Do Not Talk to the Police

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dutchthreat

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bunghole said:
Interesting situation:

My home alarm went off once while I was at work. By the time I got home, the police had already entered and cleared my entire home.

What if they had found my stash or plants?

Would that be considered illegal search?
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Don't know about the laws around where you live but;

Its not a search at all. Your alarm company no doubt called the police on YOUR behalf. Therefore, you are infact giving them permission to enter the building. Once entering its fair game, all they need is reasonable doubt to do a complete search. Now reasonable doubt is VERY complex, I mean by the letter of the law even the fait smell of pot would give them reasonable doubt. However this could and has worked against the prosecution. Lets say you smoked some pot before you left in the morning and the smell is lingering, you have no stash no plants this would not be reasonable doubt and could in fact be used as illegal search.

Regardless, as for speaking to the police or interacting with them; I find its best to assertive, speak to them in a clear and persice manner. If at any time during your interaction you feel unconfortable, ask if your being detained, if the answer is no all you say is I would like to leave.

Police are ment to be intimidating, fear shows weakness, weakness shows lies.
 
purpdaddy

purpdaddy

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they are also allowed to lie to you to get the truth..like.you get busted with dope and them bitches say you gettin 15 years if you dont snitch and u only got busted with a couple rocks and u a first offender u usually get rehab or probation but them bitches can threaten u with all this time knowing they have statutes and limitations when it comes to sentencing guidlines.
thats how i got caught up.If my fall partner would have kept his mouth shut,and i advise this to everyone.DONT SAY SHIT UNLESS U GOT AN ATTORNEY PRESENT OR U KNOW THE LAW!.My whole term i worked in the law library as inmate counsel for disciplinary Board and it really taught me loopholes around shit that you not gonna know about unless you get the statues/criminal code book for your state.PeAcE
 
xXkillerklownXx

xXkillerklownXx

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I ordered seeds to my house and I was wondering am I gonna be put on some list or something cause I'm all paranoid, I got them and all that, and there wasnt any problems, so am I good or should i be worried?
 
purpdaddy

purpdaddy

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xXkillerklownXx said:
I ordered seeds to my house and I was wondering am I gonna be put on some list or something cause I'm all paranoid, I got them and all that, and there wasnt any problems, so am I good or should i be worried?
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i wouldnt worry bout shit,,i get beans all the time in the mail,,and im waaaay down south USA.
 
purpdaddy

purpdaddy

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DaGambler said:
i read the whole thread up to this point with the intention of adding my two cents... and this guy just did it for me.

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Many of you are already making a huge mistake and giving up rights - by opening your door to begin with! As soon as you open the door that gives the cops the right to claim "i smelled weed when he opened the door"... "i saw paraphenalia on the coffee table" .... etc.

You are under NO OBLIGATION to open your door, answer the phone, etc. You see a cop at your door, WALK AWAY. If they have a warrant to search your home or a warrant for your arrest, they will be coming in irreguardless of you answering the door or not. (EDIT: with a warrant to search they would be coming in, with just a warrant for your arrest, they can't come in unless they have reason to beleive that you are home.) This is also why its a good idea to have a camera (discreetly placed) that lets you know who is knocking on your door to begin with. YOUR Home is YOUR Castle.

REMEMBER: If they are asking you question (or trying to), its because they DON'T have the answers. Don't help them to get those answers !!!

IF you are actually growing weed in your home, then NO ONE should ever be knocking on your door (without you knowing they were coming) to begin with. Same with the phone, if you don't know who is calling you: Don't Answer It! I've owed tens of thousands of dollars for over a dozen years now. You know how many times i've spoken to a bill collector? Not once.
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yea man its called a NO KNOCK WARRANT,well in LA they do that,,hell they do it all the time around here,,,come bustin your house 3:00 in the mornin,,thats fuckin crazy and an easy way to get shot!
 
Phenom420

Phenom420

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dutchthreat said:
Don't know about the laws around where you live but;

Its not a search at all. Your alarm company no doubt called the police on YOUR behalf. Therefore, you are infact giving them permission to enter the building. Once entering its fair game, all they need is reasonable doubt to do a complete search. Now reasonable doubt is VERY complex, I mean by the letter of the law even the fait smell of pot would give them reasonable doubt. However this could and has worked against the prosecution. Lets say you smoked some pot before you left in the morning and the smell is lingering, you have no stash no plants this would not be reasonable doubt and could in fact be used as illegal search.

