Government Waste Could Pay For Healthcare

abandonconflict said:

Survival of the fittest is an inapt description of natural selection. The phrase was not coined by Darwin, but by right wing economist Herbert Spencer. Mutual aid is essential to natural selection. It is not inherited traits which give one an edge over others. Education is what gives one an edge. It is the vigilance of parents that insures that a person stumbles into adulthood to breed.

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abandonconflict said:

Survival of the fittest is an inapt description of natural selection. The phrase was not coined by Darwin, but by right wing economist Herbert Spencer. Mutual aid is essential to natural selection. It is not inherited traits which give one an edge over others. Education is what gives one an edge. It is the vigilance of parents that insures that a person stumbles into adulthood to breed.

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Doer said:

If you will limit this to humans only, I will say deep thinking, indeed. We are the only creatures known to educate. It is fine distinction for some but, watching the mother Lion hunt and then the cubs try to figure it out, is not educating. They are allowed to watch. Some don't get it.

The other side of educating is gathering and storing knowledge. (I am leaving out marine mammals, and perhaps elephants that store songs in memory...is that knowledge of any kind, or just, here I am!!!. Like Bird Song?)

So, edge is vast and it shows.

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Doer said:

If you will limit this to humans only, I will say deep thinking, indeed. We are the only creatures known to educate. It is fine distinction for some but, watching the mother Lion hunt and then the cubs try to figure it out, is not educating. They are allowed to watch. Some don't get it.

The other side of educating is gathering and storing knowledge. (I am leaving out marine mammals, and perhaps elephants that store songs in memory...is that knowledge of any kind, or just, here I am!!!. Like Bird Song?)

So, edge is vast and it shows.

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canndo said:

Note I said nothing about "survival of the fittest", which as you say is a poor explaination of the process of evolutionary change. Any examination of that process actually shows something more, as you say again, mutual. A bird has no need for better eyes if that bug he eats doesn't develop better camoflage nor does the bug need anything better if the bird's eyes don't get better.

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canndo said:

And there is no cooperation between business entities for their mutual benifit?

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abandonconflict said:

Not really, no. Sure some collaboration between parties with temporarily aligned interests, but other than that, it's all competition, creating more losers than winners.

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abandonconflict said:

Education is but a form of mutual aid.

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