ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize

sometimes the truth hurts, make you act like a fool.

I know its the truth. there was a tiny spec of mold which I have more than dealt with. ripped the remaining 15g into about 150 smaller chunks and not a single other spec was found. is that really a reason to erase all the pictures I posted here for others to see and learn from?

the part that pisses me off is the fact that he erased all the pictures of some nice hash that im sure the other members here would have like to have seen, as well as learned what not to do and prevent the mold if it happens, like in my case.

but no, instead he says I am teaching bad ways after I posted a picture!! what a crock of fucking shit that statement is right there. I received the hash like that, ripped it in half, posted a picture to ask what you guys think, and thats when others here noticed that the flash of the camera had really made the tiny moldy patch stand out on one of my pucks.

like I said, ive read before that matt rize can be a punk asshole.. that was the first time ive seen it and now I know what they mean.

by showing pics of that hash, newbies would scroll over it and mistake it for a desireable consistency, thus following what you did and being misinformed. THAT is why he deleted your pictures.


and as a global moderator of this website I totally agree with him. if we need to take this to the owner of the site I feel that would be a complete waste of time, but I think this issue is over with.

bullshit. you guys are a bunch of fucking idiots if you think newbies are going to assume thats a desirable consistency especially considering the questions that are asked along with the pictures and the answers/advice given afterwards.

This is the Ice Wax with Matt Rize thread, not the guy with moldy hash calling professionals idiots thread. Rize up

I figured maybe a hash noob could come in the official bubble hash thread and show some bubble hash he acquired and ask some questions. guess not. what a fuckin joke. theres a reason they chewed up and spit this clown out ad ICmag.

im not taking sides but i thought matts post was hilarious! i know from seeing vacs previous posts he was trying to learn and do shit right, these were defs pics and ?s for frenchys thread.

vacpurge said:

I figured maybe a hash noob could come in the official bubble hash thread and show some bubble hash he acquired and ask some questions. guess not. what a fuckin joke. theres a reason they chewed up and spit this clown out ad ICmag.

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that's different, you didn't come in acting like that.

you came in defending that hash first, your perspective had to be beaten out of you, and now you're left calling us pricks for revealing the truth to you. if you proceed to be an asshole nobody is going to teach you shit, then you can go back to IC mag and say yeah you guys were right even though matt rize is actually doing business selling this shit on a daily basis .

Norcal Sourdees Ice Wax. 70 micron. Fresh frozen trim. ^^Unpressed, and made by my girlfriend.

Same ice wax... I pressed a little into "real hash" for Frenchie. We call it solventless ice water shatter.


Here is another comparison:
KC 36 Ice Wax we just dropped at CCA (outdoor trim from the fall)

Post pocket cure, it melted into "real hash"

Wow look at that crystal. Best 'shatter' I've seen, period. Stepping up the game once again that stuff is ridankulous Matt thanks for sharing some REAL proper hashish.

Matt Rize said:

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Norcal Sourdees Ice Wax. 70 micron. Fresh frozen trim. ^^Unpressed, and made by my girlfriend.

Same ice wax... I pressed a little into "real hash" for Frenchie. We call it solventless ice water shatter.
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Here is another comparison:
KC 36 Ice Wax we just dropped at CCA (outdoor trim from the fall)
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Post pocket cure, it melted into "real hash"
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Hey, I appreciate the effort of the little press, I always go for a little more press, I go to the the darker side.
Anyway gorgeous chunk, we process different but we have the same standards.
What was the strain???

That ice shatter was hand pressed?

Frenchy Cannoli said:

Hey, I appreciate the effort of the little press, I always go for a little more press, I go to the the darker side.
Anyway gorgeous chunk, we process different but we have the same standards.
What was the strain???

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I think it is Sour Diesel. From a grower named NorCalSourDees

