Bubblelicious, New York Power Diesel, and Super Skunk in DWC
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Will do buddy, although it's not that much new stuff - just a couple of modifications to the flowering tent and the veg tent getting overrun, mainly by the super skunk.
The update from a few days ago (#30
is the one with the most "goodness", IMHO.Seems as though the temps in the tent run about 12 degrees over the ambient room temp with just the fan cooling the light, which I can definitely work with (those temps are about 8" directly under the light, so can even take 3 or 4 degrees off that for what they'll be at the plant canopy).
With the exhaust/intake fans running they're about six degrees over ambient temp.
All quite acceptable to me.
Just one little issue that I'm having now, and that's with my CO2 - I'm guessing that the loud hissing sound that I hear is not too good, and probably indicates that my regulator is not on there tight enough.
The PPM went from 400 before I turned it on to "1250" then to "2475" and then to "CO2 Too High" within a matter of about four seconds.
Anyways, gonna go detach the regulator/solenoid/whatever the fuck it's called from the tank and then re-tighten it with the tool that you use to tighten things (not pliers, the other thing).
Anyways, just wanted to give you guys a heads up that if you never hear from me again that I died from CO2 inhalation and that you're all welcome to sue Titan on my behalf.
With the exhaust/intake fans running they're about six degrees over ambient temp.
All quite acceptable to me.
Just one little issue that I'm having now, and that's with my CO2 - I'm guessing that the loud hissing sound that I hear is not too good, and probably indicates that my regulator is not on there tight enough.
The PPM went from 400 before I turned it on to "1250" then to "2475" and then to "CO2 Too High" within a matter of about four seconds.
Anyways, gonna go detach the regulator/solenoid/whatever the fuck it's called from the tank and then re-tighten it with the tool that you use to tighten things (not pliers, the other thing).
Anyways, just wanted to give you guys a heads up that if you never hear from me again that I died from CO2 inhalation and that you're all welcome to sue Titan on my behalf.
Twils
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How are you cooling it besides air cooled lights? I have a tent of similiar size and am having heat problems. Is your portable A/C hooked up inside the the tent?
Which tent are you talking about?
Not having temp problems in either right now, and also have not purchased my portable AC yet.
Yeah, got that, just wasn't sure which tent he was referring to.
I have different ventilation setups for each - the veg tent has a 6" fan which is responsible for aircooling the light and also for exhaust from the tent, with a 4" for intake.
The flowering tent has a 6" dedicated to cooling the light, and another 6" hooked up to a filter for exhaust and then a 4" for intake.
The temps in the veg tent run about 3 or 4 degrees over ambient room temp with the fans going, and the flowering tent runs about 12 degrees over ambient with just the light being cooled and about 6 degrees over ambient with all three fans working.
BTW, found the USB cord (my girl did, anyways), so I'll have a pic update in a bit.
The title says it all; kinda in a holding period - gonna start the clones vegging in the flower tent as soon as the RO filter gets here (cancelled the order with the site it was ordered from by my hydro store because they didn't have it in stock and I just went ahead and ordered one off of Ebay - figure a filter isn't gonna have the feds knocking down my door).
Hoping within two or three days to have them in there, veg for a few days (really have no idea how quick they're gonna grow vegging under a 1000 24/7 while also getting blasted with 1300PPM nutes and 1500PPM CO2, but I'm guessing "fast").
Then when they almost catchup to the seedlings, gonna top them all at about 6 or 8 inches, tie the two colas to bamboo stakes, veg them for a couple of days, and then flip the switch.
So call it November 15th as the start of 12/12 (best guess as of now, anyways).
So that's kinda the state of the union, now onto some pics.
A couple pics of me testing out the frame I built around the reservir - works like a charm, if I do say so myself. This is a pretty popular size, so if anyone needs the measurements of the framee to make their own, just lemme know and I'll dig them up.
These are pics from Monday of the veg tent - growth is getting to be outta control and the seedlings are definitely cramped with their spacing at three or four to a bucket right now - not ideal, but only another few days or a week and they'll be in the flowering tent with all the room they need.
