Gas Lantern Routine

SouthCross

SouthCross

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tstick said:
Well, maybe it was just a dud phenotype I had then...
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We'll see. Girl Scout is in the same cabinet. Wednesday marks the 10 week in flower. She's on a 9.5 hour day. No nitrogen and turning the fall colors fast. Every fan leaf has the pretty bronze veins with an overall golden look. Lower trim leaves are brilliant green.

Trics are still bright white/milky. No clear. No Amber yet, either.
 
Dr. Who

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SouthCross said:
Not flower. Veg.

13-13.5 hrs for veg. Verses the 5.5-1-5.5. Why is the 13th hour used in the middle and not at the end of the schedule?
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I've seen plenty of pure Indica's and indie X Indie crosses bloom at 14 hrs!

With that said. As guy who used to run greenhouses. It's just been found for those conditions and plants being run......you don't get "ooppsies" and have to start selling flowering poinsettia's at Thanksgiving.....
 
Dr. Who

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SouthCross said:
We'll see. Girl Scout is in the same cabinet. Wednesday marks the 10 week in flower. She's on a 9.5 hour day. No nitrogen and turning the fall colors fast. Every fan leaf has the pretty bronze veins with an overall golden look. Lower trim leaves are brilliant green.

Trics are still bright white/milky. No clear. No Amber yet, either.
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I am a firm believer in the idea that we are slowly breeding out the trichome's ambering at the finish thing....This would be true for many, many new crossings and specifically the uber potent strains.....SO then......I find your post as being very interesting!

I may have to start up a thread on that topic in the advanced section.....look there in the next cpl of days...
 
SouthCross

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Ive been wondering about it. I enjoy the Gas lantern schedule. Just for the vibe coming off the plants and the growth. I'm trying to fix something that isn't broke.
 
SouthCross

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Dr. Who said:
I am a firm believer in the idea that we are slowly breeding out the trichome's ambering at the finish thing....This would be true for many, many new crossings and specifically the uber potent strains.....SO then......I find your post as being very interesting!

I may have to start up a thread on that topic in the advanced section.....look there in the next cpl of days...
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My thoughts...


The bubblegum started growing bananas in the late late ripen window. She was past her prime and went primal to survive. The trics stayed milk but the rest of the plant was done. There was no green hairs. They were all darker orange and bronze. I watched it with a 60x loupe. No Amber. Diminished every two weeks down to 10.
 
Dr. Who

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SouthCross said:
My thoughts...


The bubblegum started growing bananas in the late late ripen window. She was past her prime and went primal to survive. The trics stayed milk but the rest of the plant was done. There was no green hairs. They were all darker orange and bronze. I watched it with a 60x loupe. No Amber. Diminished every two weeks down to 10.
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91 chem - "3rd" harvest of a progressive harvest, done in the last 3 hrs.

I like running leafy, busy and dense plants long. I'll harvest in the progressive fashion.....These were 4.5 ft tall and this was the 3rd harvest. Take the mains as ripe. Then progress down and harvest as the lowers become ripe....I'll have one more harvest in about 3-4 days....
Ive really gone away from relying on trich's for much more then - "time to pay attention."

No loss of trich's - Not much ambering at any harvest level but, there is some. Color is being expressed by K.....that is a factor of the progressive harvest....different buds - @cindysid - you might like this, and the info too.
 

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tstick

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The ripening on the phenotype I grew under GLT and DLS was that it just kept throwing out new "tufts" of white hairs on otherwise-already-ripe buds. I went a full ten weeks and it just kept throwing out new tufts. The trichomes stayed mostly clear-to-milky and I felt like I was detecting less and less smell to the plant the longer I let it go. But, like I said...Maybe it was just a weird phenotype. It was a TGA Subcool strain and I've had mixed results from some of his stuff, so....
 
tstick

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The other "funny" thing was that when I break up the buds, I get hundreds of tiny "proto-seeds" for lack of a better term. They appear to be the very earliest beginning of a seed formation inside each calyx...hardly even noticeable they are so small...but they are there and I thought it might be due to some strange photo-morphological effect caused by the altered lighting schedule....but now I'm thinking it was just the genetics. I wish I had had the experience of turning out some killer results like you guys are reporting from using the techniques because if that was the case, then I wouldn't hesitate to use the techniques again. The plants grew healthy and the yield was decent. Potency and terpene content were lacking.
 
