Grow Room for one ounce per week...

GrowByDesign said:

I suppose I should have stated that I chose to run my own as a continuous grow not because I decided it is the 'best' way...it isn't as other have said, on a small scale. It's just how I wanted to do my own grow...I like the ongoing changes and the ability to experiment. there are certainly more productive ways to produce an "oz/wk". Just thought I'd clarify that...he didn't ask if it was easy

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Thats a good point.
I do things the way I do because it
fits my schedule and some chores I dont enjoy some people do enjoy.

me personally i would do a 5x10x7 or 5x12x7 do 1000w vert for flower.. and a 1000w horizontal for veg.. seperate 5x5 for flower.. and 5x5 or 5x7 for veg.. the extra few feet for a t5 or floros for cloning or starting seeds on the side so u can fill the flower room..
with that setup.. atleast pulling a pound every 3 months.. at the very least.. that meaning he has extra 4 ozs per month.. to use for watever.. edibles . hash.. or when tolerance goes up ur good to go ..

then once he gets it dialed in.. he could potentially get up to 3 pounds in a vert setup.. and that could allow them to grow 1 time every 9 months. or to keep friends and family happy also..

if thats too big.. do a 600 for flower.. in a 4x4.. and a 600 in a 4x6 and keep it going.. they could always expand into 2 5x5s if they wanted.. and build another veg room .. but if you need any advice let me know ASAP ill help u out if needed.

JointOperation said:

me personally i would do a 5x10x7 or 5x12x7 do 1000w vert for flower.. and a 1000w horizontal for veg.. seperate 5x5 for flower.. and 5x5 or 5x7 for veg.. the extra few feet for a t5 or floros for cloning or starting seeds on the side so u can fill the flower room..
with that setup.. atleast pulling a pound every 3 months.. at the very least.. that meaning he has extra 4 ozs per month.. to use for watever.. edibles . hash.. or when tolerance goes up ur good to go ..

then once he gets it dialed in.. he could potentially get up to 3 pounds in a vert setup.. and that could allow them to grow 1 time every 9 months. or to keep friends and family happy also..

if thats too big.. do a 600 for flower.. in a 4x4.. and a 600 in a 4x6 and keep it going.. they could always expand into 2 5x5s if they wanted.. and build another veg room .. but if you need any advice let me know ASAP ill help u out if needed.

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Nope. I'm lost. Fuckin' drunk agin. Bout time I started smokin weed...

charface said:

Thats a good point.
I do things the way I do because it
fits my schedule and some chores I dont enjoy some people do enjoy.

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This is my issue...
I started with just a couple of indoor plants...
Found one that tastes good, easy to clone and finishes in 49-53 days...
And the Hi is perfect...
I just grow a bunch of little plants... per week....

I know... It's not the best way to grow...
However, it occupies my mind....

That doesn't always take much....

Sand4x105 said:

This is my issue...
I started with just a couple of indoor plants...
Found one that tastes good, easy to clone and finishes in 49-53 days...
And the Hi is perfect...
I just grow a bunch of little plants... per week....

I know... It's not the best way to grow...
However, it occupies my mind....

That doesn't always take much....

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Yeah thats perfect.
far more enjoyable when it becomes
a lifestyle instead a task list.

if my room and I are on different schedules it sucks the joy out of it

I'm going to be posting this info to my journal but it seems relevant here...

Disclaimer: I've been growing for a year...which means I know fuck-all about growing and JUST enough to be dangerous to anyone I give advice to so...no comment on 'how' to grow your plants.

Now, I got my first 2 plants in March 2013 and it took me a LONG time to get set up. I didn't get my first run of plants started flowering till August. If one has "the right gear" to start with I'm sure you won't have to suffer the trials & tribulations I have...and I am STILL not 'there' yet...

"an ounce per week"...how do I count the ways...