So Matt first off thanx for what your doing, and f--kn ridiculous ice shatter, and waxs etc....your definetly lovin life! Just got off this weird bho wax/shatter thing. A light shined in my brain when I came across your methods! I can't believe I'm seeing this! Now I don't wanna be around bho anymore. Before bho though I was making bubble ,but the wrong way tomorrow morn I'm gonna try your method.cant wait, its been about 4 years since I've made bubble. Got everything I need I believe... Microplane,ss strainer,fresh frozen sour Kush and OG sugar leaf trim, 8 bag wacky bags all mesh,dry (pressing) screen, cold r/o water and homemade r/o ice. Mini washing machine, etc...and this thread.
my plan for keeping this crap cold here in so cal where it's been I believe 70 during the day....
-cleared spot in my refrigerator for the mini washing machine, gonna let it mix in there......(two 3 min cycles, and one 15 min cycle to finish it off.....??
- gonna use all 8 bags this time around, and figure out what they look like under microscope when all done, to try to figure out what bags to use in the future....
- when its done ill take washer out and set it on counter while I drain in bags.....
- then from what I learned here....scoop,collect, wick out as much water as possible with paper towels, no pressing
- then I chill,(ill probably throw it in freezer for a bit.....???) micro plane over Ss strainer and spread out over ( I'm gonna use a refrigerated ceramic dinner plate.....???)
- then to cure I found my refrigerator to be 38 degrees f and 40% humidity, so I'm gonna try there .......??? Ill cover plate with silk screen and check it every day..... I really can't find any other place around my house that is cold and low humidity, to me this is the hardest part.......
thanks again though Matt rize for sharing with us, stoked!

Frenchy Cannoli said:

Hey, I appreciate the effort of the little press, I always go for a little more press, I go to the the darker side.
Anyway gorgeous chunk, we process different but we have the same standards.
What was the strain???

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Top hash is Sour Diesel, bottom is KC 36. I'll post a pic of the jar, it has fully pressed itself at room temperature.

greenghost420 said:

That ice shatter was hand pressed?

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Yes, and just for fun and pics. I find zero difference in how it melts or dabs.

MichiganGrows said:

I think it is Sour Diesel. From a grower named NorCalSourDees

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This guy knows.

from what i know of mold (note that most of my mold knowledge comes from food-safety training though), it affects a certain radius (usually x number of inches, depending on what the mold is growing on) around the visible spores, thus making a larger area than what looks affected contaminated or 'unsafe' (foodwise, anyway). i would think that a similar principle would apply to inhaled consumption.

for instance, if a restaurant-sized block of cheese gets a mold speck on it, you need to discard a good 3-6 inches around said speck, if not the whole thing. for some stuff (mainly produce), visible spores = chuck the whole thing.

Matt is the king of concentrate!!!!

Was thinking of ways to lower temp and humidity maybe for a dry/curing box.....cause humidity around here is in the 60s range.came across cold storage dehumidifiers...... Think this would be practical? My first try at the ice wax wasn't a total failure, came out still with nice hash (ill post pics soon) ..... Everything went good up until curing/drying? The micro plane part was cool and went smooth ..... Spread everything out even, looked bomb.... Was gonna let It dry in fridge, but was too much condensation...?seemed too moist. So put in dark cupboard ....basically where I was gettin too....the final product.....45 u ended up looking the best, 73-90 u looked good too....none would melt though.....I believe the trim was too dry and not fresh enough when I froze it. Plus used 50 dollar all mesh wacky bags....and Many other things can't wait to try tga genetics, and can't wait to try this process again!!!
One thing I did that ill do again is......I made this huge ice pack that can wrap around my legs or arm/back.(after Jitsu class)...but wrapped it around my washer, and it was the shit! Ice water stayed like slurpee...... Water and rubbing alcohol make good icepacks.

mellokitty said:

from what i know of mold (note that most of my mold knowledge comes from food-safety training though), it affects a certain radius (usually x number of inches, depending on what the mold is growing on) around the visible spores, thus making a larger area than what looks affected contaminated or 'unsafe' (foodwise, anyway). i would think that a similar principle would apply to inhaled consumption.

for instance, if a restaurant-sized block of cheese gets a mold speck on it, you need to discard a good 3-6 inches around said speck, if not the whole thing. for some stuff (mainly produce), visible spores = chuck the whole thing.

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Read somewhere ...... use a 0.2 filter syringe .....and that will catch all the dead and living mold......anyone else here heard of this?

Mr. Rize thanks so much for posting all of this incredible information. Your love for what you do shows by how you present yourself. Many thanks.

To Matt or anybody else who might know;

This was my first run using Matt's excellent instructions. Everything turned out well except I expected a bit more in the yield department.

First I noticed that it was easy to spray the actual hash through the screens. I felt like I was losing lots of hash by spraying the it towards the middle. Every time I would try and spray it towards the middle I was spraying it through the screen itself. This was especially noticeable for the 90 and 73 screens.

I know the bags are quality because I got the x-tractor bags Matt recommended.

Second question being is yield related to ratio of ice to water? I mean I am wondering if you get more yield with more ice due to decreased water temperature. I ask because I bought 120lbs of ice and was running out towards the end (lots of trim) so I just scimped on ice instead of running out and buying more. Was this a bad idea? Wondering if tons of ice is absolutely necessary on every run.

Thanks a lot guys.