Gas Lantern Routine

Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Dynamo626 said:
Wow 8.5 is not much. Wouldnt do that. The most dark i would give them is 9 hours and that is only the last week. I didnt see whare someone said that. 12 the first 2 weeks less half hour every week after. Adjust if you have a flower that takes longer than 8 weeks.
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Yeah - Joe P was doing 6 hr bloom times and claimed no real loss.....he's full of it!

I and another member - Torantocoat did low light time bloom experiments.....We found almost exactly the same results...

On L o n g running sativa's (landrace's) I'll begin a reduction in lighting at 8 weeks or a week or so longer (I never bloom at more then 11/13 - 12/12 is actually unnatural)...They get down to around 9 and they finish well. Keep them at that long lighting time and they tend to drag on and on in a slow, protracted finish....
 
TheChemist77

TheChemist77

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if ive been using the 18/6 and 12/12 for years,, switching my plants in veg to the glr wont it stress out my plants?? can it be used on seedlings and clones? i only have 1 veg room, so 1 timer,,im worried that ill stress out my mothers or lose clones,,,maybe cause my seedlings to be inclined to be male???
but im all for saving money on electric,,just scared ill fuck up my perpetual cycle,,just 1 problem and im starting over,,losing time or strain that ive popped hundreds of seeds to find
 
BobCajun

BobCajun

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To save even more power, you only need the light to be on for 5 minutes, not an hour. The long night interruptions like 1-4 hours are used for causing long day plants to flower. To prevent short day plants from flowering you only need 5 minutes in the middle of the dark period. When they used gas lights it was before that was discovered.
 
torontoke

torontoke

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BobCajun said:
To save even more power, you only need the light to be on for 5 minutes, not an hour. The long night interruptions like 1-4 hours are used for causing long day plants to flower. To prevent short day plants from flowering you only need 5 minutes in the middle of the dark period. When they used gas lights it was before that was discovered.
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I realize I'm your least favourite person to talk to but have you tried this or is it just a theory?
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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i've recently been trying a 9/3 schedule, and the plants seem to be liking it.
i was on an 18/6 schedule, and they would sag badly after about hour 14, and it really seemed like wasted effort at that point.
anyone else tried 9/3? or 8/4 even?
 
torontoke

torontoke

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i've recently been trying a 9/3 schedule, and the plants seem to be liking it.
i was on an 18/6 schedule, and they would sag badly after about hour 14, and it really seemed like wasted effort at that point.
anyone else tried 9/3? or 8/4 even?
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I've tried 6/2,6/2,6/2 and it seemed to work fine. Ended up switching back to glr tho.
I prefer the shorter node spacing and have adjusted to the early pre flower
 
SouthCross

SouthCross

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I have question. I use the GLS. I get the hormone thing with the hour break up in the middle of the 5.5.

The question is why is the 13th hour in the middle? Wouldn't a straight day of 13.5 be the same thing?
 
torontoke

torontoke

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SouthCross said:
I have question. I use the GLS. I get the hormone thing with the hour break up in the middle of the 5.5.

The question is why is the 13th hour in the middle? Wouldn't a straight day of 13.5 be the same thing?
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The hour in the middle of the dark period is what keeps the plant from flowering.
A 12plus hour dark period will send your plants into flower
 
SouthCross

SouthCross

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torontoke said:
The hour in the middle of the dark period is what keeps the plant from flowering.
A 12plus hour dark period will send your plants into flower
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Not flower. Veg.

13-13.5 hrs for veg. Verses the 5.5-1-5.5. Why is the 13th hour used in the middle and not at the end of the schedule?
 
SouthCross

SouthCross

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torontoke said:
The difference between veg and flower is that hour in the middle.
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I'm tracking on that. It interrupts the flowering hormones and keeps the plant in veg. We know cannabis flowers below the 12hour point. Then why does the GLS insert an hour in the middle of sleep verses just using a straight 13 to 13.5 hour day? No interruption of the night light cycle.

Instead of using 5.5-1-5.5 cycle. You use a solid 13.5 hour day to keep her out of flower.

13 hours veg. 11.45 hrs in the flip to flower.
 
BobCajun

BobCajun

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SouthCross said:
I'm tracking on that. It interrupts the flowering hormones and keeps the plant in veg. We know cannabis flowers below the 12hour point. Then why does the GLS insert an hour in the middle of sleep verses just using a straight 13 to 13.5 hour day? No interruption of the night light cycle.

Instead of using 5.5-1-5.5 cycle. You use a solid 13.5 hour day to keep her out of flower.

13 hours veg. 11.45 hrs in the flip to flower.
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Some strains flower even with 14 hour days though. In fact they'll flower with anything up to 19 hours, just at progressively slower rates. Now if you were to use a repeating 3/3, 4/4 or 6/6 cycle you'd save power and never go into flower, and also avoid midday depression or light saturation effects.
 
torontoke

torontoke

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Some strains will flower at 14/10
10 hours of dark seems to be Where the flowering hormones take over.
So breaking those up keeps the plant vegging.
I'm not a scientist so I'm only speaking from experience first hand.
 
torontoke

torontoke

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BobCajun said:
Some strains flower even with 14 hour days though. In fact they'll flower with anything up to 19 hours, just at progressively slower rates. Now if you were to use a repeating 3/3, 4/4 or 6/6 cycle you'd save power and never go into flower, and also avoid midday depression or light saturation effects.
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How would those save power?
Isn't it the same number of lights on hours just broken up differently?
 
tstick

tstick

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I'm not 100% sure, but I think that using DLS in flower will (may have) some photo morphological effect on the production of terpenes and/or other chemicals produced by the plant. I observed slow-to-ripen aspects on a strain that was supposed to be a fast finisher....but I haven't used the DLS enough to draw any solid conclusions -more like suspicions.

I think the GLT works well for vegging, but I'm not sure about the DLS for flowering.
 
SouthCross

SouthCross

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The last plants I used the diminished cycle on (bubble). The plants took on all the indicators of being ripe. Hairs folded in, fan leaves began to wrinkle, growth topped out, etc. Trics stayed bright and milky. Not clear in the least. Amber was nowhere to be found. Maybe a few on the sugar leaves. Harvested in the early 9th week.

Tested it on neighbors. It cranked their day. Really stoned. I tried it out and it's definitely a pronounced, powerful head high. Falling into a stout body calm without the sedation.
 
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