Dealing With Customs

Dr Kynes said:
designer analogs of various substances (the OP's is Designer Benzedrine)

i for one dont care much for pills, and havent used em since the 80's, but the drugs in question aint illegal, and thus are legal.

but back in the late 80's i went to a lot of parties in LA featuring "fruit salad" and i dont even remember what happened next.

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Theirs something called the analog act. ---The Federal Analogue Act, 21 U.S.C. § 813, is a section of the United States Controlled Substances Act passed in 1986 which allowed any chemical "substantially similar" to a controlled substance listed in Schedule I or II to be treated as if it were also listed in those schedules, but only if intended for human consumption. These similar substances are often called designer drugs.

Which gives them a wide interpetion of the law

+ dealing with customs which plays by a whole different set of 'laws'

They can reject shipments just becouse they have a limp d**k for the sender
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cms_ia/importalert_1137.html --- 100's of such lists
 
schuylaar said:
nice liberty!

+rep

:clap:

EDIT: this is how kratom gets through..most reputable for that IMO:

http://phytoextractum.com/

i like the "gold standard extract"..plus they give a straight up 20% off anything on monday orders..orders over $100 are fedexed overnight by 10:30AM!..can't beat it! these guys are the real deal!
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Im not into extracts but for plain leaf BUYKRATOM.US , 1KG , FOR 108 with free shipping (with code), all the leaf is good at worst
 
LIBERTYCHICKEN said:
Theirs something called the analog act. ---The Federal Analogue Act, 21 U.S.C. § 813, is a section of the United States Controlled Substances Act passed in 1986 which allowed any chemical "substantially similar" to a controlled substance listed in Schedule I or II to be treated as if it were also listed in those schedules, but only if intended for human consumption. These similar substances are often called designer drugs.

Which gives them a wide interpetion of the law

+ dealing with customs which plays by a whole different set of 'laws'

They can reject shipments just becouse they have a limp d**k for the sender
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cms_ia/importalert_1137.html --- 100's of such lists
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but the drug in question is an analog for benzodiazepine, a schedule 4 drug, so the law you cite doesnt apply.

thats why they havent come to his door to arrest him, but instead they jacked his TOTALLY LEGAL shit, and sent him a politely worded Fuck You letter informing him that they was takin his shit Because They Said So.

federal lawer infursimint offisurs dont give a squirt of piss about the law, they just do as they please and smile while they fuck you, knowing that your only recourse is to sue the federal government

if the OP makes too big a stink about his rights, they may decide to pop by for a visit armed with a totally legitimate, not at all based on lies and bullshit search warrant, and see ig they can find a roach lost in his couch cushions.

then OP will be charged as a Drugs Kingpin.

didnt ya know? OP runs a massive narcotics distribution organization, one totally legal pill at a time, racking up dozens of dollars in illicit profits.


Think Of The Children!!
 
Dr Kynes said:
designer analogs of various substances (the OP's is Designer Benzedrine)

i for one dont care much for pills, and havent used em since the 80's, but the drugs in question aint illegal, and thus are legal.

but back in the late 80's i went to a lot of parties in LA featuring "fruit salad" and i dont even remember what happened next.

Pills-in-pile.jpg


Good Times
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Did you wake up the next morning with your underwear on backwards?
 
Dr Kynes said:
but the drug in question is an analog for benzodiazepine, a schedule 4 drug, so the law you cite doesnt apply.

thats why they havent come to his door to arrest him, but instead they jacked his TOTALLY LEGAL shit, and sent him a politely worded Fuck You letter informing him that they was takin his shit Because They Said So.

federal lawer infursimint offisurs dont give a squirt of piss about the law, they just do as they please and smile while they fuck you, knowing that your only recourse is to sue the federal government

if the OP makes too big a stink about his rights, they may decide to pop by for a visit armed with a totally legitimate, not at all based on lies and bullshit search warrant, and see ig they can find a roach lost in his couch cushions.

then OP will be charged as a Drugs Kingpin.

didnt ya know? OP runs a massive narcotics distribution organization, one totally legal pill at a time, racking up dozens of dollars in illicit profits.


Think Of The Children!!
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god damn right!..with intent to distribute (they were packed nice and neatly ready to go)
 
Dr Kynes said:
but the drug in question is an analog for benzodiazepine, a schedule 4 drug, so the law you cite doesnt apply.

thats why they havent come to his door to arrest him, but instead they jacked his TOTALLY LEGAL shit, and sent him a politely worded Fuck You letter informing him that they was takin his shit Because They Said So.

federal lawer infursimint offisurs dont give a squirt of piss about the law, they just do as they please and smile while they fuck you, knowing that your only recourse is to sue the federal government

if the OP makes too big a stink about his rights, they may decide to pop by for a visit armed with a totally legitimate, not at all based on lies and bullshit search warrant, and see ig they can find a roach lost in his couch cushions.

then OP will be charged as a Drugs Kingpin.

didnt ya know? OP runs a massive narcotics distribution organization, one totally legal pill at a time, racking up dozens of dollars in illicit profits.