My goals are pretty simple. 2oz per plant from my Sativas and 1oz per plant from my Indicas. 2 harvests of 2 plants each, per month. I've refined my schedule for a focus on the sativas with runs of indicas scheduled in around them...everything is now done in pairs based on an 8 week flowering schedule. This works out to 6-8 plants in bud at any given time...assuming I've done everything right

On the veg side, clones are rooted in sets of 8 [one cycle] and kept in a low-light state until I am ready to 'super-veg' them, which is done in pairs of course. I'll select 2 same-size/strain plants and put them under the T5, rotating as plants harvest. This is where I've still got schedule problems...keeping the bud/veg plants rotating at the same time...[but I had shit for veg light until recently]

I love the numbers...it's one of the reason I'm doing it the way I am. Sorry if this seems a bit 'odd' to track all this info

My first run of 8 was the prototype, setting a baseline. I had my goal set, but how close would I get, I had no idea. MANY extenuating circumstances came in to play during that first run...and the second, which really took a hit due to transition during upgrading...my third run is almost like starting over but promises to be the best yet...we'll see.

Anyways...here's the yield data from my first 2 runs...8 and 7 plants respectively. Spanning the last 17 weeks [Nov-March] just over 20oz was harvested...nothing spectacular. I certainly wasn't harvesting on a regular schedule and achieving my yield estimates has been sketchy at best, but....20oz divided by 17 weeks = 1.1oz per week...as an aside, costs average $1.17 to 1.20 per gram and will drop during the summer.



With all the upgrading I was doing I took some time to redesign my tracking program for the next run, the 2nd run is included at the top of this list as I was still tracking those plants when I redesigned it. Here are my upcoming yield estimates. All of these plants are currently either in veg or bud. the 2nd set of BB's is gone...yields were 21g each...loooooowww.



I'm due for more clones for the next run already!!

This is one of the reasons I wanted a continuous grow... I'm certainly not bragging here, I just thought I'd provide some hard data on the subjective nature of yield estimates, yields in general and how you can go about it many different ways, manipulate the math and claim an ounce per week. I can tell by the reflection in the bottom of my stash can that I am not producing an ounce per week.

sorry about the wall 'o text...it's early... 'n the coffee ya'know?

Im feeling your report methods and tracking im basicallybgonna be starting my first sog grow im excited.but nervous the.numbers im looking to acheive are roughly ounce.per plant 4 mother plants 8 clones off each what should i expeft im aiming at 2

I think your friend will quickly find that harvesting, drying, trimming, and curing one ounce of bud each and every week is a real pain in the ass. That would also mean having plants in AT LEAST 9 different stages of growth at any given time. Each wanting different levels of nutrients, wanting water at different times, wanting light at different heights, buds at all different stages of drying and curing, etc, etc, etc.

Sounds like a nightmare, if you ask me... And I've been doing this shit for years!

Why not just pull one 13 ounce harvest every 3 months? That could be done pretty easily with a single 4x4 grow space and a 600 watt switchable HPS/MH. And as a bonus, you still get to have a life!

all good points Spicy sativa...I agree

Ya, just TOO much unnessesary work, if you ask me. It would basically mean doing every single garden chore EVERY week. Cutting clones, rooting clones, mixing soil, transplanting, training/pruning, watering, staking, harvesting, drying, trimming, curing, etc, etc, etc. Each and every week of your life.

What happens if you want to take a 1-week vacation? It's easy enough to stick a little submersible pump in a bucket with a timer to water your plants while you're away, but they don't make robots to clone/transplant/harvest/trim/water/etc...

Shouldn't need more than a 600w hps for flowering if you only want an ounce a week. I achieved that and more quote happily using a 600w hps (actually achieved it on first grows using just a 400w) and a 125w cfl i the veg tent. flower "room" was a 3 foot by 1.5 foot by 6 foot cupboard.

And as above, why the insistence of it being every week? It adds copious amounts of work onto the grow requirements, and doesn't really achieve anything. why not harvest more, less. Or is he incapable of rationing himself? you could harvest 2 small plants each 4-5 weeks and happily have an ounce+ a week.

perhaps he is wanting to get the timing and work load down so he can scale it up later?

and then become the tony montana of pot?

