
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Uh oh, that’s definitely not good news, i don’t understand why they would do that, because i genuinely don’t believe that they are trying to build a nuke. I wouldn't blame them of they did, but i am still sure that are not. There is an interview on the net, where Ahmadinejad bad mouths nukes, he even said he believes that the world has reached tipping point on nuclear arms and that he believes all countries will soon be disarming.

Lets just hope for two things here 1. He is correct on that point and 2. That they are disarming nuclear missiles, because they have something more deadly waiting in the wings.

If we look at this objectively, its only a matter of time before something more fiendish comes along anyway, in fact secrecy being what it is and according to some reports from Iraq, there are some more fiendish weapons out there already. G-d help us.
 
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ralf

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Coals said:
Because the same people that control us, also control ISreal. We are all one EMPIRE. Iran has an economy, oil, and a millitary all sitting there. The people that control our millitary just have to go in and take it. Its not just the oil they want, its the labour of the people as well. They see a nation of people without usury and that is un-acceptable.


We and Isreal and all our other allies ahve been commanded to spend hundreds of trillions of dollars on the millitray industrial complex. That huge machine can't just sit around forever doing nothing. These people invested in that machine and expect some return on their investment. And don't forget, all down the line people make money and therefore are pushing for war. Oil companies, private security firms, mercenaries, defence contractors, rebuilding contractors, support contractors etc etc etc.
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With out a doubt, you have every point intelligently covered.......except one. And that point is, how the hell we do stop these people? Because I honestly don’t know.
 
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ralf

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beardo said:
We allready attacking and invading Packistan on a regular basis- I think the head fake is for Syria- Were probably going to attack them around christmas or after the elections
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What excuse do you think they will use this time? It cant possibly be WOMD again.......or can it? Unless they are organising a rebel force for democracy again, it worked a treat for them in Libya.
 
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ralf

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Coals said:
Because the same people that control us, also control ISreal. We are all one EMPIRE. Iran has an economy, oil, and a millitary all sitting there. The people that control our millitary just have to go in and take it. Its not just the oil they want, its the labour of the people as well. They see a nation of people without usury and that is un-acceptable.


We and Isreal and all our other allies ahve been commanded to spend hundreds of trillions of dollars on the millitray industrial complex. That huge machine can't just sit around forever doing nothing. These people invested in that machine and expect some return on their investment. And don't forget, all down the line people make money and therefore are pushing for war. Oil companies, private security firms, mercenaries, defence contractors, rebuilding contractors, support contractors etc etc etc.
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You undoubtedly have every point intelligently covered..........every point except one that is and that point is, How the hell do we stop these people? Because i have absolutely no idea.
 
The Ruiner

The Ruiner

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Bank_of_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Clearing_Union

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Economic_and_Social_Commission_for_Asia_and_the_Pacific



Critics believe that this law has simply created the context for legitimizing
usury or riba. In reality all banks are charging their borrowers a fixed pre-set amount at a rate of interest that is approved by the Central Bank at least once a year. No goods or services are exchanged as part of these contracts and banks rarely assume any Commercial Risk. High value collateral items such as real estate commmercial paper bank guarantees and machinery eliminate any risk of loss. In case of defaults or bankruptcies, the principle amount, the expected interest and the late fees are collected through possession and or sale of secured collaterals.[22]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatization_in_Iran

Yes...it's because of those damn Persians without their Usury that we have to bomb them...because they are SO far outside of the system. Zion will rise!

You guys are so whacked out of your minds, it scares me to think we live in the same world.
 
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ralf

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Is the terrorist state israel at it again? It is s tarting to look like it, just one more mass murder by israel i reckon, some things never change eh?



Moghaddam was said to be responsible for 'industrial research aimed at ensuring self-sufficiency of the Revolutionary Guards' armaments'.
Commentators on Iran believe this is a coded way of saying he was responsible for its missile inventory. Richard Silverstein, who regularly reveals information censored inside Israel, said on his blog that a source confirmed Mossad had worked with exile group the People's Mojaheddin of Iran (MEK) on the blast.

He said: 'It is widely known within intelligence circles that the Israelis use the MEK for varied acts of espionage and terror.'
It is the latest 'disaster' to hit Iran's nuclear programme in the last two years. In 2010, 18 people were killed after an explosion at a base which housed Shahab-3 long-range missiles. It was also put down to a fire in an ammunition depot.

In the same year, a senior nuclear scientist was killed and another injured when their cars were attacked with 'sticky bombs' by men on motorbikes.
And a highly sophisticated computer worm which caused centrifuges used for enriching uranium to spin out of control was also blamed on the Israelis.

Mossad, which never claims responsibility for attacks, has been suspected of being involved in all of the incidents.
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