Also from Monday - you can see that the clones are rooting (some of the sativa ones are coming along quite slowly), and the second pic is of a Bubblelicious rootzone (the weakest of the three strains).
A couple of pics of the tent without the tray in it - as you can see, intake fan, reservoir, heater, and dehumidifier are all "hidden" underneath the tray - seems to be working well so far
Drilled these lids yesterday - the twenty clones were hella cramped in the corner in one bucket, so I decided to change up the setup in the veg tent and get the clones enough space and as close to the light as possible to help them catchup (and also try to retard the growth of the seedlings).
So the first two pics are what the tent looked like before the switch yesterday - see the clones cramped and hidden in the corner? Not good for them catching up, obviously - the third pic is the new setup with the clones being front and center.
While doing the "musical buckets" change, found some issues - every bucket had algae to some degree or another in it, and then the one mama bucket that I changed out had those dead little gnats in it.
Not sure when, but definitely switching up my veg tent to two levels with the top being either an E&F or a drip system for vegging clones (under the 400) and the bottom being mamas and new cuttings under fluoros in an as yet unknown growing system. Kinda had it with DWC - the growth is still fine (outstanding, actually), but it's just too much work with more then one or two plants (IMHO, anyways).
Here's the plumbing from the tray to rez - tightened everything as tight as humanly possible and then used aquarium sealant (which I'm a MASSIVE fan of now, BTW) - NO LEAKS!!
And here's a test "fill" of the tray - it's tilted a little bit towards the front right, but nothing that a little cardboard under the legs won't fix.
So that's about it; as always, comments, questions, and insults are more then welcome.
Hoping within two or three days to have them in there, veg for a few days (really have no idea how quick they're gonna grow vegging under a 1000 24/7 while also getting blasted with 1300PPM nutes and 1500PPM CO2, but I'm guessing "fast").
Then when they almost catchup to the seedlings, gonna top them all at about 6 or 8 inches, tie the two colas to bamboo stakes, veg them for a couple of days, and then flip the switch.
So call it November 15th as the start of 12/12 (best guess as of now, anyways).
So that's kinda the state of the union, now onto some pics.
A couple pics of me testing out the frame I built around the reservir - works like a charm, if I do say so myself. This is a pretty popular size, so if anyone needs the measurements of the framee to make their own, just lemme know and I'll dig them up.
These are pics from Monday of the veg tent - growth is getting to be outta control and the seedlings are definitely cramped with their spacing at three or four to a bucket right now - not ideal, but only another few days or a week and they'll be in the flowering tent with all the room they need.
Also from Monday - you can see that the clones are rooting (some of the sativa ones are coming along quite slowly), and the second pic is of a Bubblelicious rootzone (the weakest of the three strains).
A couple of pics of the tent without the tray in it - as you can see, intake fan, reservoir, heater, and dehumidifier are all "hidden" underneath the tray - seems to be working well so far
Drilled these lids yesterday - the twenty clones were hella cramped in the corner in one bucket, so I decided to change up the setup in the veg tent and get the clones enough space and as close to the light as possible to help them catchup (and also try to retard the growth of the seedlings).
So the first two pics are what the tent looked like before the switch yesterday - see the clones cramped and hidden in the corner? Not good for them catching up, obviously - the third pic is the new setup with the clones being front and center.
While doing the "musical buckets" change, found some issues - every bucket had algae to some degree or another in it, and then the one mama bucket that I changed out had those dead little gnats in it.
Not sure when, but definitely switching up my veg tent to two levels with the top being either an E&F or a drip system for vegging clones (under the 400) and the bottom being mamas and new cuttings under fluoros in an as yet unknown growing system. Kinda had it with DWC - the growth is still fine (outstanding, actually), but it's just too much work with more then one or two plants (IMHO, anyways).
Here's the plumbing from the tray to rez - tightened everything as tight as humanly possible and then used aquarium sealant (which I'm a MASSIVE fan of now, BTW) - NO LEAKS!!
