CoolNameHere
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Plants need energy to grow they receive that through there leaves let it be i never take anything of and i always have firm buds
I have proven what I came here to do, to show people what they are missing by following your guidance without doing their own research. If your considering yourself as seasoned growers at RIU then I want no part of it. But I seriously doubt that! RIU could do without you and your kind as stated day after day by many members...so maybe you have it backwards. I would rather be called the Village Troll then what most call you...The Village Idiot!You have no credibility nor honor as it stands now with the long term seasoned growers at RIU. You have earned the reputation as the Village Troll. It's up to you to redeem yourself.
Do a few more hours of reading before pointing the finger. Not only have I backed up my mouth with pictures, side by side studies, and just about everything except going over to their homes(yes...I KNOW)and growing it for them, but others have as well. There is pages and pages of evidence that has been presented time and time again and you know what...if its not how they do things ...its bunkim or not backed, or this or that...Just read my friend and you will see what the real story is. Its a JOKE and so are they. Believe what you want but if you want bias info don't ask UB or his cronies(you will know them!)...that's for sure.If you show the solid research/ proof, then the argument is over. It's that simple guys.
your plants look really bad........ i didnt think it was even dope...........should probably throw em away and start overI am the OP of this thread. I had NO IDEA it was going to take on a life of its own.
So much for getting feedback. You all are too worried about proving each other wrong than to provide any feedback or help whatsosever. I guess I'm unsubscribing to my own thread
I had NO IDEA it was going to take on a life of its own.
And if your to lazy to read, here's one of 100s of pics in the thread. Defoliated on the left, and undefoliated on the right. Clones of the same plant on both sides.
Fair enough. What happened down below to achieve such a canopy of buds? I want some up the skirt shots!
I hope UB won't mind me answering your question. Several times now, I've seen him recommend the following book. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0929349008I'm a new grower and was hoping to find valuable info on this forum. However I've realized its just as easy to be misled as it is to find the real deal. I know some will flame me for saying this but uncle ben is one of the few on here I've seen that base their methods on sound and proven botanical biology. So here's my question for uncle ben...
I know I could search the forums and hope to weed out the nonsense and spend forever finding answers to my relatively simple questions. I don't really want to go through all that. Uncle ben, are there any good books or other sources on botany/cannabis that you would suggest? I have no problem with doing research and putting in leg work but it seems with a subject such as marijuana that is surrounded by all types of hocus pocus it becomes difficult to remember it's still just another plant. So again if you have any resources for me and the rest of the community it'd be awesome. Thanks bro
I just mentioned in another post do it quite often to get Mel Frank's book, "MJ Insider's Growers Guide". Check out my posts. If you are not a gardener and know little to nothing about horticulture, that book is about as solid as it gets plus there are many fascinating graphs and tests done by a the U. of Miss.I'm a new grower and was hoping to find valuable info on this forum. However I've realized its just as easy to be misled as it is to find the real deal. I know some will flame me for saying this but uncle ben is one of the few on here I've seen that base their methods on sound and proven botanical biology. So here's my question for uncle ben...
I know I could search the forums and hope to weed out the nonsense and spend forever finding answers to my relatively simple questions. I don't really want to go through all that. Uncle ben, are there any good books or other sources on botany/cannabis that you would suggest? I have no problem with doing research and putting in leg work but it seems with a subject such as marijuana that is surrounded by all types of hocus pocus it becomes difficult to remember it's still just another plant. So again if you have any resources for me and the rest of the community it'd be awesome. Thanks bro
These plants in the picture below were grown using this defoliation technique. Show me yours again UB where you didn't defoliate, I cant seem to find them anywhere.I am so tired of people that don't have a clue to what defoliation actually is and how it works. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=174163. Thread started by a 30 year expert, it's full of pictures and totally documented facts on the process.
Then you're not looking hard enough. Best bet is to go fetch and while you're at it pick up a book on indoor horticulture. Oh I forgot, you've only been here since last month, and talk like you've seen my hundreds of photos and thousands of posts from a dozen websites for the last 15 years.These plants in the picture below were grown using this defoliation technique. Show me yours again UB where you didn't defoliate, I cant seem to find them anywhere.
Dr. Fever said:Originally Posted by DrFever View Post
enlighten i took this last post from the link you provided hahahaha
i know i am year late. but i been up on the defol. thread since it started.
to this day, all the "here's you proof shot's" go like this.
one poster who is not convinced of this technique (any poster not specific) wants to see a finished bud shot of a defoliated plant.
the defoliater guy says "wait till i find the cam" or something to that effect, but they build up the ensuing post like "wait till you see this"
it gets posted.
it looks like shit, more flarfy that ever, or at very best the same or worse
then this happens "well i let these one get away from me" or "they yielded the same" or "my temps" or "something happened out of my control"
so every proof shot has an excuse attached, and we should take this excuse and see past the fuckery and except it as a good yield tech. because all the other times you grew like this were great, but defoliar's failed to capture the result that they liked on cam. but the only result they have is one they make excuses for.
sounds like some straight ol' sucker shit.
pruning lower leaves off and lower budsites, isnt that something called "pruning for single stem plants" like something that has been done since SoG grow methods have been around?
i mean lollipopping, or pruning? wtf, to call it a new method, bananas
what it comes down to is pruning for yield, something all gardeners of all plants have been doing since plants and people intermingled.
grow em short, keep em full, grow em high, keep them tidy, nothing new here.
i mean every grow book tells you plants have a threshold for bud production, if you focus the plants energy to the main lighted areas the resulting bud will be tighter and denser, but this is just plucking off lower branches budsites
pluck off the lower budsites and leave the leafs, thats way more surface area of leaf gets more lumens/micro moles whatever, and they in turn make more food and sugar for the plant. again nothing new here.
no way any one who been around this plant a long time will take defoliation seriously after this. and when i say defoliation, im not talking about the decades old pruning tech. i described above, when i say defoliate, i mean the absolute raping of a plants energy factories, no leaves but bud leaves.
streme defoliation = diminished plant health and yields
there i summed it up for the original posters of both threads