injunction/court case updates

leaffan · Mar 12, 2015

c ray said:
the greens are hoping for a dozen MPs this time around

They should already have that!!!
Good leader with very questionable political strategic capabilities.
Ask yourself why they don't already have more seats....damn still pissed about this...

Wanted to edit the "good leader"...but not sure what I want to put in there....

c ray · Mar 12, 2015

whatever it was it worked

leaffan · Mar 12, 2015

c ray said:
whatever it was it worked

Yes...but that was really two conservative branches merging. The west joining the east as I see it...
NDP and Liberals joining....I see that as a real stretch. ( they don't like each other )

c ray · Mar 12, 2015

we just have to keep battling in court because the politicians are not working for us

leaffan · Mar 12, 2015

c ray said:
we just have to keep battling in court because the politicians are not working for us

Yes....the courts are the key I think.

WHATFG · Mar 12, 2015

I think change is in the wind...this judge seems to have his shit together as far as I can tell...telling a witness they are stuck in a box until their testimony is done...high 5 on that....I didn't understand the purpose of the guy from Isreal..and he was our witness...and I read his affidavit....this 3g limit has me concerned...

VIANARCHRIS · Mar 12, 2015

leaffan said:
Yes....the courts are the key I think.

What about this...if we are forced to get a doctor to renew our script and they refuse, I file a human rights complaint. If the courts have said I am to be guaranteed access and the docs deny me that access, they are violating my rights.

WHATFG · Mar 12, 2015

VIANARCHRIS said:
What about this...if we are forced to get a doctor to renew our script and they refuse, I file a human rights complaint. If the courts have said I am to be guaranteed access and the docs deny me that access, they are violating my rights.

First it's not if the courts...the courts have...very valid argument.

VIANARCHRIS · Mar 12, 2015

WHATFG said:
I think change is in the wind...this judge seems to have his shit together as far as I can tell...telling a witness they are stuck in a box until their testimony is done...high 5 on that....I didn't understand the purpose of the guy from Isreal..and he was our witness...and I read his affidavit....this 3g limit has me concerned...

I really don't understand the point of any non-Canadian witnesses. This should be a made-in-Canada decision, by Canadians and for Canadian patients.

c ray · Mar 12, 2015

like this guy for instance

http://muhc.ca/newsroom/node/42977/

user hidden · Mar 12, 2015

WHATFG said:
I think change is in the wind...this judge seems to have his shit together as far as I can tell...telling a witness they are stuck in a box until their testimony is done...high 5 on that....I didn't understand the purpose of the guy from Isreal..and he was our witness...and I read his affidavit....this 3g limit has me concerned...

Baruch was a "defendant" witness meaning for HC not us.
we are the "plaintiff" side
today's witness Sandvos from the Netherlands is as well an HC witness, as well witness Grootendorst.
Tomorrow's witness NASH is a rebuttal for our side (plaintiff)
Then it's up to Judge Phelan

doingdishes · Mar 12, 2015

one thing i get from the John Conroy/Jason Wilcox video was that there is a lot of evidence the judge has to go over. they give their evidence in writing. both sides go over the evidence and then whe that witness is on the stand, they ask questions based on what they submitted so we are not in on a lot of the case.

doingdishes · Mar 12, 2015

leaffan said:
The key point Chris is making is if there is a change in federal power. ...and it is true we don't know what the Liberals will do if elected.

neither do they...haha

doingdishes · Mar 12, 2015

leaffan said:
I have to agree with Raider. I have said in the past and continue to say that regardless of the outcome this will drag on for years.
I say this based on the history of Court decisions and demands made of HC to make changes, and how HC responds.
HC will appeal everything, delay, and implement the bare minimum.

It takes time for change. Small steps. We are moving forward though.

I tell you what moves change faster though...having some patients (martyrs?) get arrested and go to trial. If cases get into court it speeds things up. Why do you think there have been no charges and trials for concentrates over the last year?
You think the feds want to go to court with a home grow cultivation charge of 12 plants with a patient?....No way, they know they will lose. Better for them to not lay the charges.
I've said this over a year ago...the best thing to happen is to get a few volunteers to be demanded to be arrested and go to court.

get a pool together for the lawyer fees & off we go! i don't know if i would volunteer for that one though

doingdishes · Mar 12, 2015

R.Raider said:
Conroy himself said this could go 4-5 years. New patients who didn't get into the MMAR or patients who missed the renew dead line are gonna get screwed for a while...sucks.

hopefully people who need changes can get them though...SOON!!!!!

R.Raider · Mar 12, 2015

doingdishes said:
hopefully people who need changes can get them though...SOON!!!!!

That would be nice but doesn't sound like it's going to happen. Sucks though.

Doobius1 · Mar 12, 2015

I have the same feeling I had when I was a kid waiting for Christmas. You know you are going to get something, you just hope its what you want. And the waiting...oh the waiting

doingdishes · Mar 12, 2015

R.Raider said:
That would be nice but doesn't sound like it's going to happen. Sucks though.

that's why Turmel stepped up!
the Conroy video, Conroy says they drafted up an appeal as well but there's no mention of it anywhere. If Conroy had one more plaintiff-valid ATP & PPL but need changes-we wouldn't be in this situation....well there would still be an issue for those who's lic's weren't renewed

doingdishes · Mar 12, 2015

i don't have the witness list so I have to ask-they usually don't work on Fridays so is today the last day?

R.Raider · Mar 12, 2015

doingdishes said:
i don't have the witness list so I have to ask-they usually don't work on Fridays so is today the last day?

They worked last Friday I think. probably one more day still I bet.

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