Gun control is coming

Budley Doright

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It sucks but I totally feel the same way even saying it, but it is all in the reports/news it just keeps getting drowned out by POTUS tweets about multicultural freshmen congresswomen or any of the other red meat Trump tosses out to distract us.
Can you point to any reliable sources that would lead me to believe what you say is true re foreign governments targeting and marketing weapons to unstable US citizens?
 

Unclebaldrick

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So it turns out that a lot of these shooters have made large end-of-life credit card purchases of assault weapons, extended magazines and body armor knowing they wouldn't and couldn't pay the credit card companies back.

Better to burn out than to fade away?
 

hanimmal

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I do not have anything that directly does this. The El Paso shooting was just recent and I saw the news about it a couple days ago about the bullets coming from Russia. The rest of the targeting of our citizens I think is mostly covered in the links in my sig, add in the sextortion that is just now being reported and it all fits together. I can be wrong, it is close to being a conspiracy theory. But there is enough real information out there that its important to understand what is going on with online targeting of our citizens.

The first time I saw the gun info was on that AP News source that I keep listing:
https://www.apnews.com/f519fb0254de409d93a751e4fa1f8e0b

The Russians targeting kids in games like Pokeman: this is the link in my sig takes you right to the pdf.
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Same report you can see how they target people with online sales, this gives them data/cc information/sexual preferences info

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Here is the FBI handout to explain the danger to kids from online cat fishing in the form of sextortion.
https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/stop-sextortion-youth-face-risk-online-090319
What Kids and Teens Need to Know About Sextortion

What is sextortion?

Sextortion describes a crime that happens online when an adult convinces a person who is younger than 18 to share sexual pictures or perform sexual acts on a webcam.

How does it start?

Sextortion can start on any site where people meet and communicate. Someone may contact you while you are playing a game online or reach out over a dating app or one of your social media accounts.

In some cases, the first contact from the criminal will be a threat. The person may claim they already have a picture or video of you that they will share if you don’t send more pictures. More often, however, this crime starts when young people believe they are communicating with someone their own age who is interested in a relationship or someone who is offering something of value. The adult can use threats, gifts, money, flattery, lies, or other methods to get a young person to produce these images.

After the criminal has one or more videos or pictures, they use the threat of sharing or publishing that content to get the victim to produce more images.

The adult has committed a crime as soon as they ask a young person for a single graphic image.

Why do young people agree to do this?

The people who commit this crime have studied how to reach and target children and teens.

One person the FBI put in prison for this crime was a man in his 40s who worked as a youth minister so he could learn how teens talked to each other. Then, he created social media profiles where he pretended to be a teenage girl. This “girl” would start talking to boys online and encourage them to make videos.

Another person offered money and new smartphones to his victims.

In one case, the criminal threatened a girl—saying he would hurt her and bomb her school—if she didn’t send pictures.

Other cases start with the offer of currency or credits in a video game in exchange for a quick picture.
 

gonnagro

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"The El Paso shooting was just recent and I saw the news about it a couple days ago about the bullets coming from Russia."

All this means is he most likely bought the ammo at a gun show or mail ordered it. Lot of that type ammo for sale, some of it is made with corrosive powder and very bad for your weapon.
 

UncleBuck

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"The El Paso shooting was just recent and I saw the news about it a couple days ago about the bullets coming from Russia."

All this means is he most likely bought the ammo at a gun show or mail ordered it. Lot of that type mmo for sale. Some of it is made with corrosive powder and very bad for your weapon.
do you think he was worried about the long term care of his ar 15 (assault rifle 15)?
 

Fogdog

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"The El Paso shooting was just recent and I saw the news about it a couple days ago about the bullets coming from Russia."

All this means is he most likely bought the ammo at a gun show or mail ordered it. Lot of that type ammo for sale, some of it is made with corrosive powder and very bad for your weapon.
Yet one more example of gun death nation begging non gun owners to fix the problem.
 

Justin-case

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Ya that’s gonna make people take you seriously FFS. If reasonable people keep the fight on a level that makes sense shit may get done. That’s the big issue you’ve got down there. Two extreme sides fighting a battle that never gets solved.
Do you really expect a generation terrorized by mass shootings to give a fuck about people's gun rights? I would argue that you're the one not taking gun death seriously. They are a menace to society, wildlife, and the environment. I would also agrues that anyone who disagrees with that statement doesn't possess the mental capacity to be trusted with a gun in the first place.

I used to support the average sportsman's gun rights, but now feel that they could do something more productive with their time than waste natural resources driving around our national Forest leaving a trail of shells, butts, and beer cans. It's immature, unnecessary, and gross. Maybe they can learn to hunt for a good deal in the grocery store/gas station, or set their cross hairs on cleaning up the yard come fall?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Do you really expect a generation terrorized by mass shootings to give a fuck about people's gun rights? I would argue that you're the one not taking gun death seriously. They are a menace to society, wildlife, and the environment. I would also agrues that anyone who disagrees with that statement doesn't possess the mental capacity to be trusted with a gun in the first place.

