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Roger A. Shrubber
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i don't give one fuck about the man...but world leaders should feel that they can communicate to each other in confidence, or they won't communicate with each other at all. I'd prefer china not to be aggravated and aggressive. i'd prefer not to have to come up with weapons and aid for Taiwan while we're short from supplying Ukraine. I'd prefer not being forced into a potentially much greater conflict with much worse consequences because someone with a multi-million man army feels slighted...i don't trust that their intelligence agents will be corrupt, i don't take it for granted that their equipment will be poorly maintained, that their men will be poorly trained or equipped...
i guess what i'm trying to say is don't spit in the fucking tigers face, unless you're ready to ride the fucker...
CANON_Grow
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C'mon, are you really trying to say that the Prime Minister of Canada should not have made public that he brought up China's interference in Canada? Or that it was brought up about China setting up illegal police stations in Canada, that is all over the news? Should Canada just accept everything that China wants, just so Xi doesn't feel slighted? Relations with China have been strained since Canada made that arrest(thanks for that), and now Canada has the nerve to let the Canadian public know that the illegal police stations and election interference was brought up in conversation between the two leaders. You're right, that is absurd and I am stunned the Canadian Government would even think about letting the public know it was brought up, let alone do it.
Maybe Canada should allow Huawei to construct their 5G network across Canada so Xi doesn't feel slighted and attack Taiwan. In fact, maybe we should assist the illegal Chinese police in Canada to enforce their laws here. Fuck, even better would be having two R.C.M.P's, a Canadian division and Chinese division. On second thought, Xi might feel slighted that there would be a Canadian division, so just one R.C.M.P. - for Taiwan's sake.
Roger A. Shrubber
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why does everyone make some leap that my saying trudeau shouldn't have allowed that private communication to leak means that i think he should bend over and let Xi fuck him in the ass? i don't recall saying that...what i recall saying is that world leaders should be able to communicate with each other with a reasonable amount of privacy, in order to facilitate good relations, and that i thought any one leader breaking that thin trust was just making it more difficult for all foreign policy to be smoothly implemented...everyone else said things along the lines of fuck china, fuck Xi, trudeau should have bitch slapped him....all, i'm sure, excellent ambassadorial advice...apparently civility only works one way.
DIY-HP-LED
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Ok he ran out, kicked Xi in the balls then ran back behind Joe and stuck his tongue out!
Budley Doright
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My buddy “the great white hunter” shot one last year and it, 20lbs of flying death, slammed into his face. He lost three teeth, suffered a concussion of which caused him 2 months of symptoms, and off work. So ya they are evil things. They drop so much shit on my lawn that it’s like walking on glare ice, then get mad when you try to kick them off. They do taste good though
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CunningCanuk
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The relationship between the Canadian and Chinese government became strained mainly because Canada honoured its extradition treaty with the U.S. Because of that, the Chinese government held three Canadians hostage.
Watching Americans rebuke Trudeau for calling out an authoritarian who meddles in our elections when not committing genocide, baffles the shit out of me.
DIY-HP-LED
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China is operating "police stations" in America and Canada, they were mentioned in the US homeland security hearing recently, Justin brought that up too. The parts that dealt with Russia and China's position in central Asia after their defeat, were not mentioned by Joe or Justin, if he was party to them, but they were discussed as was Tawain and warnings issued. Attacking Tawain would not mean war with just America, but with a lot more countries too, including Canada, we are utterly dependent on them for chip technology.
printer
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I think it was wrong to leak one on one meetings without the other leader's ok. If the leaders can not speak candidly then there is no reason for the meetings. Now if there was enough reason to have to tell the public what was talked about and there was a reason to poison the relationship, then the right time to leak the information then the press conference would be the right place to do it.
DIY-HP-LED
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Everybody learned the lesson of dependency on dictatorships in a global trade situation with Russia and Europe's energy supply. They use it as leverage to intimidate other countries and cover their aggression, China has done the same thing with countries that are critical of it and is operating outside the rules and norms. Xi has mental problems, his grab for lifetime power and suppression of minorities illustrates this apparently, they are going after the cantonize now, trying to enforce cultural uniformity.
cannabineer
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Place I worked for a while had a squad-level detachment that called the small but pretty (and centrally located) artificial lake home. In the spring there would be goslings. People learned quickly to give the hissing fowl a wide berth, and the smart people always had a bird-free escape route/plan in the front of their minds when transiting campus.My buddy “the great white hunter” shot one last year and it, 20lbs of flying death, slammed into his face. He lost three teeth, suffered a concussion of which caused him 2 months of symptoms, and off work. So ya they are evil things. They drop so much shit on my lawn that it’s like walking on glare ice, then get mad when you try to kick them off. They do taste good though
Their evil doubled when there were downy gray miniature death chickens afoot.
Roger A. Shrubber
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yeah, that's pretty much exactly what he did...to a standing ovation...¿Ok he ran out, kicked Xi in the balls then ran back behind Joe and stuck his tongue out!
Roger A. Shrubber
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thank you very much...no idea why that's so hard to grasp for some.
CunningCanuk
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Throughout history, appeasing tyrants has always made the situation worse. I have no idea why that’s so hard to grasp for some.
The Chinese government, that is to say Xi, is meddling in our election process. To a democratic country that is an act of war. All bets are off and all is fair. Xi thought he was going to be smart and snub Trudeau and not have to deal with it but it didn’t work out for him. Too fucking bad.
I’m not a fan of Trudeau but I liked the way he handled this. Fuck China, fuck Xi and fuck anyone who has a problem with that.
printer
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Does any of this relate to what I wrote?
printer
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It is not a question of appeasement. It is called diplomacy. If you want to complain about a problem in public that is ok. You can rip they leader another asshole in private. You can do so in public after the meeting. But leaking the meeting conversation says you are not trustworthy and there is no reason to have these one on one meetings. It is not like Xi is going away or that China is insignificant like North Korea.
Roger A. Shrubber
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respecting personal privacy isn't appeasement...especially between world leaders...they have these meetings so they don't have to have armed meetings across borders. if they stop having these meetings, you get these meetings
CunningCanuk
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There is no proof that Trudeau leaked anything. Just because Xi says so doesn’t make it so. We have a free press in Canada and I like it that way.
I’m referring to how he handled the public confrontation that was initiated by Xi, the great diplomat.
CunningCanuk
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I don’t buy the assertion anything was intentionally leaked.
printer
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So you are saying Xi leaked to the Canadian media?
And in terms of how Trudeau managed the press relief afterwards, he did fine.