Getcrunk
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im growing in a swamp again this year. i picked up 30 gallon camo grow bags off ebay for the operation. that water is highly acidic, best to keep above it
Growing OUTDOORS SWAMP LAND NEED HELP ON ANY TIPS...
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hockeyallstar190
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so no matter what i am going to have to water them? mind you i am using promix and personally taking care of them intill they go into the ground which will be about 2 months total growth before being put near a swamp... and by swamp i do no mean in 3 ft of water i would just say it is marshy and damp..... if i do have to go out and water then what do u think would be the least i would have to do to produce a decent yield? and if i cant do that just let me know how to properly water them>???? ive herd 5 gallons a week per plant not sure though? thanks alot...
CrackerJax
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Well, since you re growing in a swamp... i would think H2O will not have to be carried in....
Google "tree ring" .... they work well. As an alternative.
Google "tree ring" .... they work well. As an alternative.
hockeyallstar190
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Well, since you re growing in a swamp... i would think H2O will not have to be carried in....
Google "tree ring" .... they work well. As an alternative.
so your saying by installing these on top of every plant would make me not have to water them as much as you would say like 1 time every 2-3 weeks? it says it repels grass and weeds and letting air and water hit the roots? and lake water is effceient enough to water the plants with?
hockeyallstar190
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also was going to think about putting perlite in the soil along with fish at the bottom of the two foot by two foot hole... hopefully ensuring good yield what do you think? and fish emulsion
CrackerJax
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yepper.... that's exactly why they are used. In big landscape jobs...when they install trees...they use "rings" It helps them survive the transplant stage. It will work on weed as well.
hockeyallstar190
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alright then so i will invest into that.... curious to see if anyone has thoughts on nutrients i should use... i was reading up about how if not flusehd prperly before harvest you can aquire a chemical taste from it. i wasgoing to go for a more organic fert maybe you could point me in the right direction... like i said i am not the greenest of the growers but i am sure trying to be lol and advice on how to make my operation work better im all ears...... or should i say EYES lol
hockeyallstar190
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i am planting in ark rich soil using fish emersion mix in my soil, planting them on the outskirts of the swamps... the swamps consist of clean water and cat tails should be grown up enough to hide the plants.was curious to see what you guys thought about how safe it would be to plant 4-5 plants on one ridge line about 1-200 yards away from each other too?... i dont have any exotic animals insects or anything that might give problems to people growing in the southern parts of the USA. just the regular mites deer squirrels racoons rabbits and so on..... i plan on using only a ho-made insecticide and letting those fuckers grow. going out there to top them maybe so they dont grow so tall? any idea on when i should top them? they will have been growing for 2 months when i put them into there spots in the woods area
CrackerJax
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I really can't tell you how safe it is without walking it myself....you will have to follow ur gut and instincts.
shoemaker
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i live in south louisiana, i know swamps. pick a sunny spot, dig out the marsh wet stuff and pile it about 3 feet high or as high as he water will ever get there. flatten the top of that pile, add your mix or bucket to the top of the pile. this keeps it dry, and gives you a watering hole for it. always use organics, no fish emulsion, they will dig up your plant looking for the dead fish!!! don't ask me how i know this!!!!
i also, surround my plants with chicken wire, the tomato plant thingys work great when u cover them with chicken wire.
hope this helps!!
btw, mine are already in the ground here, 3 feet tall, they will get 10 - 15 feet tall here, 1 to 3 lbs each.
i also, surround my plants with chicken wire, the tomato plant thingys work great when u cover them with chicken wire.
hope this helps!!
btw, mine are already in the ground here, 3 feet tall, they will get 10 - 15 feet tall here, 1 to 3 lbs each.
one11
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i've learned the hard way, that planting above ground (pots, growbags) you will need to water them much more often. even burying them partially will help keep their roots cool and moist in the summer daze.
edit.: oh and shoemaker, how much direct sunlight do you reckon ur plants get a day?
edit.: oh and shoemaker, how much direct sunlight do you reckon ur plants get a day?
CrackerJax
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Here's a trick to help you with containers.... but you'll need to double up.
Take a 3 gallon pot for ur plant... get a 5 gallon pot and put some pea pebbles in the bottom...enough to bring the 3 gallon almost up to the top lip of the 5. K?
then put the 3 inside and fill all around between the two pots with more pea pebbles. You now have an insulated pot from the heat and ur water will be available far longer for the plant. You will also get more of a root system as they won't turn away from the heat. It also makes a great counterweight for windy days and storms.
Take a 3 gallon pot for ur plant... get a 5 gallon pot and put some pea pebbles in the bottom...enough to bring the 3 gallon almost up to the top lip of the 5. K?
then put the 3 inside and fill all around between the two pots with more pea pebbles. You now have an insulated pot from the heat and ur water will be available far longer for the plant. You will also get more of a root system as they won't turn away from the heat. It also makes a great counterweight for windy days and storms.
hockeyallstar190
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Here's a trick to help you with containers.... but you'll need to double up.