Think Of The Children!!
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According to Customs / ICE , anything not approved by the fda/dea is schudle I


"Medications controlled by the Act fall into one of five schedules. Drugs in Schedule I have a high potential for abuse, demonstrate no approved medical use and lack customary safety standards. "

Not that I agree with it
 
schuylaar said:
i checked it out..they are out of samples..which of those do you like and why?

What type of dosage in caps do you use?..it's great to get that amount for the price but i don't want to drop $120 and find i need 30 caps for the dose.
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Currently the only stuff I can vouch for is the green maylay, and mixed bali

my last order was about 3 weeks ago 1 sample pack 1kg White MD, 1/2 Green maylay, 1/2 bali

I was not impressed with the WMD, for a MD it sucked, for a plain leaf it was just good not great but for a buck I can not complain
The Green Maylay, is likely bikhuk's stuff which is always great stuff to me . Cant go wrong their
The bali is good , and usually I dont care for the lower end stuff's

With this vendor you have to keep on top of the batches they buy big and sell out fast . 2 months ago the red MD was top knotch now it is just good plain red type leaf

Kratom connisours/fourms has a long thread on this vendor if your thinking about a buy you should realy check them out

I dont use caps but mix lately around 7g with chocolate milk and drink, every 4 hours . . . . .
 
legit benz straight from India thru US customs and to your door.
As long as you keep it to a 90 day supply they have no choice but to send it on.
 
LIBERTYCHICKEN said:
Importing a unapproved drug is illegal

since it gives doses and is likely pre-pressed pills with labelling for doseage in another country your in the wrong

Next time try lose powder , labbeled not for human consumption

hireing a lawyer for a 100$ loss is insane anyway
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough. There aren't dosage recommendations. It only labels how much of the substance is in each pressed pill, and is labeled as not for human consumption. Still pre-pressed pills, which presents an out for CBP to win in the longrun if I don't put every ounce of effort I have into fighting. But the labels are printed with the purpose of avoiding exactly this. It's pretty much a standard in this business that, if you as a vendor fail to follow, will result in your own failure. Also I never said I was indefinitely hiring a lawyer. I only asked if I should consult one in regards to wording my appeal. Anyways.
Dr Kynes said:
there is no way to estimate how much recovering your property will cost.

you may just have to send them a registered letter, you may have to sue them in federal court, or anything in between.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/302/~/seized-property---status-and-returns

basically they expect you to argue with the "relevant supervisor" and justify your demand for the return of your property to the specific port of entry where they jacked you.

copy the letter, prepare a refutation of their claims about why they seized it then try and figure out which asshole you gotta send it to.
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This sounds like a lot of hassle and a monetary risk I'm not really willing to take to get back a package that isn't mine. I only felt it was my duty to take care of it because I insisted on shipping it to my residence after receiving a few other shipments of the same nature to avoid circumstantial hassles... which may be why this happened in the first place. At any rate I probably won't be pursuing this after all, especially given the implications of fighting it (bringing them to my door, offering my name to the gvmt etc.. It would be nice to have them back since we likely won't see them in the states much in the coming years but it's just not worth it. Appreciate the response and info though.
 
I wish you the best off luck , but your fighting a up-hill battle at best

If i were you I would save time, aggravation, and money and just reorder to another name address
 
oceanbastard said:
Maybe I wasn't clear enough. There aren't dosage recommendations. It only labels how much of the substance is in each pressed pill, and is labeled as not for human consumption. Still pre-pressed pills, which presents an out for CBP to win in the longrun if I don't put every ounce of effort I have into fighting. But the labels are printed with the purpose of avoiding exactly this. It's pretty much a standard in this business that, if you as a vendor fail to follow, will result in your own failure. Also I never said I was indefinitely hiring a lawyer. I only asked if I should consult one in regards to wording my appeal. Anyways.


This sounds like a lot of hassle and a monetary risk I'm not really willing to take to get back a package that isn't mine. I only felt it was my duty to take care of it because I insisted on shipping it to my residence after receiving a few other shipments of the same nature to avoid circumstantial hassles... which may be why this happened in the first place. At any rate I probably won't be pursuing this after all, especially given the implications of fighting it (bringing them to my door, offering my name to the gvmt etc.. It would be nice to have them back since we likely won't see them in the states much in the coming years but it's just not worth it. Appreciate the response and info though.
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Labled not for human consumption but pre pressed into pills
 
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