I am guilty of sexual assault a dozen times over

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Lucky Luke

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I once asked a girl if i could take her glasses off, she said no and then got upset that i took her no as a no. So I asked again and she didn't reply so i just said no reply must mean a yes...that seemed to work for for everything she had on. Women are strange creatures.
 

DaFreak

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You are at a party and some dude pushed up on you and started making out with you, how would you react?
Again, this was not a random guy coming out of nowhere and kissing her. They were at a wedding party and enjoying each other’s company.

but if some dude I was hanging out with tried kissing me, or even snuck a kiss in, I wouldn’t call it assault, I’d call it a misunderstanding. And it has happened so I’m speaking from experience.
 

DaFreak

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Turned out my best friend in high school had a crush on me. Lol, and he told me after we’d gone to a bath house, think giant common bath with lots of naked dudes. By this lady’s definition he assaulted me, lol. No I’m joking, very nice guy.
 

hanimmal

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Again, this was not a random guy coming out of nowhere and kissing her. They were at a wedding party and enjoying each other’s company.

but if some dude I was hanging out with tried kissing me, or even snuck a kiss in, I wouldn’t call it assault, I’d call it a misunderstanding. And it has happened so I’m speaking from experience.
What about not sneaking in a kiss, but stuffing his tongue down your throat rubbing up on you? And not someone that you had known well for a long time, but say someone who you were relying on for a big real estate deal when you were just starting out in your career.

You might not want to bend to the reality of what it is to get aggressive with someone because of the language used, but it doesn't change the reality that someone who experienced this might feel that way.

I think though that you are being a disingenuous troll with this and not trying to actually understand, because why else would you (have even seen this, much less) be snow flaking about what someone who is the right's favorite boogey-woman's aid said years after she ran for office said?
 

DaFreak

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Lol, you really need to be the little social justice warrior and throw all common language out with the bath water don’t you. I have had men and women grab my ass/cock and have had people I don’t want try to kiss me. I have never once thought it was assault. Now if at any time that lady was forced, cornered or threatened then that’s a different story.
 

hanimmal

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Lol, you really need to be the little social justice warrior and throw all common language out with the bath water don’t you. I have had men and women grab my ass/cock and have had people I don’t want try to kiss me. I have never once thought it was assault. Now if at any time that lady was forced, cornered or threatened then that’s a different story.
Same here, it doesn't mean that everyone in the same situation would feel the same or have had the same life experiences.

And she obviously felt uncomfortable in the situation right? Can you at least understand that in your machismo haze? She didn't ask for it, and really at the end of the day that is what it comes down to.
 

DaFreak

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Same here, it doesn't mean that everyone in the same situation would feel the same or have had the same life experiences.

And she obviously felt uncomfortable in the situation right? Can you at least understand that in your machismo haze? She didn't ask for it, and really at the end of the day that is what it comes down to.
She did, the question is, is it sexual assault? Cause that’s a legal term, arrests etc.
 

Puff_Dragon

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*Sigh*
Women tend to treat me like some kind of cheap, sex toy ..just because I have a 12 inch tongue and can breath through my ears
 

Sidram420

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She did, the question is, is it sexual assault? Cause that’s a legal term, arrests etc.
I would never disparage a woman from coming forward about any type of sexual assault or weird sexual situation that she was involved with that was not wanted. but sometimes I think things get taken a little overboard and the situation becomes something that it was never actually meant to become for instance that lady saying she was sexually assaulted by a man who attempted to kiss her for all we know he simply leaned in and didn’t really do anything and because of the world we live in today that lady can come forward spin that scenario in her favor be awarded a bunch of money and completely ruin that person‘s life and career I just think it’s crazy how the word assault and rape are so easily used not that I am downplaying rape or sexual assault at all those two things are very serious things I just think the words anymore are used very loosely to describe basic unwanted interactions that get deflected and are no more than that
 

Sidram420

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A misunderstood attempt at a kiss and then backing off when it's clear the situation was misread is not the same thing as sexual assault.
Agreed that’s what I’m saying it’s nuts how in the world we live in today people are so quick to label those things as a type of sexual assault
 

YardG

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Wow there's a lot of "Ick" in this thread.

OP hasn't given us much information about Abedin's allegations. A quick search pulled up a story about her memoir and a brief quote about the incident... sounds like she was in her 20s (senators have to be at least 30, but obviously could be much older), he invited her in for a coffee, "“Then, in an instant, it all changed. He plopped down to my right, put his left arm around my shoulder, and kissed me, pushing his tongue into my mouth, pressing me back on the sofa[.]” She then says something about wishing in the moment that she could erase that 10 seconds from her memory.

I suspect she's being a bit euphemistic and she's leaving something out. Be honest, you're sticking your tongue down a woman's throat for 10 seconds and you're not touching her breasts or ass? The minute an intimate part of the body is involved that starts sounding like indecent assault at the very least.

Unless this scenario sounds like you on a Saturday Night ("[he/she] seems interested, time to jump on [him/her] and shove my tongue into [his/her] mouth") you're probably in the clear. If you're something other than a hormone-riddled teenager maybe save the freedom kisses for lip contact two or three.

As for Abedin, it's a story she's telling about her life. Something that happened a long time ago. There's no threat of legal action involved. The "Social Injustice Warriors" can calm the fuck down.
 
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