Gay wedding cakes and the bigots who won't bake them.

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UncleBuck

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"They have to accept our life choices but we don't have to accept theirs!"

That's some extremely libturded shit spewing from a guy with a picture of blowbama burning the constitution as his avatar...
he's trolling you, but i'll take his bait on this one.

can you name a few "libturds" who are saying that being gay is a lifestyle choice?

bignbushy's vews fall more in line with yours than with any "libturd", by far.
 

schuylaar

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I dont understand what is considered gay
cake.
Like if I eat it off some dudes buttocks?
Just dont tell them what you're planning.
a gay wedding cake usually consists of a plastic groom-groom at the top otherwise, it's the same cake..put a bride-groom on top..voila` it's now hetero..way too much for the moral majority to handle.
 

BigNBushy

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completely untrue!
What's untrue? The language is clear in the Bible, it does speak against the act of two dudes laying down together as they would with a woman. But it speaks against many things people do who don't have people wanting to not serve them over it.
 

MuyLocoNC

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i have been right far more often than i have been wrong. mydogcody admitted he was a sock puppet, hedwrappedturtle got banned, neckhole was gone within hours...and you simply refuse to admit who you are because you are a menstruating vagina.

Mmm, actually you were wrong in every case. By definition, it can only be a sock puppet if the individual's original username is still active and usable. Once that account is banned, the new username cannot be considered a "sockpuppet". Permanently banning someone means they no longer have an account. The exception being a temporary ban.

sock puppet


An account made on an internet message board, by a person who already has an account, for the purpose of posting more-or-less anonymously.
And banning an individual's username in no way restricts them from opening a new account. That may be the intent, but in this digital world it's laughable and pointless to even try. Even an IP block is a speed bump at most to someone who wants to continue posting.
 

BigNBushy

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I try not to be judgmental but the bible definitely says a lot more on the subject than what he stated.
Agreeing with it or not is a different matter.
The Bible does say several things about homosexuality, then it goes on to say that all sin is equal in the eyes of god, with one exception, denying the Holy Spirit. Homosexuality is no more of a sin than working on The Sabbath, or lying, or thinking your neighbors wife is hot.

The Bible says love your neighbor as you love yourself, and again, the most powerful words spoken by Christ, that the first of us without sin can refuse to bake the first gay wedding cake.

If you don't want to serve black people or homosexuals I'm fine with that, but don't pervert Christianity as some sort of support for your own bigotry. Just nut up and say "I hate fags."
 

Rob Roy

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If a person can be made to serve another they would prefer not to, does that equate to involuntary servitude? What do the word smiths say about this? Hmmm.
 

Rob Roy

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If a person is dumb enough to want to ask the state for permission to be married, they might want to force people to bake them a cake too. All hail the state, the giver of all and the super daddy whose boots must be polished with irony and slave spittle.
 

greentrip

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What's untrue? The language is clear in the Bible, it does speak against the act of two dudes laying down together as they would with a woman. But it speaks against many things people do who don't have people wanting to not serve them over it.
One of many examples-
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense."
 

Beefbisquit

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One of many examples-
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense."
Leviticus 19:19

"'Keep my decrees. "'Do not mate different kinds of animals. "'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.

RUH-OH! hope you're not wearing a cotton-blend shirt, or a blend of man-made fibres else you should also be put to death according to the bible.
 

greentrip

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Leviticus 19:19

"'Keep my decrees. "'Do not mate different kinds of animals. "'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.

RUH-OH! hope you're not wearing a cotton-blend shirt, or a blend of man-made fibres else you should also be put to death according to the bible.
Leviticus 19:19 is clearly tied to one time and one place, unlike commands relating to (for example) love for God and neighbor, honesty, integrity, and sexual behavior.

These and other prohibitions were designed to forbid the Israelites to engage in fertility cult practices of the Canaanites. The Canaanites believed in sympathetic magic, the idea that symbolic actions can influence the gods and nature…. Mixing animal breeds, seeds, or materials was thought to “marry” them” so as magically to produce “offspring,” that is, agricultural bounty in the future.

When atheists and laugh at this verse and other culture-dependent commands, what they’re really displaying is their ignorance of their own ignorance.
 

