ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize

Thats crazy, this is why I always tell people that seem to think that solvent-less is inherently clean. Not to say there aren't some worse problems with Honey oil, but it's alot harder to make something that'll hurt the patient on the end like mold would. There's people who blast with pvc and copper just like there are people that will make bubble in non food grade buckets, or dirty water. Now i'm not saying i wouldn't care if my extract is clean, i definitely wouldn't touch anything that was made with inferior solvent, just as i wouldn't touch hash that had mold or moisture in it. But its sort of ironic too, because most of the people that hear about solvent-less as a new thing, probably aren't vaping. Who here can say they never used gas station lighters for their flowers or hash. Lol ok rant over. Hopefully i can get a camera soon and post some pics of my latest batch of solvent-less.

GreatLakesKind said:

Thats crazy, this is why I always tell people that seem to think that solvent-less is inherently clean. Not to say there aren't some worse problems with Honey oil, but it's alot harder to make something that'll hurt the patient on the end like mold would. There's people who blast with pvc and copper just like there are people that will make bubble in non food grade buckets, or dirty water. Now i'm not saying i wouldn't care if my extract is clean, i definitely wouldn't touch anything that was made with inferior solvent, just as i wouldn't touch hash that had mold or moisture in it. But its sort of ironic too, because most of the people that hear about solvent-less as a new thing, probably aren't vaping. Who here can say they never used gas station lighters for their flowers or hash. Lol ok rant over. Hopefully i can get a camera soon and post some pics of my latest batch of solvent-less.

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You can touch Hash with mold or moisture, you just have to do a cleaning and drying job before you smoke it. Quite easy actually with water, quite impossible with solvent. Same goes for mites, caterpillars, etc.

Where would you get food grade buckets possibly?

I am not sure what that whiteness is, but I pulled apart both chunks of hash and there was no more of that white mold looking stuff... wouldnt there be more than 1 tiny specs throughout the 33 grams thats been sitting since before christmas?

I smoked the center, light brown stuff and it crackled on the nail... typical water sound. but the outside edges get you fucking stoned. usually have 1 hoot after work.. sit for 5 mins then have another 1 or 2 hoots. with this hash, I had 1 hoot after work and didnt need another one for like 2 hours!!! I love it. very potent, and tasty.

and if that tiny tiny white spec is the only mold I gotta worry about, then the rest of the hash is completely fine

I do let chunks dry out, it turns into a soft, sticky, red/black hash. just as tasty, but no crackle from the water.

I'm not sure you /really/ need to worry about food grade buckets with the hash process.


unless there is proof that there is leeching below 35F.... because you're going to be keeping those buckets damn near freezing. though I suppose there's always a lead content to be considered, but if we're talking plastic buckets, it's probably just PVC's... which I"m pretty sure don't leech at cold temperatures in a water based environment.... correct me if I"m wrong? (with facts and science please.)

vacpurge said:

I am not sure what that whiteness is, but I pulled apart both chunks of hash and there was no more of that white mold looking stuff... wouldnt there be more than 1 tiny specs throughout the 33 grams thats been sitting since before christmas?

I smoked the center, light brown stuff and it crackled on the nail... typical water sound. but the outside edges get you fucking stoned. usually have 1 hoot after work.. sit for 5 mins then have another 1 or 2 hoots. with this hash, I had 1 hoot after work and didnt need another one for like 2 hours!!! I love it. very potent, and tasty.

and if that tiny tiny white spec is the only mold I gotta worry about, then the rest of the hash is completely fine

I do let chunks dry out, it turns into a soft, sticky, red/black hash. just as tasty, but no crackle from the water.

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The whiteness is MOLD, take it for granted. You have just one little speck or two, but be very careful it spread super fast, like I say I am quite the specialist on mold. Break up evenly your plugs, dry thoroughly and repress, DO IT ASAP.
You have some really good looking trichomes in your hand that you seems to enjoy, so don't let them go moldy and totally unhealthy.

vacpurge said:

part two.. I paid 15$ a gram:

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Yuck.........

vacpurge said:

lol, since when are you an expert? as of the 24th, you knew dick all: https://www.rollitup.org/concentrates-extracts/656872-qwiso-question-s.html

yuck? yeah right!! apart from that one little shit spot, and a random hair that I removed, the other 32.5g of that hash is fucking delicious. 2 hoots is all I need after work and im as stoned as I was if I smoked BHO. except my BHO takes tons of alcohols and dangerou gasses to make, and costs more than 15$ a g in the long run. im loving this hash. the center of the one on the right could be dried out a little more ill admit. it loses around 5% in weight (water) and also crackle a little bit on the nail due to the water still in it. no mold though!! dry that shit up and its top notch, the outside stuff is its final stage.

the one on the left with the white patch had no more white patches, its half broken into smaller pieces, other half is in freezer, then I grind it while frozen... turns out very nicely.

ive thrown 10g balls of this in the vacuum chamber, and seen 50gs of it dissolved in everclear for 35g of some amazingly tasty, smooth, and potent oil.