Take a 3 gallon pot for ur plant... get a 5 gallon pot and put some pea pebbles in the bottom...enough to bring the 3 gallon almost up to the top lip of the 5. K?
then put the 3 inside and fill all around between the two pots with more pea pebbles. You now have an insulated pot from the heat and ur water will be available far longer for the plant. You will also get more of a root system as they won't turn away from the heat. It also makes a great counterweight for windy days and storms.
well i dont think i am going to be able to do pots.... im going to be putting them around a swamp/marshy area that grows very green and tall..... they are going in a 2x2 hole filled with good top soil. I think i am going to have to have them in the hole rather on top of a 3ft mound in fear of them getting that tall lol shoemaker 10-15 ft lol.... Mr.Shoemaker what would you suggest on organics to use if i might ask I am from Michigan. And I have herd from a few people around here it is suppose to be a dry hot summer. so how much i need to water is something i dont think i know all that much about at this point in my growing experience or at least should I say proper watering. I hear it is an art. I would greatly appreciate it if someone pointed me in the right direction? thanks. I do not want to ask alot of questions cause it probably bugs you guys answering these all day, so thats all im going to ask for now I really do thank you all alot.
CrackerJax
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It's a tough question... the environmental conditions and size of the plants and drainage of the soil all affect water retention/loss.
The best thing you can do is to learn the signs of underwatering which for the most part is leaf droop.
You will just have to develop a feel for it..there are no hard and fast rules to it. You can, once onsite...stick ur finger down about an inch or deeper. If you feel moisture...it's fine.. that's a very general rule though.
The best thing you can do is to learn the signs of underwatering which for the most part is leaf droop.
You will just have to develop a feel for it..there are no hard and fast rules to it. You can, once onsite...stick ur finger down about an inch or deeper. If you feel moisture...it's fine.. that's a very general rule though.
hockeyallstar190
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thank yo so much for giving me little tid bits of advice i appreciate it a lot. i have one plant right now that just started to smell like ganja if u smelled the top, could you tell me what that means? also i do think it is a female i looked right where the leaf branch connects to the stalk and there is a little pistil or hair on each side. not sure if im right but just cuiours the other are a few days behind that one i started early... i hope to get picks up to you guys soon......then you can tell me what you guys think.... thanks for the info on everytging else is helps alot....
CrackerJax
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The smell means it is getting out of seedling phase and getting into serious vegging....ur little baby is growing up...pretty soon you will teach it how to drive...
Hair is a female... ur right there.
Hair is a female... ur right there.
hockeyallstar190
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The smell means it is getting out of seedling phase and getting into serious vegging....ur little baby is growing up...pretty soon you will teach it how to drive...
Hair is a female... ur right there.
ok so if there was a little pollen sack starting to grow there then it would be a male? correct? and how long does the vegging stage take? maybe you might have a pic that looks like it when its going to be going into the next stage which would be flowering? then budding but i am taking quite a stab at it there.. lol... and one irrelevant question. How come people dont get into troulbe with all this kind of postings on these forums. not just rollitup, but all of them in general. There is alot out there I have been looking at post from many websites.... I am just curious on how big the rick factor is to pics pics and such like that you know,..... Get at me thanks
CrackerJax
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yes...little balls for little men. If it's a male it won't be flowering...
Vegging outside typically lasts 2-3 months...latitude and sun and temps all affect the plants cycle.... typically veg is the front side of June 21st, and flowering is on the back of it.
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as for forums and LEO... well for one thing...this is all talk. Pics can come from anywhere really...who's to say urs...are urs...only you know that.
Now..if you are dumb enough to post pictures which include ur house or post personal info that can be cross checked...you deserve a darwin award.
LEO has neither the will nor manpower to run down forum posts...you have to make urself a target first.
Vegging outside typically lasts 2-3 months...latitude and sun and temps all affect the plants cycle.... typically veg is the front side of June 21st, and flowering is on the back of it.
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as for forums and LEO... well for one thing...this is all talk. Pics can come from anywhere really...who's to say urs...are urs...only you know that.
Now..if you are dumb enough to post pictures which include ur house or post personal info that can be cross checked...you deserve a darwin award.
LEO has neither the will nor manpower to run down forum posts...you have to make urself a target first.
hockeyallstar190
Member
Ya I figured that. I was just asking out of curious your know always wondered I guess. Would you Mind if I asked you another questions or two? If you dont mind. I am really green in the sense of giving my plants any types of nutes or ferts. I am only going to have them till June 1st then they will go into there homes. So I was curious if it would be worth doing the whole time before i planted them....? They are bagseed as well. I do have one that i will be able to care of alot better that is a seed out of some local cronic as well. maybe i need to get nutes for that too. I really dont know the first thing about that stuff though. Once again thanks for the info man greatly appreciated.
LuckyLou
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When in swamp land forget about digging holes. Wade further out into the swamp. Go to where there is always water. Take with you material to build a barge structure large enough to hold containers for your garden. Use the "wick" system where you dangle cotton line down into the water that will wick the water back up into your plant containers. You will need to visit your crops only once or twice per season to add nutrients. This works great when there are cattails etc. to hide your crop. Better still, use a small motor boat and tow a larger sized barges capable of holding multiple containers hidden in the bullrushes. The swampier the better...that way fishermen won't happen upon your secret.