IDK?

I tried perpetual with weekly harvests, ran ~35 during the day and rotated 35 more at night.. Did this from August till January ish...

from that I learned.. rotating plants is a pain in the ass, for many reasons..you end up needing to water everyday and different water/nutes... uneven light coverage, a pain to stagger and keep moving/adding plants, chopping and such..and then the mentioned curing and trimming pain.. and adding plants that routinely is no fun....bigger plants, bigger pots is better, and I get a better yield. even if its mainly lower nugs from extra height

nothing wrong with perpetual but spreading it to a month is what I do now.. don't forget to let the first harvest stash cure to get that in rotation...peace

SpicySativa said:

...if you ask me... And I've been doing this shit for years!

Why not just pull one 13 ounce harvest every 3 months? That could be done pretty easily with a single 4x4 grow space and a 600 watt switchable HPS/MH.

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Ricky Bobby impressions aside...with all due respect, I think you guys are taking your years of experience for granted....you make it sound so easy...but then you already know what to do and, probably more importantly, what not to do to hit that crop mark.

Ya, just TOO much unnessesary work, if you ask me. It would basically mean doing every single garden chore EVERY week. Cutting clones, rooting clones, mixing soil, transplanting, training/pruning, watering, staking, harvesting, drying, trimming, curing, etc, etc, etc. Each and every week of your life.

What happens if you want to take a 1-week vacation? It's easy enough to stick a little submersible pump in a bucket with a timer to water your plants while you're away, but they don't make robots to clone/transplant/harvest/trim/water/etc...

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I don't think anyone is disputing any of those points although I'd stipulate that, like most things, it only has to be as simple or complicated as you want to make it...I spend about 30 mins in the morning and about an hour at night, each day tending to ongoing activities, and not really because I NEED to half that time

I'm a new turd...still steaming ya'know? Worse yet, I'm the smartest kid on the short-bus in my neighborhood so I've got to learn things on my own through trial & error...Hell, I'm the New Grower Poster Child...ain't that the case with 90% of new growers?

Being new, I need to know if what I'm doing works or not...now, not 5-4 months down the road. For me a continuous grow provides me my very own classroom to teach myself in and I can see results within a much shorter time frame and frequency while at the same time reducing my potential losses if things don't come out right...

With all of the shit I've done wrong up to this point...all the under-achievements in yields due to my lack of experience, to put that all into one big all-or-[possibly] nothing harvest...wait 4-5 months to see the results before I can do it again...all the while hoping I get enough yield to carry me through the next attempt after having spent a bunch of money on gear I probably wouldn't have known how to use properly...well, I've got the time so I'll trade it for the knowledge I need to get to be able to reliably do it as you suggest. 6 of 1, 1/2 a dozen of the other I say...

I guess my biggest point is to start simple. Yes, perpetual can work quite well. It can even be streamlined to the point that it is just a little work each day. BUT, it is going to be a lot to handle as a new grower (not trying to make an assumption on that one). I would highly recommend starting with a "batch" style grow while you learn to read your plants. Once you have a routine down in terms of providing proper conditions, nutrition, lighting, etc for all stages of the plant's life, THEN worry about going perpetual. MUCH less overwhelming this way, and you are much more likely to get the results you're looking for.

When I first started I had grand plans of harvesting every 2 weeks. In reality, the longer I do this the SIMPLER my setup becomes. These days I can easily leave town for 3-4 days without even checking on the garden if I choose.

By all means, try the perpetual if you think you can make it work.

Good luck!

SpicySativa said:

I guess my biggest point is to start simple. Yes, perpetual can work quite well. It can even be streamlined to the point that it is just a little work each day. BUT, it is going to be a lot to handle as a new grower (not trying to make an assumption on that one). I would highly recommend starting with a "batch" style grow while you learn to read your plants. Once you have a routine down in terms of providing proper conditions, nutrition, lighting, etc for all stages of the plant's life, THEN worry about going perpetual. MUCH less overwhelming this way, and you are much more likely to get the results you're looking for.

