Federal Hearings to Reschedule Marijuana (see you there!)

tomcatjones

Active Member
with great news i woke up this morning and told to pack. so i've been rushing around to do so. going to the DC hearings.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/12/court-marijuana-medical-benefits_n_1961843.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

will be helping to escort Miss Elvy Mussika to the hearings as well. one of the Federal IND patient's.

hope to keep you guys updated on who i get to meet and all that. there is supposed to be a white house tour, meeting with Michelle Obama was mentioned. srsly. it's awesome. long road trip though. gotta be in DC by 9:30 tomorrow.

Peace and Love.

LETS GET THIS MEDICINE OFF THE SCHEDULE LIST!
 

treetopmmmp

Active Member
Shitty thing is if they move it to a Schedule II. Schedule II
things are harder to obtain than a bag of herb. LOTS of
restrictions go with ALL scheduled drugs, especially II and III.
Doctors can write "recommendations" now, but not scripts
for marijuana so they do have some protection. If it gets
rescheduled and prescribe-able, good luck getting a fuckin
script. It's often hard for people in pain to get proper relief
because a lot doctors are afraid to prescribe pain killers
(ex:Oxycodone CII, Hydrocodone CIII) thanks to the DEA
sticking their heads up any doctors ass that dares to give
proper relief to patients. Sure there are some crooked docs
that over prescribe for profit, but nationwide, there are a lot
more crooked LEO's than doctors.

If they do reschedule, "legal" home grows could easily be a
thing of the past. Pharma companies aren't going to give up
a penny of potential profits. The black market will thrive as
it always has but good people will still be at risk of being busted
and losing everything.

IMO, the best solution is to UN-schedule, not RE-schedule. Marijuana
should be a STATE issue not federal one. Free country my ass,
these types of issues should be left up to the voters. Let each state
put it on a ballot to legalize or not. Latest polls show that Americans
are sick of the farce we call "The War On Drugs" and over 50% would
vote to legalize marijuana.

I do think the discussion of rescheduling marijuana is good and at least
a few high ups in DC are willing to recognize that marijuana is not the
evil thing that Harry J. Anslinger and many shithead politicians since then
have tricked the general public into believing.

Hopefully if it does get rescheduled to CII or CIII, the states with
medical marijuana laws in place will stick with their laws and kindly
tell the feds to fuck off. Since it's currently Schedule One, its possible
that changing it to CII or CIII won't effect the states that want to
make it/keep it legal for medical and or recreational use.

If it gets rescheduled the pharma industry will be one of our biggest
enemies (I already consider them a huge enemy to our cause), with
the alcohol and tobacco industries nipping at big pharmas heels. Those
industries have limitless resources to influence big brother to pass
laws prohibiting us from LEGALLY:) producing our own medicine.

treetopmmmp
 

Amateur.Grower

Well-Known Member
I just see it as a positive step, certainly not the end of the road. :). But I agree it's gona get dark when big pharma starts sticking their fingers in the pot. Not that they aren't already with Marinol and Sativex. If we can get them to admit that cannabis is not as dangerous as heroine etc, then we are on the right track.
 

TheMan13

Well-Known Member
I definitely worry about the special interest clowns in DC and wonder what has brought the political bozos to the table now. Seventy years ago when these fools came together to establish the prohibition we know today, there was no reality in their considerations. What's changed?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I definitely worry about the special interest clowns in DC and wonder what has brought the political bozos to the table now. Seventy years ago when these fools came together to establish the prohibition we know today, there was no reality in their considerations. What's changed?
Only their names. cn



... Schedule III.
 

pen47Tex

Active Member
with great news i woke up this morning and told to pack. so i've been rushing around to do so. going to the DC hearings.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/12/court-marijuana-medical-benefits_n_1961843.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

will be helping to escort Miss Elvy Mussika to the hearings as well. one of the Federal IND patient's.

hope to keep you guys updated on who i get to meet and all that. there is supposed to be a white house tour, meeting with Michelle Obama was mentioned. srsly. it's awesome. long road trip though. gotta be in DC by 9:30 tomorrow.

Peace and Love.

LETS GET THIS MEDICINE OFF THE SCHEDULE LIST!
Be aware the opposing side is backed by big money interests. The private prisons, pharmacutical, alcohol, timber, petroleum, and organized crime will be throwing a lot of money around to see this thing doesn't happen. Good luck, and stay safe!!
 

