Little Help please.

Clutches said:

All four draw around 1300 from the wall sir

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Delps8 said:

The spectrum that you use will tend to influence the "morphology" of the plant vs the amount of light you give a plant will tend to influence how much the plant will grow.

A plant with a lot of "veg" light (blue) will tend to be short and compact with lots of small leaves but if you don't give it much light, it will tend to stretch to get more light and will have fewer leaves that are larger in size.

Trade off #1.

From the pictures you've posted, you're using a very high hang height which will reduce the PPFD that you're getting but it will increase how even the light is spread across the grow area.

Trade off #2

If you refuse to use a meter of some kind measure the amount of light that you're getting on your canopy, that will make it harder to understand how to arrange your lights so the size and, perhaps, quality of your crop will be reduced.

Trade off #3.

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Boatguy said:

how big is your tent?

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Clutches said:

5x5x7 brudda

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Delps8 said:

Understand-that's puts you between the dog and the fire hydrant, eh?

The back of the hand method is a horrible way to attempt to determine heat—that's why we invented thermometers.

Lacking a way to measure the amount of light, the next best step is "recon by fire" by lowering your lights until the plants start to react to the light. If you give a cannabis plant too much light from an LED, the classic reaction is that the leaves will "canoe" ("taco") or they will rotate around the petiole, similar to how a Venetian blind opens and closes. Another reaction is that plants will "pray" by elevating the leaves from their almost horizontal attitude to an acute angle.

While a light meter is handy, it's certainly not required. Growers grew had a lot of good crops of good quality cannabis before…electricity! The advantage of a meter is that it gets you in the ballpark more quickly and, if you're using HID, reduces the chances of the heat that they generate from harming your plants.

Good luck with your grow, amigo.

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Delps8 said:

Understand-that's puts you between the dog and the fire hydrant, eh?

The back of the hand method is a horrible way to attempt to determine heat—that's why we invented thermometers.

Lacking a way to measure the amount of light, the next best step is "recon by fire" by lowering your lights until the plants start to react to the light. If you give a cannabis plant too much light from an LED, the classic reaction is that the leaves will "canoe" ("taco") or they will rotate around the petiole, similar to how a Venetian blind opens and closes. Another reaction is that plants will "pray" by elevating the leaves from their almost horizontal attitude to an acute angle.

While a light meter is handy, it's certainly not required. Growers grew had a lot of good crops of good quality cannabis before…electricity! The advantage of a meter is that it gets you in the ballpark more quickly and, if you're using HID, reduces the chances of the heat that they generate from harming your plants.

Good luck with your grow, amigo.
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Yo good word bro. My add didn’t let me read the whole thing so I went back to see if I enevetably missed something and yeah. So the canoe shaped leaves are not my plant saying me happy huh. I figured that crap! Dang it. Ok so cut one off and hook this bad boy up

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Clutches said:

Give me second gotta dig her out

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Delps8 said:

The spectrum that you use will tend to influence the "morphology" of the plant vs the amount of light you give a plant will tend to influence how much the plant will grow.

A plant with a lot of "veg" light (blue) will tend to be short and compact with lots of small leaves but if you don't give it much light, it will tend to stretch to get more light and will have fewer leaves that are larger in size.

Trade off #1.

From the pictures you've posted, you're using a very high hang height which will reduce the PPFD that you're getting but it will increase how even the light is spread across the grow area.

Trade off #2

If you refuse to use a meter of some kind measure the amount of light that you're getting on your canopy, that will make it harder to understand how to arrange your lights so the size and, perhaps, quality of your crop will be reduced.

Trade off #3.

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Clutches said:

But no joke if you zoom in on the one pic of all the lights up all four and look at the pocket on the wall of the tent you see my little infrared thermometer gun to measure leaf temps. And I turned the two two hundreds off and switched the two three hundreds to full spectrum

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Clutches said:

Much easier stuff to use than this new school

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Delps8 said:

I've only used the "new school" stuff.

I bought a tent kit, too, though I bought it in 2017 when LED's were still blurple.

Delps 8

8 = 8 square feet
ps = SuperPonics
Del = LED

QED

My res is (was) top feed and the top had spots for 12 net pots. 12 is a cruel joke for cannabis. The most I ever grew was four and that was a mess. Hydro + lotsa light = big plants.


A dedicated veg light + lots of light.
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Autoflowers are insane. There are two plants here. Chris is the dominant plant but Mary is hiding in the back left corner.

The top feed is handy but it's another pump in the res that only gets used for the first few days of a grow. Plus, the tuhing can be a PITA. I remove the top feed tubing and then made my own res top.
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Current grow. Two plants—never again.
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"Much easier stuff to use than this new school "
Nah. You'll get lots of good help from the folks here (I've a bit testy today, apologies ) and give it a few years and it will be second nature,

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Delps8 said:

I've only used the "new school" stuff.

I bought a tent kit, too, though I bought it in 2017 when LED's were still blurple.

Delps 8

8 = 8 square feet
ps = SuperPonics
Del = LED

QED

My res is (was) top feed and the top had spots for 12 net pots. 12 is a cruel joke for cannabis. The most I ever grew was four and that was a mess. Hydro + lotsa light = big plants.


A dedicated veg light + lots of light.
View attachment 5451435

Autoflowers are insane. There are two plants here. Chris is the dominant plant but Mary is hiding in the back left corner.

The top feed is handy but it's another pump in the res that only gets used for the first few days of a grow. Plus, the tuhing can be a PITA. I remove the top feed tubing and then made my own res top.
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Current grow. Two plants—never again.
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"Much easier stuff to use than this new school "
Nah. You'll get lots of good help from the folks here (I've a bit testy today, apologies ) and give it a few years and it will be second nature,

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Clutches said:

Whoa. Nice co

Whoa nice colas homie. Gotta tie them things up I see. All good on the attitude bro no offense taken. I am appreciative actually of you and all the people that have responded today. Few years ago I got some help here but I still am figuring things out as I am a slow learner I reckon. And life family among other things slowed my progress and took my time. Life. Sheeehs. But here are a few I harvested

all good brotha. I really appreciate all the good advice you and the other people have given me today I had an account a couple years ago on here and it then as well was a great resource to plunder. But yo no offense taken on attitude brudda I get it. Life. It will get you sometimes. Thanks for the views bro got names huh. And tied the colas up good I see. Very nice bro

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Delps8 said:

Wow, as Crocodile Dundee would say "Buds? These are buds!" Those are huge!

"all good brotha." - thanks.

"Thanks for the views bro got names huh. And tied the colas up good I see. Very nice bro" - I'm going down the phonetic alphabet and using women's names. I'm 68 years old so I'm expecting the clock will run out before I run out of names.

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Delps8 said:

Wow, as Crocodile Dundee would say "Buds? These are buds!" Those are huge!

"all good brotha." - thanks.

"Thanks for the views bro got names huh. And tied the colas up good I see. Very nice bro" - I'm going down the phonetic alphabet and using women's names. I'm 68 years old so I'm expecting the clock will run out before I run out of names.

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Clutches said:

Looooool. Thanks for the info bro.
hey one more question for ya. Is this ok with the lights the two on the outside are off and the two on the inside are 300 a piece from the wall on full spectrum. Do you suppose that is ok sir.

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