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that's cool that you think it's amazing. but if it had been done PROPERLY it would be stunningly astonishing.


it appears you are the one who doesn't know 'dick' in this subject, I suggest you sit back and do a little more reading eh?

here's what properly cured ice water hash looks like... that's 90 and 73 micron mixed together since I didn't have a 90 bag at the time......



its a lot easier to learn when you come from a position of humbleness instead of being a smart ass know-it-all. believe me, I would know.

G-13 Ice Wax. Thanks Matt. This ones for you...

vacpurge said:

lol, since when are you an expert? as of the 24th, you knew dick all: https://www.rollitup.org/concentrates-extracts/656872-qwiso-question-s.html

yuck? yeah right!! apart from that one little shit spot, and a random hair that I removed, the other 32.5g of that hash is fucking delicious. 2 hoots is all I need after work and im as stoned as I was if I smoked BHO. except my BHO takes tons of alcohols and dangerou gasses to make, and costs more than 15$ a g in the long run. im loving this hash. the center of the one on the right could be dried out a little more ill admit. it loses around 5% in weight (water) and also crackle a little bit on the nail due to the water still in it. no mold though!! dry that shit up and its top notch, the outside stuff is its final stage.

the one on the left with the white patch had no more white patches, its half broken into smaller pieces, other half is in freezer, then I grind it while frozen... turns out very nicely.

ive thrown 10g balls of this in the vacuum chamber, and seen 50gs of it dissolved in everclear for 35g of some amazingly tasty, smooth, and potent oil.

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i was gettin hash that looked about like that stuff, great stuff, tasted decent, but not amazing, and had a good bubble, so i would take 5g's at a time and did iso soaks along with double filtering with winterizing, and i pulled waxes out of someone elses concentrates that way several times, and then id do natural evapes. i reaally enjoyed the final product that way much more, unfortunately thoe it still had that hash it came from taste to it and not so much a fresh bud taste you get when makin from flowers

Sorry I'm sure it's here but there's a million posts.

I do everything the same up to chopping it up and letting it dry, but I'm pretty sure I over dry, because mine doesn't look like that (mine looks more solid, that looks more like frozen honey...) also I use a drill in 5 gal buckets... I think I'm over agetating. Please someone give me the reccomended stir time with this method (I do 15 min of almost constant mixing w the drill)

Hi matt...thanks for all the info, very informative. U mentioned u have a blog where all the info is listed without all the filler noise...can u direct me that please? tried to find it on ur profile page but with no success.thank u

vacpurge said:

well if that mold, then I FUCKIN LOVE MOLDY HASH!!!!! the inside smells so delicious, its sticky like pure honey oil. perfect, I love it!!

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It seems you do love moldy wet hash. Its not your fault, traditional hash methods have fallen short in drying technique, this is why people press their trichomes to squeeze the water out. This is also why I created the ice wax methods. If your hash sizzles, its not just wet, its very wet. Trichomes are blonde, period point blank. Exposure to heat and pressure only drives off the terpenoids present. This is science not folklore.

I will be deleting all pics of moldy hash off this thread. This thread is not here to teach people how to make moldy hash. Also, all solvent extracts will be deleted, this is off topic. Please, if you want to teach people your failtech-pressing-wet-hash then start your own threads.

Food grade everything can be found at "Cash and Carry" a chain in most major cities that caters to restaurants.

TheHashCollector said:

Hi matt...thanks for all the info, very informative. U mentioned u have a blog where all the info is listed without all the filler noise...can u direct me that please? tried to find it on ur profile page but with no success.thank u

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Sorry, I took the blog down. And RIU is the official homebase of the Ice Wax tutorial. Watch Weed Nerd 113 for the updates to my old youtube video.

vacpurge said:

very interesting... so trapping water inside is a good thing??

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Depends who you ask.

If the hash is not the color of trichome heads after drying (blonde to amber) the hash has water trapped it in, this is based on scientific lab results of my hash. Or just look at dry screen extracts, all blonde. Pressing will turn the hash dark, but it should be blonde before pressing.

Not many water hash makers talk about water levels in water hash. Its not like BHO where you are purging the solvent out under heat and vac. Hash dries via evaporation, based on room temp and humidity, and of equal importance, surface area. Most water hash drying techniques do not remove enough water imo, thats why ice wax techniques were formed and shared. If you follow my techs your hash will not mold. Water content in water hash is usually around 5%, but I have seen up to 20% on some pressed hashish. If your hash is darkening during the drying stage, the room is too hot and your hash is not broken up enough to prevent oxidation and degradation. FACTS.

You sir, are pressing way too early, while your hash is wet. Let it dry man! If you are not using a microplane, then drying will take a week or longer is a cold dry room, aka solventless wax drying tech. Im sure your wet pressed hash tastes good, wet hash tastes great, but its mold city.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeah real fucking funny question eh.

was this a shit talking post that got edited? ^^^

god damn rights it is. the little douchebag erased the pictures + questions I had up of some very nice bubble hash that a buddy made because it had a microscopic spot of mold.

so he says, "This thread is not here to teach people how to make moldy hash. if you want to teach people your failtech-pressing-wet-hash then start your own thread" talk about being a fucking asshole!!!!!!!!!!

He's just stating the facts man chill.

so am I man... so am I.