When I first started I had grand plans of harvesting every 2 weeks. In reality, the longer I do this the SIMPLER my setup becomes. These days I can easily leave town for 3-4 days without even checking on the garden if I choose.

By all means, try the perpetual if you think you can make it work.

Good luck!

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as one of those new growers I got to agree with everything here based on my little bit of experience so far with perpetual grows, especially the bold parts [read as one sentence ]

I'd still argue that, in a literal sense, whether you are growing one plant at a time or 100...if you do it again after they're done you're still rotating crops in a perpetual cycle, it's just a matter of scale.

I would get three 3 gallon smart pots with quality organic soil, get two 200W CFL's they're like $60 on Amazon, 4 foot flouros for seedlings, you can go with something cheap for side lighting like http://www.amazon.com/Bayco-SL-300-Clamp-Aluminum-Reflector/dp/B007RKKEHA/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1395609489&sr=8-6&keywords=cfl+fixture just get the correct bulbs. "earth juice" grow, catalyst, bloom for ferts and a fan to blow on the plants. Do it all in a tent, fuck building a room. You only need 3 plant's going and grow AUTO FEMINIZED....find a good strain and run that.....a lot of them are ready in 50-60 days....run 2-3 under the CFL's and 3 under the flouro's. you can never have two much lighting and they make cheap fixtures that hold 4 CFL bulbs, http://www.amazon.com/Flashpoint-Socket-Adapter-Converts-Flourescent/dp/B004L8XC34/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1395609489&sr=8-2&keywords=cfl+fixture they're for photography but fuck it.

This is what i'm planning...i've done the whole HO lighting and the plants just get too big too fast for a small grow,

budsgalore said:

.i've done the whole HO lighting and the plants just get too big too fast for a small grow,

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but...this is a great problem to have don't you think?

budsgalore said:

I would get three 3 gallon smart pots with quality organic soil, get two 200W CFL's they're like $60 on Amazon, 4 foot flouros for seedlings, you can go with something cheap for side lighting like http://www.amazon.com/Bayco-SL-300-Clamp-Aluminum-Reflector/dp/B007RKKEHA/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1395609489&sr=8-6&keywords=cfl+fixture just get the correct bulbs. "earth juice" grow, catalyst, bloom for ferts and a fan to blow on the plants. Do it all in a tent, fuck building a room. You only need 3 plant's going and grow AUTO FEMINIZED....find a good strain and run that.....a lot of them are ready in 50-60 days....run 2-3 under the CFL's and 3 under the flouro's. you can never have two much lighting and they make cheap fixtures that hold 4 CFL bulbs, http://www.amazon.com/Flashpoint-Socket-Adapter-Converts-Flourescent/dp/B004L8XC34/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1395609489&sr=8-2&keywords=cfl+fixture they're for photography but fuck it.

This is what i'm planning...i've done the whole HO lighting and the plants just get too big too fast for a small grow,

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I'm confused. First you say to go with cfl, then you say you can never have too much lighting, then you say that too much light makes them grow too big too fast.

Auto fems. Ha. That's a good one. Why not just do 12/12 from seed, get superior yields, superior cannabis, and an absurdly higher pool or absurdly better genetics to play with?

And i don't think i've mentioned this, but why build a grow room for 1 ounce a month? I might be one of a kind, but i certainly found (as did others, most others, i'm more one of the lot than one of a kind) that when you get into growing, it's generally after a period of buying weed, and you only used to be able to afford an ounce a month, so that' all you figure you need to grow, as that ounce lasted you. Get that first grow done, and try pulling out that mason jar and regulating the amount of bud that goes inot the grinder like you used to. Not going to happen. Once you have cannabis that costs next to nothing, and you can grow as much as you like, well, you start smoking as much as you like I went from 2 joints a night, to 2 joints an hour every hour. If you are growing for personal use, your intake tends to skyrocket. If he wants 1 ounce a month, design him a grow tent that will get him 4 He'll thank you.