BigNBushy

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One of many examples-
Leviticus 20:13
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense."
Cool, Leviticus, the law book of the bible. That does sound pretty harsh, doesn't it?

Keep reading through Leviticus and see what else demands a death sentence.

Notice that in the OP I said "Christians" and not Jews. Christ brought fourth a new covenant with the world from God. As such, the steadfast rules of the old testament are less important. You cannot read the old testament as a Christian without passing everything therein through the filter of the new testament.

The new testament and Jesus would both disapprove of harsh treatment of homosexuals.

Judge not, lest ye be judged. All sins are created equal.

The new testament informs the old testament.
 

BigNBushy

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I don't approve of mistreating homos.
You did however say the Bible, and not the New Testament.
I did say the Bible and if you are a Christian you should know your theology.

Even of the NT didn't neuter the OT your passage proves nothing. My point is that a true Christian shouldn't discriminate against someone because they are a sinner. Every Biblical scholar would agree that (with one exception) all sins are equal, and that we are all sinners. If you are a Christian and own a bakery, if a gay couple comes in and wants you to make their cake, you should accept the commission, and ask them if they know the lord. Not shun them as unworthy because you think they are living in sin, because we are all living in sin.
 

BigNBushy

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I don't approve of mistreating homos.
You did however say the Bible, and not the New Testament.
Your verse from Leviticus only says that they have committed a horrible act, not that they have damned their souls to hell and have lost the possibility of God's grace.

Jesus loves all of us, even the homosexuals. I'm so fucking sick of the nuttiest Christians out there making the rest of us look bad. Love thy neighbor!
 

greentrip

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My point is that a true Christian shouldn't discriminate against someone because they are a sinner.
I agree
Every Biblical scholar would agree that (with one exception) all sins are equal
I disagree

In one sense, all sins are equal in that they all separate us from God. The Bible’s statement, “For the wages of sin is death …” (Romans 6:23), applies to all sin, whether in thought, word, or deed. In the Old Testament, God applied different penalties to different sins, suggesting variations in the seriousness of some sins.

At the same time, it seems obvious that some sins are worse than others in both motivation and effects, and should be judged accordingly. Stealing a loaf of bread is vastly different than exterminating a million people.

When Jesus spoke of his second coming and judgment, he warned that among those deserving punishment some would “be beaten with many blows” and others “with few blows” (Luke 12:47-48). He also reserved His most fierce denunciations for the pride and unbelief of the religious leaders, not the sexually immoral (Matthew 23:13-36).

Source- Billy Graham
 

travisw

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Leviticus 19:19 is clearly tied to one time and one place, unlike commands relating to (for example) love for God and neighbor, honesty, integrity, and sexual behavior.

These and other prohibitions were designed to forbid the Israelites to engage in fertility cult practices of the Canaanites. The Canaanites believed in sympathetic magic, the idea that symbolic actions can influence the gods and nature…. Mixing animal breeds, seeds, or materials was thought to “marry” them” so as magically to produce “offspring,” that is, agricultural bounty in the future.

When atheists and laugh at this verse and other culture-dependent commands, what they’re really displaying is their ignorance of their own ignorance.
I agree

I disagree

In one sense, all sins are equal in that they all separate us from God. The Bible’s statement, “For the wages of sin is death …” (Romans 6:23), applies to all sin, whether in thought, word, or deed. In the Old Testament, God applied different penalties to different sins, suggesting variations in the seriousness of some sins.

At the same time, it seems obvious that some sins are worse than others in both motivation and effects, and should be judged accordingly. Stealing a loaf of bread is vastly different than exterminating a million people.

When Jesus spoke of his second coming and judgment, he warned that among those deserving punishment some would “be beaten with many blows” and others “with few blows” (Luke 12:47-48). He also reserved His most fierce denunciations for the pride and unbelief of the religious leaders, not the sexually immoral (Matthew 23:13-36).
If you are going to copy and paste at least give credit.

http://www.thinkingchristian.net/posts/2013/01/why-wearing-clothes-of-mixed-fabrics-lev-1919-was-wrong/

http://billygraham.org/answer/are-all-sins-the-same-in-gods-eyes/
 

greentrip

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The real question is not about Christians freedom of religion
but about Muslims. Last I checked there was about 8 or 9 Muslim
nations that still use the death penalty for homosexuality.
 
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