Amateur.Grower

Well-Known Member
The last few years there have been more and more politicians that are more open minded about cannabis. It's surprising, but in a good way.

[video=youtube;SY0TQ1uOn3k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY0TQ1uOn3k&feature=related[/video]
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

Well-Known Member
Shitty thing is if they move it to a Schedule II. Schedule II
things are harder to obtain than a bag of herb. LOTS of
restrictions go with ALL scheduled drugs, especially II and III.
Doctors can write "recommendations" now, but not scripts
for marijuana so they do have some protection. If it gets
rescheduled and prescribe-able, good luck getting a fuckin
script. It's often hard for people in pain to get proper relief
because a lot doctors are afraid to prescribe pain killers
(ex:Oxycodone CII, Hydrocodone CIII) thanks to the DEA
sticking their heads up any doctors ass that dares to give
proper relief to patients. Sure there are some crooked docs
that over prescribe for profit, but nationwide, there are a lot
more crooked LEO's than doctors.

If they do reschedule, "legal" home grows could easily be a
thing of the past. Pharma companies aren't going to give up
a penny of potential profits. The black market will thrive as
it always has but good people will still be at risk of being busted
and losing everything.

IMO, the best solution is to UN-schedule, not RE-schedule. Marijuana
should be a STATE issue not federal one. Free country my ass,
these types of issues should be left up to the voters. Let each state
put it on a ballot to legalize or not. Latest polls show that Americans
are sick of the farce we call "The War On Drugs" and over 50% would
vote to legalize marijuana.

I do think the discussion of rescheduling marijuana is good and at least
a few high ups in DC are willing to recognize that marijuana is not the
evil thing that Harry J. Anslinger and many shithead politicians since then
have tricked the general public into believing.

Hopefully if it does get rescheduled to CII or CIII, the states with
medical marijuana laws in place will stick with their laws and kindly
tell the feds to fuck off. Since it's currently Schedule One, its possible
that changing it to CII or CIII won't effect the states that want to
make it/keep it legal for medical and or recreational use.

If it gets rescheduled the pharma industry will be one of our biggest
enemies (I already consider them a huge enemy to our cause), with
the alcohol and tobacco industries nipping at big pharmas heels. Those
industries have limitless resources to influence big brother to pass
laws prohibiting us from LEGALLY:) producing our own medicine.

treetopmmmp
Pretty sure they said 'off the schedule list'. Not re-scheduled.
 

potroastV2

Well-Known Member
I thought Elvy lived on the west coast. I'm so glad that she is being escorted to DC! Thanks for going along tomcat.

Hopefully, we will make a good showing, and the feds will be forced to comply. We have been trying to do this for over a decade, and now the day has come! I'm anxious for some progress for our cause, and this is our best chance.

Ever since Nixon ignored the Schaffer Report in 1970 the federal prohibitionists have had their way, and that has to stop! Millions of lives have been ruined by these unjust laws, and we are the ones to change that.


:mrgreen:
 

treetopmmmp

Active Member
Pretty sure they said 'off the schedule list'. Not re-scheduled.
I WISH that were that case but it's not
gonna happen:( WAY too much money
involved to just magically take it off the
scheduled list overnight. They are trying
to get it re-scheduled on the federal level,
probably to a CII which is the same as
coke and methamphetamine.

I'm not saying its a necessarily a bad thing,
but there is a potential for it to fuck a lot
of patients over. Assholes like our AG could
say that it can be prescribed by doctors so
we need to bust anyone that doesn't have
a script for the CII substance. Good luck to
anyone that thinks they will be able to "legally"
grow their own CII meds.

I'm not going to guess numbers, but if it gets
reclassified as a CII and the states go by the books,
many patients (well over 50%) will not be able to
get a prescription. We'd all have to fit into Bob Harris'
definition of a patient to have safe access.

I am of course speaking of worst case scenarios and
hope they don't occur but people that think its not at
all possible for things to get worse for us if marijuana
gets rescheduled are turning a blind eye.