I used to support the average sportsman's gun rights, but now feel that they could do something more productive with their time than waste natural resources driving around our national Forest leaving a trail of shells, butts, and beer cans. It's immature, unnecessary, and gross. Maybe they can learn to hunt for a good deal in the grocery store/gas station, or set their cross hairs on cleaning up the yard come fall?
In the states the NRA and GOP have sown the wind and are gonna reap the whirlwind, gun regulation is coming and many will howl and dance over it. I know I did my share of howling and dancing over the new drone regulations in Canada:(

Yer right about the conduct of many, "hunters" though, they do make a mess in the woods sometimes. How a wild animal usual dies in the wild is a lot worse than getting hunted, they suffer much more, many are eaten alive... If they eat the game I have no problem, killing unnecessarily for sport and pleasure is questionable at best. Most folks eat meat...
 
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TacoMac

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I used to support the average sportsman's gun rights, but now feel that they could do something more productive with their time than waste natural resources driving around our national Forest leaving a trail of shells, butts, and beer cans. It's immature, unnecessary, and gross.
Completely inaccurate.

I'm not a hunter. Never have been. I do know quite a few of them though. To stereotype them is to make you just as bad as those who stereotype others.

Here in Georgia, the state uses hunters to control the population of animals. For example, just a few years ago the deer population go so out of hand that they not only lengthened the hunting season and increased the quota's of deer hunters could kill and dress, but they actually started putting bounties on them.

They've done similar things with fish, foxes, all kinds of things. Sometimes things get too conservative and populations get out of control.

Enter the hunter/fisherman/trapper. They get things back to where it should be and get to fill their freezers up doing it.

To call that immature, unnecessary and gross is more than a bit ignorant on your part.
 

hanimmal

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"The El Paso shooting was just recent and I saw the news about it a couple days ago about the bullets coming from Russia."

All this means is he most likely bought the ammo at a gun show or mail ordered it. Lot of that type ammo for sale, some of it is made with corrosive powder and very bad for your weapon.
Yeah I think @Budley Doright was right on the money with banning internet/mail order sales on these things. It wouldn't be that hard for a Russian troll to direct a little psycho in the making to a no fuss online gun seller who knows that kid will get exactly what he needs.


Do you really expect a generation terrorized by mass shootings to give a fuck about people's gun rights? I would argue that you're the one not taking gun death seriously. They are a menace to society, wildlife, and the environment. I would also agrues that anyone who disagrees with that statement doesn't possess the mental capacity to be trusted with a gun in the first place.

I used to support the average sportsman's gun rights, but now feel that they could do something more productive with their time than waste natural resources driving around our national Forest leaving a trail of shells, butts, and beer cans. It's immature, unnecessary, and gross. Maybe they can learn to hunt for a good deal in the grocery store/gas station, or set their cross hairs on cleaning up the yard come fall?
Most people hunt were they live. Shotguns are not going anywhere in America. Ever, for real it is not going to happen. Anything else being said is just used to piss off and end conversations with people that care about their guns.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Yeah I think @Budley Doright was right on the money with banning internet/mail order sales on these things. It wouldn't be that hard for a Russian troll to direct a little psycho in the making to a no fuss online gun seller who knows that kid will get exactly what he needs.




Most people hunt were they live. Shotguns are not going anywhere in America. Ever, for real it is not going to happen. Anything else being said is just used to piss off and end conversations with people that care about their guns.
I ain't exactly pro gun either and in my family a 12 gauge was a good all round weapon for hunting, we used to eat game. Social and lifestyle changes are slowly changing that, it's not the hunters in the woods ya need to worry about, but the ones on the streets. Anything that reduces gun violence and tragedy is worthy of consideration, so are the rights of the innocent, not just victims but of hobbyist and others too, a balance will be struck.

For many in America this issue is not about hunting, but of white dominance, guns are part of the identity and provide social cohesion for those concerned about the rise of other peoples in American society, racists.

Every tribe has it's symbols.
 
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Fogdog

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Completely inaccurate.

I'm not a hunter. Never have been. I do know quite a few of them though. To stereotype them is to make you just as bad as those who stereotype others.

Here in Georgia, the state uses hunters to control the population of animals. For example, just a few years ago the deer population go so out of hand that they not only lengthened the hunting season and increased the quota's of deer hunters could kill and dress, but they actually started putting bounties on them.

They've done similar things with fish, foxes, all kinds of things. Sometimes things get too conservative and populations get out of control.

Enter the hunter/fisherman/trapper. They get things back to where it should be and get to fill their freezers up doing it.

To call that immature, unnecessary and gross is more than a bit ignorant on your part.
Hunters are a poor choice over a healthy ecosystem.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I thought this was a gardening sight,we should keep political things aside and help each other grow beautiful flowers...we all know right from wrong ...one love
Post some pics of yer grow (in right thread), we're curious, help us grow some flowers by showing us what ya got? Show and tell.

You haven't been around long and those who post to politics right off the bat are suspected as trolls and sock puppets.

PS About 40% of US population don't know right from wrong.
 
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TacoMac

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I thought this was a gardening sight,we should keep political things aside and help each other grow beautiful flowers...we all know right from wrong ...one love
Member Since: Wednesday.

Comes straight to the political session to post.

Welcome new sock puppet...for what must be the 27th time.
 

Longsmoker

Member
Leave the deer, aim for the red hats.[/QUOTE
Post some pics of yer grow (in right thread), we're curious, help us grow some flowers by showing us what ya got? Show and tell.

You haven't been around long and those who post to politics right off the bat are suspected as trolls and sock puppets.

PS About 40% of US population don't know right from wrong.
I get it..I bumped into the political forum accidently...perty kush
 

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