Regardless, as for speaking to the police or interacting with them; I find its best to assertive, speak to them in a clear and persice manner. If at any time during your interaction you feel unconfortable, ask if your being detained, if the answer is no all you say is I would like to leave.

Police are ment to be intimidating, fear shows weakness, weakness shows lies.
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I love this part "Police are ment to be intimidating, fear shows weakness, weakness shows lies." thank's for sharing!
 
bgmike8

bgmike8

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it is amazingly sad to see how the majority of people cave to the police for no good reason. HEY!!!!! THE POLICE ARENT THAT POWERFUL. im sorry. i didnt even watch the video yet. all you need is this magic phrase. i dont want to speak to you without a lawyer.

it makes me sick. i can watch "cops" tv show and see at least one person who just gave the police their case. fuck the police. fuck anyone who tries to deprive me of liberty when i am not hurting anyone.
 
lurkmaster

lurkmaster

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bgmike8 said:
it is amazingly sad to see how the majority of people cave to the police for no good reason. HEY!!!!! THE POLICE ARENT THAT POWERFUL. im sorry. i didnt even watch the video yet. all you need is this magic phrase. i dont want to speak to you without a lawyer.

it makes me sick. i can watch "cops" tv show and see at least one person who just gave the police their case. fuck the police. fuck anyone who tries to deprive me of liberty when i am not hurting anyone.
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True that man...
 
purpdaddy

purpdaddy

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bgmike8 said:
it is amazingly sad to see how the majority of people cave to the police for no good reason. HEY!!!!! THE POLICE ARENT THAT POWERFUL. im sorry. i didnt even watch the video yet. all you need is this magic phrase. i dont want to speak to you without a lawyer.

it makes me sick. i can watch "cops" tv show and see at least one person who just gave the police their case. fuck the police. fuck anyone who tries to deprive me of liberty when i am not hurting anyone.
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yea i know what you sayin my TV stays on Court TV or investigation discovery...keep you up on the new procedures they got to convict that ass!Keeps you on top of your game..Everything else..just seems useless to me.:blsmoke:
 
IndicaFatnHeavy

IndicaFatnHeavy

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its easy to say dont talk in situations like if they come up to u and just try to talk.. or come to ur house with out a warrant.. or ask u to come in for questioning.

but if they come up to u for an actual reason.. like they see you have a beer in ur hand.. they take it... whether you like it or not.. having alcohol in public even above age.. is enough for them to search u. How do i know this? it happened to me. my lawyer told me everything

i had an oz and a scale on me... they got me for trafficking and having alcohol under the legal limit.

why did i have an oz and a scale on me... i was fucking stupid back then. thats why. never ever ever fucking carry a scale on you. especially when you got dope... if ur dealing. u dont just go out with weed and try to sell to people. build a clintel and they ask u for it. scale it at home. the ngo meet them with it. go meet them some where with it.. just common sense. but yeah

fuck 5-0
 
bgmike8

bgmike8

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lol.

yeah definetly dont let them come to your house or you open it to warrants. meet them somewhere away from your house. in the us. if they can make a good case that you go from your house whenever you sell, then they will get a warrant for it. i have also heard that the federal agents can easily obtain a warrant for your home just because they bust you for selling. fuck the police
 
MickFoster

MickFoster

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The interesting part is that anything you say to the police can and will be held against you, but anything you say to the police that could possibly help you is inadmissable in court because it's hearsay. Bottom line is 'I'd like to excersize my right to remain silent". You don't have to talk to anybody - and shouldn't.
 
Mindmelted

Mindmelted

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Shit i got 2 cops on my dart team.They know i toke and do so during darts.
Not all cops are out to bust the little guy with a joint.
 
MickFoster

MickFoster

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Mindmelted said:
Shit i got 2 cops on my dart team.They know i toke and do so during darts.
Not all cops are out to bust the little guy with a joint.
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I have a friend that is a police officer as well and he knows I smoke and doesn't care - however I doubt that as a law enforcement officer that he would extend the same courtesy to someone on the street if he found a couple of joints on them. You can have a friend that is police officer but police officers are not your friends.
 
bgmike8

bgmike8

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fuck the police. i dont care if they let you smoke in front of them. they signed up to take peoples liberty and money for things that should be constitutionally protected
 
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chalkie

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You only have the right to remain silent if your under arrest tho dont forget that, refusing to assist the police ahead of time is interfering and a felony
 
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