Here is the article:

[h=1]Court To Review Marijuana's Medical Benefits[/h] Posted: 10/12/2012 2:17 pm EDT Updated: 10/12/2012 5:18 pm EDT


It started with a coalition of disgruntled Americans, then a handful of governors took up the cause last year, and now -- for the first time in nearly 20 years -- a federal court will hear oral arguments in a lawsuit challenging the classification of cannabis as a dangerous drug without medical benefits.
In the case, Americans for Safe Access v. Drug Enforcement Administration, the court will be presented with scientific evidence regarding the medicinal effects of marijuana, and is expected to rule on whether or not the Drug Enforcement Administration acted appropriately in denying a petition to reclassify cannabis, filed by a collection of public interest organizations back in 2002.

"Medical marijuana patients are finally getting their day in court," Joe Elford, chief counsel with ASA, said in a recent statement. "This is a rare opportunity for patients to confront politically motivated decision-making with scientific evidence of marijuana's medical efficacy."
Under federal law, a schedule I prohibited substance is defined as having “a high potential for abuse” and “no currently accepted medical use in treatment.” Heroine and LSD are classified alongside marijuana as schedule I, while cocaine, opium and methamphetamine are classified as schedule II, meaning they have "some accepted medical use."
Other groups, including the American Medical Association, the American Nurses Association and the American Academy of Family Physicians, support medical access to the drug or its reclassification, while the California Medical Association has called for full legalization.

Donald Abrams, chief of hematology-oncology at San Francisco General Hospital, recently described the effectiveness of medical marijuana in the treatment regimens of cancer and HIV/AIDS patients. "I see patients who have loss of appetite, nausea and vomiting from their chemotherapy, pain on and off of opiates, anxiety, depression, and insomnia," he said in a press briefing last week, adding that these are just some of the conditions that can be alleviated by the use of medical marijuana.
In its rejection of the ASA’s rescheduling petition in 2011, the DEA cited a 4-year-old Department of Health and Human Services paper that found no consensus on medical uses for marijuana, but it did not take into account studies showing the medical benefits of marijuana on the grounds the studies did not meet the standard of double-blind FDA approval trials.
"[T]here are no adequate and well-controlled studies proving (marijuana's) efficacy; the drug is not accepted by qualified experts..." wrote DEA administrator Michele Leonhart in a July 8, 2011 letter. "At this time, the known risks of marijuana use have not been shown to be outweighed by specific benefits in well-controlled clinical trials that scientifically evaluate safety and efficacy."
A similar petition calling for marijuana to be reclassified as a schedule II drug was filed with the DEA in 1972, and in 1988, following a federal hearing, Administrative Law Judge Francis Young ruled that marijuana should indeed be reclassified. But that verdict was rejected by then-DEA administrator John Lawn and in 1994, his rejection was upheld by the D.C. Court of Appeals.

The current case will be heard by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit on Oct. 16.






treetopmmmp
 

althor

Well-Known Member
This can very easily be turned into a bad thing.
Hopefully it will be one of the few things the government doesnt screw up.
 

althor

Well-Known Member
The last few years there have been more and more politicians that are more open minded about cannabis. It's surprising, but in a good way.

[video=youtube;SY0TQ1uOn3k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY0TQ1uOn3k&feature=related[/video]

Steve Cohen is one of my favorite people in Washington.
 

bigbillyrocka

Well-Known Member
I think like many others here, marijuana should be legalized much like alcohol bit more along the lines of similarity with brewing your own at home.
What im getting at is this: the dispensaries should be ran by the government and sold from state sanctioned stores (like actual liquor stores operate in many states). They'll have all the strains you can get at dispensaries now and then some.
You can brew beer from home and make up to 200 gallons of wine per year so wirh marijuana in mind, why not say 4 plants per adult, per house, per year? This way everyones happy, the govt is making tons of revenue and the smoker can buy any time he or she likes.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I think like many others here, marijuana should be legalized much like alcohol bit more along the lines of similarity with brewing your own at home.
What im getting at is this: the dispensaries should be ran by the government and sold from state sanctioned stores (like actual liquor stores operate in many states). They'll have all the strains you can get at dispensaries now and then some.
You can brew beer from home and make up to 200 gallons of wine per year so wirh marijuana in mind, why not say 4 plants per adult, per house, per year? This way everyones happy, the govt is making tons of revenue and the smoker can buy any time he or she likes.
It is a sensible plan.


That is why it will fail.
cn
 

TheMan13

Well-Known Member
I do not believe the alcohol lobby will give up any ground on that gov't monopoly, they have already made the investment ;)
 
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