And here's a test "fill" of the tray - it's tilted a little bit towards the front right, but nothing that a little cardboard under the legs won't fix.
So that's about it; as always, comments, questions, and insults are more then welcome.
Thanks for the compliment
However, as far as the clones go, they rooted in 750PPM solution, and yesterday I bumped it up to a 1000PPM - haven't seen any burning of leaves at all (some yellowing of the sativa clones, but that's to be expected with clones, and is not related to nute burn).
Anyhow, I was actually thinking of going higher with the clones, like something in the 1500-1600 range, but was gonna keep it at 1300 to be "safe".
With a reasonable root system, 1000 watts, and CO2 at 1500PPM, I'm pretty sure that 1300PPM is gonna be pretty easy for them.
That being said, I'll obviously monitor their leaf edges closely.
Also, off-topic, was thinking of asking the moderator to move this thread to "growroom design and setup", at which point I'd open up a new thread (an actual "grow journal") for my flowering phase - anyone have thoughts on that?
Integra21
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Cool, if its working for you, keep on going. I know when I get above 1100ppm, my girls start to burn, but thats with a 400w and unknow co2 ppm. But all of that will change in the next month or so, if I can pull it off, trying to upgrade to dual 600w's with a hydrogen running of a sentinel. But only time will tell.
Dual 6's, huh? That's beast-like right thurr kiddo
And what do you mean "hydrogen"? Light?
After a harvest or two, gonna get rid of this 4x4 tent and upgrade to an 8x4 with two 1Ks..........but like you, time will tell
Integra21
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Hydrogen is a propane powered, water cooled co2 generator. Around me it is just easier to exchange a propane tank than to fill my co2 and It's a little cheaper. Price is reasonable to. I am going to try it out with my makshift res chiller I told you about a couple of weeks ago, and if that doesnt work, I'll do drain to waste off of city water. Here's a link to the cheapes place online to buy it and there's also a video at the bottom of the page for it:
http://www.growlightexpress.com/carbon-dioxide-co2-31/hydrogen-water-cooled-co2-generator-lp-113.html
http://www.growlightexpress.com/carbon-dioxide-co2-31/hydrogen-water-cooled-co2-generator-lp-113.html
DND
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That is some crazy shit, you should def. start a thread and let us see that thing working.
Bob: Those clones will be fine @ 1300ppm. I questioned myself for days and feared I would lose my whole grow, but I bit the bullet and I haven't looked back. No burn, deficiencies... Only healthy, hardy fast growing plants. Did you get the RO system yet? They must be walking it you. Lol.
No dice on the RO filter yet, hoping within 2-3 days.
Also DND, glad you stopped by, cuz I gots a question for ya - did you light-proof your rez? I wasn't gonna, but am now figuring I might as well - just curious if you did or not and whether you think it needs it (since we have the exact same one).
Kinda annoyed that there's nothing else to buy for my flowering tent 
, so I'm looking at seeds online right now.
Unless I hear something from someone which sways my mind, going to order these four strains from Nirvana (feminized) tonight:
AK-48
Ice
Master Kush
Wonder Woman
All are indica dominant (short flowering) and heavy yielders, which is really all I'm looking for, as long as they're reasonably potent (I'm sure they all will be).
So, anyone have any thoughts? Good, bad, or otherwise? I'm fairly loyal to Nirvana because I've only ever used them and also been very pleased every time I have, so I'm gonna stay with them.
, so I'm looking at seeds online right now.Unless I hear something from someone which sways my mind, going to order these four strains from Nirvana (feminized) tonight:
AK-48
Ice
Master Kush
Wonder Woman
All are indica dominant (short flowering) and heavy yielders, which is really all I'm looking for, as long as they're reasonably potent (I'm sure they all will be).
So, anyone have any thoughts? Good, bad, or otherwise? I'm fairly loyal to Nirvana because I've only ever used them and also been very pleased every time I have, so I'm gonna stay with them.