SouthCross

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I ran a seeded plant under the same schedule. Milky trics, no amber with at least a 95% full maturity of the seeds. I picked through the bud with tweezers. Then broke up and searched again. No lie. I found three blonde seeds out 5 1/2 grams of viable, dark striped, seeds produced.
 
Budley Doright

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Dr. Who said:
It works well. It's an old greenhouse vegging trick. Still used today on Christmas plants...and

Give it a try! RM3 does it religiously....
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I have, way before RM3 started talking about it here actually. I read about poinsettia growers doing it, and on message boards. I didn't have much success and found the buds smaller but only did one grow. I copied you as you said you were going to try is all. Just wondering if you had.
 
BobCajun

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torontoke said:
How would those save power?
Isn't it the same number of lights on hours just broken up differently?
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Because they add up to 12 hours light per day, instead of 13 with gas light routine.

On flowering cycle, I start at 13 hours for the first 5 weeks then 12 up to the last 3-4 days and then I go down to 10. I don't want to use any fewer hours than necessary because it may reduce yield and/or potency. I did find that four 14 hour nights seemed to aid ripening last time though so I'll keep doing that. I also cut out the reptile lights, because I really think it reduced potency. I gave it to them for the last 1-3 days for the entire light period. Maybe 15 minute bursts would work better but I'm just dropping it completely for now. Waste of money there.
 
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BobCajun said:
Because they add up to 12 hours light per day, instead of 13 with gas light routine.

On flowering cycle, I start at 13 hours for the first 5 weeks then 12 up to the last 3-4 days and then I go down to 10. I don't want to use any fewer hours than necessary because it may reduce yield and/or potency. I did find that four 14 hour nights seemed to aid ripening last time though so I'll keep doing that. I also cut out the reptile lights, because I really think it reduced potency. I gave it to them for the last 1-3 days for the entire light period. Maybe 15 minute bursts would work better but I'm just dropping it completely for now. Waste of money there.
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I must have misread it then
That's another new one
Haven't heard of that cycle.
 
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higher self

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Good stuff fellas glad I bumped this thread. I mostly run sativas so 11/13 is the standard for me when flowering. Haha was too lazy/forgetful to try the diminished light thing, maybe this run I will as I've got some strains that are at least 13 wks finishers.
 
BobCajun

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If anyone likes long main colas then 13/11 for the first several weeks delivers. You gotta reduce to 12/12 to get them to fatten up properly though.
 
Dr. Who

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Budley Doright said:
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I have, way before RM3 started talking about it here actually. I read about poinsettia growers doing it, and on message boards. I didn't have much success and found the buds smaller but only did one grow. I copied you as you said you were going to try is all. Just wondering if you had.
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Yeah, I did the reduced bloom time thing. Torontoke and I found about the exact same results..
As far as GLR goes. The way I run and the placement of the vegging plants, along with the lighting used....I wouldn't save any significant amount - so I don't do it. Not to mention I winter some pepper plants in there and have a perpetual harvest going with them at 18/6 and proper feeding.....Gotta have my fresh organic peppers!
 
Dr. Who

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higher self said:
Good stuff fellas glad I bumped this thread. I mostly run sativas so 11/13 is the standard for me when flowering. Haha was too lazy/forgetful to try the diminished light thing, maybe this run I will as I've got some strains that are at least 13 wks finishers.
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Start your long running Sativa's at 12/12 and run that for 8-10 weeks. (depending of how long the plant runs)
Start reducing the lights on time by 15 min a week.
Run till you're down to 9 hrs of light.

I do this for a Vietnamese black strain that runs 18 weeks. Real slow to finish strain! Just like lowland Thai's and Laotion's (along with other equatorial sativa's) this trick made it have a nice solid finish....Otherwise the dam thing could sit as long as 20+ weeks and not really have a stable finish..
 
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higher self

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Dr. Who said:
Start your long running Sativa's at 12/12 and run that for 8-10 weeks. (depending of how long the plant runs)
Start reducing the lights on time by 15 min a week.
Run till you're down to 9 hrs of light.

I do this for a Vietnamese black strain that runs 18 weeks. Real slow to finish strain! Just like lowland Thai's and Laotion's (along with other equatorial sativa's) this trick made it have a nice solid finish....Otherwise the dam thing could sit as long as 20+ weeks and not really have a stable finish..
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Ok cool will most defiantly try that. The strain I'm running is zamaldelica (Thai x Malawi x Zamal) ran her before but this is a seed run so not sure which pheno's I'll end up with. Got a few other 10wk sativas in the mix so after about 8 weeks I'll start light diminishing. Thanks @Dr. Who
 
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